The Cleanse
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LOL
It's not semantics
It's not definitions
There is no case to prove
Cleanses and detoxes come from the land of dieting woo...developed by companies who want your money either by selling you a specific product or by your clicking on their site, reading their magazine. They are opiate for the masses (paraphrases)
Believe what you want but it's not a case you can prove, because there is no scientific rationale for cleansing ...just woo
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Okay. I'm starting to think this is a matter of semantics. I must be talking about something else. Maybe "Cleanse" or "Detox" is different for your generation then what I remembered and so I'm referring to something you guys all think is evil..... like how coconut oil was once banned because it was said to cause cancer back in the 80's and now its back and everyone is tooting its benefits? Maybe the term "cleanse" has been hijacked by industrial alternative foods or something. Because I keep saying "it doesnt cost anything" and everyone is screaming "dont waste your money!" so that's basically a big tap on the head for me that I must be confused or something.
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like a broken record. "companies who want your money"? sigh. nevermind. I guess I'll just ask Beyoncé later this week.LOL
It's not semantics
It's not definitions
There is no case to prove
Cleanses and detoxes come from the land of dieting woo...developed by companies who want your money either by selling you a specific product or by your clicking on their site, reading their magazine. They are opiate for the masses (paraphrases)
Believe what you want but it's not a case you can prove, because there is no scientific rationale for cleansing ...just woo
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This quote sums up this thread really nicely...I have had so many conversations or email exchanges with students in the last few years wherein I anger them by indicating that simply saying, "This is my opinion" does not preclude a connected statement from being dead wrong. It still baffles me that some feel those four words somehow give them carte blanche to spout batshit oratory or prose. And it really scares me that some of those students think education that challenges their ideas is equivalent to an attack on their beliefs. -Mick Cullen0
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Okay. I'm starting to think this is a matter of semantics. I must be talking about something else. Maybe "Cleanse" or "Detox" is different for your generation then what I remembered and so I'm referring to something you guys all think is evil..... like how coconut oil was once banned because it was said to cause cancer back in the 80's and now its back and everyone is tooting its benefits? Maybe the term "cleanse" has been hijacked by industrial alternative foods or something. Because I keep saying "it doesnt cost anything" and everyone is screaming "dont waste your money!" so that's basically a big tap on the head for me that I must be confused or something.
Let's play a game: how many times can you legitimately use this in one day?0 -
My favorite cleanse is Ajax, it does a great job on cleaning the bath tub.0
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I did a cleanse. I felt better. I lost weight. I kept it off.
I have a friend. She did a cleanse. She could finally gain weight and stop looking anorexic.
My grandmother did a cleanse. Discovered certain foods that dont agree with her so she takes a vegetable
enzyme now.
My dog got sick. The vet suggested a cleanse. (chicken broth for a day). He felt a lot better.
When was the last time I did a cleanse? I dunno five years ago. Why do you guys even care?! lol
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Possibly the funniest thing i have read all day. How can one product make you both gain or lose weight?
I think the whole DOG needing a CHICKEN BROTH CLEANSE was probably the kicker!!! Just....whaaaaa?! As one poster pointed out, that has to be to settle the stomach right?
But seriously, if OP could explain how a cleanse can both make you lose AND gain weight with no other variables at play, I would LOVE to hear it.0 -
like a broken record. "companies who want your money"? sigh. nevermind. I guess I'll just ask Beyoncé later this week.LOL
It's not semantics
It's not definitions
There is no case to prove
Cleanses and detoxes come from the land of dieting woo...developed by companies who want your money either by selling you a specific product or by your clicking on their site, reading their magazine. They are opiate for the masses (paraphrases)
Believe what you want but it's not a case you can prove, because there is no scientific rationale for cleansing ...just woo
So...you're also ignorant about basic economics0 -
Okay. I'm starting to think this is a matter of semantics. I must be talking about something else. Maybe "Cleanse" or "Detox" is different for your generation then what I remembered and so I'm referring to something you guys all think is evil..... like how coconut oil was once banned because it was said to cause cancer back in the 80's and now its back and everyone is tooting its benefits? Maybe the term "cleanse" has been hijacked by industrial alternative foods or something. Because I keep saying "it doesnt cost anything" and everyone is screaming "dont waste your money!" so that's basically a big tap on the head for me that I must be confused or something.
Let's play a game: how many times can you legitimately use this in one day?
That's my goal for the day.
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brianpperkins wrote: »
aka she is successfully trolling, because people keep engaging her.0 -
OP posts thread asking about benefits of cleanses and how they work.
OP receives responses advising against cleanses with backup and answers to her questions in original post.
OP becomes hostile and then claims everyone in her life including pets have done cleanses.
Responses continue to advise OP against cleanses.
OP claims to be an anthropologist and that suddenly she knows more than everyone ever about cleanses.
OP decides she'll just talk to Beyonce later this week.
Well that's it guys... I'm going to go stick my head in an oven now. It's been real.
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Ok, I haven't actually seen 'haters' in this post, just people giving you advice. Mostly trying to be nice. If you don't want to take our advice, so be it. Have fun spending the next couple of days in the bathroom!0 -
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SconnieCat wrote: »OP posts thread asking about benefits of cleanses and how they work.
OP receives responses advising against cleanses with backup and answers to her questions in original post.
OP becomes hostile and then claims everyone in her life including pets have done cleanses.
Responses continue to advise OP against cleanses.
OP claims to be an anthropologist and that suddenly she knows more than everyone ever about cleanses.
OP decides she'll just talk to Beyonce later this week.
Well that's it guys... I'm going to go stick my head in an oven now. It's been real.
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Just schedule a colonoscopy with your doctor and you will be clean as a whistle! Plus, you get a coolonoscopy out of the deal.0
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SconnieCat wrote: »OP posts thread asking about benefits of cleanses and how they work.
OP receives responses advising against cleanses with backup and answers to her questions in original post.
OP becomes hostile and then claims everyone in her life including pets have done cleanses.
Responses continue to advise OP against cleanses.
OP claims to be an anthropologist and that suddenly she knows more than everyone ever about cleanses.
OP decides she'll just talk to Beyonce later this week.
Well that's it guys... I'm going to go stick my head in an oven now. It's been real.
Take me with you.0 -
When someone is considered a fruit loop....
my dog did a cleanse and it worked....omg.
These people really do exist. LOL
I need to come up with something to sell to these people.0 -
ah, man... I missed all the fun.
I like me a good 'cleanse' thread.
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well that's all folks, nothing to see here...
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ceoverturf wrote: »
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so true.This quote sums up this thread really nicely...I have had so many conversations or email exchanges with students in the last few years wherein I anger them by indicating that simply saying, "This is my opinion" does not preclude a connected statement from being dead wrong. It still baffles me that some feel those four words somehow give them carte blanche to spout batshit oratory or prose. And it really scares me that some of those students think education that challenges their ideas is equivalent to an attack on their beliefs. -Mick Cullen
I had a lady try to say that she did not do what a few of us witnessed
it's my opinion I did not do that
well, everyone saw you...so your opinion is wrong0 -
Just a small town goat
Livin' in a lonely world
took the midnight train
Goatin anywhere0 -
SconnieCat wrote: »OP posts thread asking about benefits of cleanses and how they work.
OP receives responses advising against cleanses with backup and answers to her questions in original post.
OP becomes hostile and then claims everyone in her life including pets have done cleanses.
Responses continue to advise OP against cleanses.
OP claims to be an anthropologist and that suddenly she knows more than everyone ever about cleanses.
OP decides she'll just talk to Beyonce later this week.
Well that's it guys... I'm going to go stick my head in an oven now. It's been real.
Take me with you.
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Ok. Why is everyone so angry? And why is everyone saying "don't waste your money" and "it has absolutely nothing to do with weight loss" Because
1. cleanses dont cost anything.
2. you can loose weight. (or gain, if that is your goal)
So no one here has had success? Okay.
Guess what, a lot of people got fat from
doing P90X. lol
Oh I don't know, honey is pretty darn expensive. As are spices.
I know a woman who did a cleanse after I started losing weight on Weight Watchers. She couldn't find her WW books and didn't want to pay the membership so instead she did a cleanse. For 10 days, she ate lightly and had this drink thing. Within 2 days of her cleanse being done, the weight was back. Because she ate food again instead of mostly just liquid. I've never known anyone who lost weight on them except one. That one person used that cleanse as an excuse to cut calories extremely and ended up with an eating disorder. She was disappointed it didn't work but still claims cleanses work. All I could think was "But... you did it... and it didn't work! Isn't that enough proof for you?"
And no one got fat doing P90X. They got fat by eating too much.0 -
In fact, scientist within GI Departments at some of our leading institutions, (Cleveland Clinic is one
example) are now discovering diverse genetic disparities across the board with gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance, various mild allergies, inabilities to process B12 all causes by the inherited bacterial set of individual intestinal tracts. The rise of antibiotic use attributed to the rise in acid reflux in the past few decades and the need to use probiotics to no avail. In conclusion, a diet for one person may not work for another, due to their bacterial fauna in their gut. Cleanses can correct this.
No they don't. There are numerous studies that describe how difficult it is to change your gut microflora. Some people do change it but they basically have to clear it out and get a fecal transplant to add new bacteria back in.
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soapsandropes wrote: »In fact, scientist within GI Departments at some of our leading institutions, (Cleveland Clinic is one
example) are now discovering diverse genetic disparities across the board with gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance, various mild allergies, inabilities to process B12 all causes by the inherited bacterial set of individual intestinal tracts. The rise of antibiotic use attributed to the rise in acid reflux in the past few decades and the need to use probiotics to no avail. In conclusion, a diet for one person may not work for another, due to their bacterial fauna in their gut. Cleanses can correct this.
No they don't. There are numerous studies that describe how difficult it is to change your gut microflora. Some people do change it but they basically have to clear it out and get a fecal transplant to add new bacteria back in.
I pray to the powers that be every day that I never have to get something called a "fecal transplant."0
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