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Fed up of dieting...want to start enjoying
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I understand what you are explaining, but would like to point out that it is not a good way to enter food into the MFP data base, because many of us use it and especially newcomers rely heavily on it. They have no idea that your " serving " is actually three servings. It really messes things up.
There comes a point in time where you have to do what's good for you. You can enter your own food to MFP. The accuracy of what you enter is up to you, not somebody else.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
Frankly, I don't care how many people you've talked to who have confirmed eating 1200 calories is safe for you. Obviously those people have no clue what they are talking about and are NOT the people you want to get nutrition advice from. Talk to people who have been successful with weight loss and have kept the weight off, all by eating WAY more than 1200 calories.
Don't be disappointed when you gain all of the weight back plus some due to your desire to lose the weight as fast as possible.
No matter how fast I lose, if I eat at maintenance once I reach my goal I will not gain the wait back. If you don't care how many people have confirmed... are you a doctor? What makes you so much smarter than all these other people? What are your qualifications?0 -
stoogeswoman wrote: »Those of you saying, "It's simple, just do this this this & keep it under 1,000 (or 1200 or whatever) calories" - did you by any chance read the results of the obesity study which was reported today? If you're able to lose weight and keep it off, you are in the minority! For the rest of us, it may be a lifelong struggle just to maintain our current weight. I agree with the OP: eat as healthy as you can, move as much as you can, and enjoy your life!
Its a life long struggle for everyone. Even those people who lose it and keep it off do so because we took the time to find ways we could make it work. I guess perhaps there are some people who have no attachment to food but they are super rare. Almost every person alive has to find ways to say no to their impulses. If you require a certain type of food to "enjoy your life" that is the problem. Enjoying life should not be predicated by how much of a certain item you have. You need to find ways to enjoy situations without food, like smokers need to figure out how to be in certain social situations without smoking. These are the small things we change to make a diet a lifestyle. They are the real difference between the people who make it work long term and the people who make excuses long term.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
Frankly, I don't care how many people you've talked to who have confirmed eating 1200 calories is safe for you. Obviously those people have no clue what they are talking about and are NOT the people you want to get nutrition advice from. Talk to people who have been successful with weight loss and have kept the weight off, all by eating WAY more than 1200 calories.
Don't be disappointed when you gain all of the weight back plus some due to your desire to lose the weight as fast as possible.
What medical or nutritional degree do you have? 1200 is the RDA minimum for women and is not the default for MFP, but rather the minimum number of safe calories that science shows is acceptable for some women. If you don't agree with MFPs standards, why are you on the website?
I lost 21 lbs at 1200 calories and safely met all my macros and nutrients and am in maintenance with no difficulty.
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »
There comes a point in time where you have to do what's good for you. You can enter your own food to MFP. The accuracy of what you enter is up to you, not somebody else.
As I said earlier, my diary is for me... I have it open mostly for my friends, and because other than people being rude about it I see no reason to have it closed. There really isn't another way for me to log it... I could log each ingredient individually, but that would make my diary very hectic and confusing... and take up way too much of my time.0 -
I like how this thread turned into a critique of @kateyb94 's diet and logging. As a few people have said, "Never change, MFP. Never change."
When someone is eating too few calories and losing weight at a very aggressive rate (based on the amount of weight they have to lose), people are going to say something.0 -
Now, THAT is cool. I never thought of making meatloaf in muffin pans.
Anything that you do in a loaf pan you can do in a muffin pan. The great thing...it is already in serving size and as long as you weigh it when you fill it there is no need to weigh it before eating.
I have done eggs...mini casseroles...meatloaf...just about everything.
There are several sites on the web about muffin tin cooking. You will be amazed at what some cook as muffins.
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As I said earlier, my diary is for me... I have it open mostly for my friends, and because other than people being rude about it I see no reason to have it closed. There really isn't another way for me to log it... I could log each ingredient individually, but that would make my diary very hectic and confusing... and take up way too much of my time.
Which is why I told the other user that it was up to them to make their entries accurate and not depend on yours.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »
I was talking meat only. Here is her recipe
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
208 g of meat is 7.33 ounces. She has 6 servings, so 1.22 ounces of MEAT in each serving.
Kind of like little meatballs....and I LOVE meatballs.0 -
What medical or nutritional degree do you have? 1200 is the RDA minimum for women and is not the default for MFP, but rather the minimum number of safe calories that science shows is acceptable for some women. If you don't agree with MFPs standards, why are you on the website?
I lost 21 lbs at 1200 calories and safely met all my macros and nutrients and am in maintenance with no difficulty.
True this. Also, most of my days are over 1200 anyway, but with exercise I still keep my net under 12000 -
I already addressed this quite a while ago.
Yes, you did...which I saw after my reply. Interesting discussion.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
When someone is eating too few calories and losing weight at a very aggressive rate (based on the amount of weight they have to lose), people are going to say something.
so far, you're the only one who's said anything.0 -
I totally feel the OP. I really dislike having to watch what I eat. I do it because I have to, but it gets really old. "Lifestyle change"?- here is my issue with that. MY lifestyle (if it did not lead to weight gain) would be filled with donuts, cheesecake, and fried chicken. I have learned to eat veggies. I have learned to stop eating when I am no longer hungry (instead of when I am full). I have learned to make "helathy" substitutes for my favorite foods-- they do not taste as good as the real thing (EVER), but they at least keep the scale from moving up. I have learned to put off eating by drinking hot beverages that feel "filling". But ALL of this takes effort--to me, "lifestyle" implies somehow it becomes easy. As far as I am concerned, it NEVER gets easy- losing weight and keeping it off is a lot of work.
I brush my teeth, floss, take showers and do a few other things to stay healthy and not so much because I really enjoy brushing and flossing my teeth.
The same is true for watching my diet and since I slipped up once also weighing and logging my food. I spent time around extremely obese people and you are right it never gets easy; not for slender nor for obese people....I just prefer doing things for myself and being able to do them, instead of needing help to get out of the bed, to clean up after using the bathroom and needing a wheelchair and an oxygen tank to move between rooms, because walking has become too strenuous. I know that this is extreme, but with those extreme visualisations I have so far lost 65 pounds and in another 35-40 I am within my target range. No one ever said things would be easy and I did not expect it to be. I am doing this because I got tired of feeling miserable.
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True this. Also, most of my days are over 1200 anyway, but with exercise I still keep my net under 1200
*Sigh* It's not even worth it0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
When someone is eating too few calories and losing weight at a very aggressive rate (based on the amount of weight they have to lose), people are going to say something.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
*Sigh* It's not even worth it
What? It's not worth it to tell someone you don't know and have never seen that they are unhealthy and going to be unsuccessful? It's not worth it to pretend that you know what's best for people despite the fact that you have no professional qualifications?0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Don't be disappointed when you gain all of the weight back plus some due to your desire to lose the weight as fast as possible.
There's reason to believe the speed of weight loss does not impact the rate of regain.Summary: Contrary to current dietary recommendations, slow and steady weight loss does not reduce the amount or rate of weight regain compared with losing weight quickly, new research has found.
Science: http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587%2814%2970200-1/abstract
Media: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141015190832.htm0 -
Who's dieting? Not me.I eat everything, but I eat mindfully and its working for me. A caloric intake of 1000 and under is never recommended.0
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What? It's not worth it to tell someone you don't know and have never seen that they are unhealthy and going to be unsuccessful?
Below are some threads you should take a look at. Maybe then you'll realize that netting under 1200 is not healthy and attempting to lose 1.5 lbs a week when you only have 17 lbs to lose is much too aggressive.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819055/setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1318741/in-5-weeks-youll-lose-10lbs-why-is-it-not-working/p1
I'll leave this here as well:
Pound per week goals
75+ lbs set to lose 2 lb range
Between 40 - 75 lbs set to lose 1.5 lb range
Between 25-40 lbs set to lose 1 lb range
Between 15-25 lbs set to lose 1 -.50 lb range
Less than 15 lbs set to lose 0.5 lbs range
As you see, you fall into the 0.50 to 1 lb loss per week range -3 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
Below are some threads you should take a look at. Maybe then you'll realize that netting under 1200 is not healthy and attempting to lose 1.5 lbs a week when you only have 17 lbs to lose is much too aggressive.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819055/setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1318741/in-5-weeks-youll-lose-10lbs-why-is-it-not-working/p1
I'll leave this here as well:
Pound per week goals
75+ lbs set to lose 2 lb range
Between 40 - 75 lbs set to lose 1.5 lb range
Between 25-40 lbs set to lose 1 lb range
Between 15-25 lbs set to lose 1 -.50 lb range
Less than 15 lbs set to lose 0.5 lbs range
As you see, you fall into the 0.50 to 1 lb loss per week range
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your concern. But you can understand my frustration when I have done a significant amount of research about my weight loss and talked to many people about it and you're the first person that has told me that I will be unsuccessful.0 -
Anything that you do in a loaf pan you can do in a muffin pan. The great thing...it is already in serving size and as long as you weigh it when you fill it there is no need to weigh it before eating.
I have done eggs...mini casseroles...meatloaf...just about everything.
There are several sites on the web about muffin tin cooking. You will be amazed at what some cook as muffins.
Wonderful! Thanks for the tip.0 -
I understand what you are explaining, but would like to point out that it is not a good way to enter food into the MFP data base, because many of us use it and especially newcomers rely heavily on it. They have no idea that your " serving " is actually three servings of 3 oz each. It really messes things up.
So what is the best way, in your opinion, to log in recipes? Should @kateyb94 every time log each individual bit of food in her meatloaf? .10 grams of carrot, etc.? Just don't read her log! Just don't!0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »One of the concerns my husband has is whether or not this is sustainable. It's not that I deprive myself; I certainly do enjoy a little bit of cake once in a while. I keep the portions small, count it toward my calories for the day, and make sure I am steady the rest of the day. But his concern is after a point I should be able to "eyeball" food and know how much I need to eat. To him, watching me weigh my food and log every now is a pain in the *kitten* and will eventually make me frustrated.
I understand that response. I also assumed it would be a pain in the rear. I think that is honestly why it took me several years to actually commit to counting and weighing. Weighing seemed rather obsessive (I don't know many other people who weigh their food, unless they are baking). I also hated the idea of having to count calories for the rest of my life. Could I really commit to that? Ultimately, however, I hate being overweight a heck of lot more than I hate the idea of counting calories and weighing my food. And once I actually started doing it, I found it to be far simpler (and less restrictive) than I anticipated.
I won't lie. There are times when I wish I didn't have to count or weigh, that I could just eyeball servings, or indulge in comfort eating (I come from a long line of emotional/comfort eaters). Giving up the (bad) habits of thirty years is hard at times. Still, it is not as hard as I anticipated it would be.
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I only have to cook them for 20 minutes instead of an hour which is awesome!
I intend to use that recipe. It sounds scrumptious.0 -
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
The serving for the crepes is small, IMO, because you are eating it in place of two meals...breakfast and lunch. And then nothing whatsoever to eat until dinner. Great that it works for you; but I would hazard a guess that you are more the exception than the rule. I need breakfast, lunch, and usually a small mid-afternoon snack or I get hangry.
P.S. I'm gonna try your meatloaf recipe. Do you bake it in a meatloaf pan?0 -
AuroraGeorge8393 wrote: »
I intend to use that recipe. It sounds scrumptious.
Just to warn you, it looks like a LOT of onion when you make it, but I promise it's not overly oniony.0 -
Just to warn you, it looks like a LOT of onion when you make it, but I promise it's not overly oniony.
Thanks for the warning, but I love onions. Onion-y recipes are not a problem in this household. 0 -
And you could've easily said something in a PM rather than derail this thread. kateyb94's diet and logging isn't part of it. She mentioned what she ate with the implication that others can eat delicious foods without depriving themselves.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
When someone is eating too few calories and losing weight at a very aggressive rate (based on the amount of weight they have to lose), people are going to say something.
It doesn't matter what anyone posts on here, if they're diary is open to the public people will check and then start saying things. I don't know kateyb94 or you other than what's posted on MFP. I don't care what or how much you eat because I feel people need to find out what works for them.
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The serving for the crepes is small, IMO, because you are eating it in place of two meals...breakfast and lunch. And then nothing whatsoever to eat until dinner. Great that it works for you; but I would hazard a guess that you are more the exception than the rule. I need breakfast, lunch, and usually a small mid-afternoon snack or I get hangry.
P.S. I'm gonna try your meatloaf recipe. Do you bake it in a meatloaf pan?
I usually wouldn't do brunch, but I didn't have to work today so I slept in and didn't eat until around 10:30 and I ate dinner around 3:30 and ate desserts and such later. If you look at my diaries from other days I definitely eat much more than that usually.
I bake the meatloaf in silicone cupcake holders... although you could also do them in muffin tins (350 for 20 minutes), you could also do them in a loaf pan or any other kind you want to do, but I can't tell you how long to do them for (usually around an hour)0
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