So you want to start lifting? Great!
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This is very good advice of course, I would go a bit further and simplify your list of information personally. There are lots of different exercises to do, but only 5 that someone who is new should do:
* Back Squat --- http://youtu.be/dQFsSj2IUAo
* Bench press --- http://youtu.be/34XRmd3a8_0
* Deadlift --- http://youtu.be/nXfzWe-6t0w
* Standing Overhead press
* Bent over row
(I'm adding in a few example vids that I like, but please do your own research).
You already mentioned them, but I would really emphasize these 5. These 5 are the only lifts a new lifter needs to do. They are the most rudimentary lifts every lifter should know. It took me months to figure that out, wish I would've had someone spell that out for me in the beginning. Do these 5 and ignore everything else. Literally. Until you get good at them, everything else is wasting time.
These 5 compounds can be a little bit scary for newbies, they were for me. I suggest you go on YouTube and search "how to" on each one (how to deadlift, how to bench, etc). Lots of good proper instruction will come up. Watch and learn at least a few videos on each move to get a sample for the different subtleties and nuances from different instructors.
A word of advice: maybe you're a dude who thinks he knows how to do one of these already, like benching. You probably don't, actually. Learn from these people who really know what they're doing and please study proper form. Even if you think you know, review the basics. Do it periodically. The last thing you want when lifting is an injury.
The worst thing you can do is copy what others do at the gym. Please don't, people at the gym don't know what they're doing. The reason: people don't study. They don't ask critical questions. Some do, most don't. If you copy others you see, listen to your boyfriend or whatever, odds are their knowledge is incomplete and probably bad. YouTube videos are your best crowd sourced knowledge base. Do your own research. Please get in the habit of researching and studying.
I'd skip pushups, pull-ups, chin-ups and dips to start. They are good compounds sure, but many new people don't have the strength to do 1 pull-up. Build some strength using the 5 then start incorporating other compounds like those. Really, every exercise is superfluous outside of the basic 5 lifts. I'd also argue they just aren't as good, pull-ups are a good compound but they only work a subset if the body. Squats etc work the entire body, and really need to be learned first.
And the sooner you do and learn the 5 compounds the better off you'll be. If you're serious about lifting it will take you years to master all 5. They inform so many other lifts (there are many variants of them, related lifts etc) and it's almost impossible to know them all. But to start it's really that simple, the more complex and deeper stuff will come later.
And as some twins say, it's just advice. Do your own research and figure it out.
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Great informative info! Gonna try.0
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I've been running the SL program since March, would like to now focus on lower body, can anyone guide me to a program that works lower body? Or any other ideas/suggestions?0
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I've been running the SL program since March, would like to now focus on lower body, can anyone guide me to a program that works lower body? Or any other ideas/suggestions?
Unsure of what you mean?? SL has you squatting 3x per week....that's pretty much focused on lower body?
Do you mean extra accessory exercises?
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piperdown44 wrote: »I've been running the SL program since March, would like to now focus on lower body, can anyone guide me to a program that works lower body? Or any other ideas/suggestions?
Unsure of what you mean?? SL has you squatting 3x per week....that's pretty much focused on lower body?
Do you mean extra accessory exercises?
After looking over some of the programs, found what I was looking for, Strong Curves has several programs for full body and lower body.0 -
Elektrolyfe wrote: »As an additional alternative (if they are going the split route) I would recommend a Push/Pull/Legs split.
Yes that works great for me the push/pull/leg day, just so you can focus on certain muscle groups.0 -
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Just a brief note/point that I wanted to make since I've seen a lot of friends offline make this mistake recently.
If you just started or have been lifting for only a few months, don't do any of those split routines. Split routine meaning this:
- Monday: Biceps, Chest [Bicep curls, dumbbell chest flys, ... ]
- Tuesday: Hamstrings, Back [Cable Kickbacks, Good Mornings, ...]
- Wednesday: Shoulders, Triceps [Shrugs, Tricep kickbacks, ... ]
- etc, etc.
You don't need those separate days. You don't need isolation exercises. Splits like that are for intermediates. A lot of isolation work won't do you a lot of good if you don't have a good muscle base. Think of them us 'touch-up work' or as the 'decoration' to your plain frosted cake.
Focus on compound lifts.
Compound Lifts:
- bench
- squat
- deadlift
- pull ups
- rows
- military press
If you still want a split instead of a full body workout of compound lifts, do an upper/lower split, like this:
Workout A: Upper
- Bench
- Pull ups
- Rows
- Military Press
Workout B: Lower
- Squat
- Deadlift
- Leg Press
- Calf Raises
Alternate, and workout every other day.
If you have a great muscle imbalance where one side is very, very clearly so much stronger than the other, where one side is completely dominant (as in my fellow fencers out there), then feel free to add a bit of isolation/unilateral work to try and even yourself out.
Have a good day, everyone~!
Good beginner programs include:
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
New Rules of Lifting for Men/Women
All Pro's
Strong Curves
Some are/can be free. Just look on google or at Bodybuilding.com
Any other suggestions?
So last year i started doing the strong lift and kind of got away from it. Don't really like doing deadlifts, rows, and even squats (with weights). So what other options do you or anyone else suggest? I can do body weight squats, I don't mind bench presses, can probably deal with dumbbell curls or something like that. Is there a beginner plan that doesn't involve a variation of strong lift or starting strength?0 -
You can... but... compound exercises beat isolation hands down.
This basic approach has been around for years and is still as valid today. It works.
You can get a great workout and gains from a handfull of exercises twice a week. Not just beginners. Every level.
I vary my excersies for fun and adding interest.
But use this routine 90% of the time as it gives a great workout - particularly if you're pushed for time. Alternating push pull movements lets you give your all to each one.
I don't squat due to an old back injury...
Wed and Sat...
Leg press (squat if you can)
Calf raise
Pulldown (chins if you are strong enough)
Shoulder press
Row
Bench press
I finish with some mat ab, core and stretching.
Other days I alternate cardio and swimming for fitness.
Work hard, eat well, rest.
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Just a brief note/point that I wanted to make since I've seen a lot of friends offline make this mistake recently.
If you just started or have been lifting for only a few months, don't do any of those split routines. Split routine meaning this:
- Monday: Biceps, Chest [Bicep curls, dumbbell chest flys, ... ]
- Tuesday: Hamstrings, Back [Cable Kickbacks, Good Mornings, ...]
- Wednesday: Shoulders, Triceps [Shrugs, Tricep kickbacks, ... ]
- etc, etc.
You don't need those separate days. You don't need isolation exercises. Splits like that are for intermediates. A lot of isolation work won't do you a lot of good if you don't have a good muscle base. Think of them us 'touch-up work' or as the 'decoration' to your plain frosted cake.
Focus on compound lifts.
Compound Lifts:
- bench
- squat
- deadlift
- pull ups
- rows
- military press
If you still want a split instead of a full body workout of compound lifts, do an upper/lower split, like this:
Workout A: Upper
- Bench
- Pull ups
- Rows
- Military Press
Workout B: Lower
- Squat
- Deadlift
- Leg Press
- Calf Raises
Alternate, and workout every other day.
If you have a great muscle imbalance where one side is very, very clearly so much stronger than the other, where one side is completely dominant (as in my fellow fencers out there), then feel free to add a bit of isolation/unilateral work to try and even yourself out.
Have a good day, everyone~!
Good beginner programs include:
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
New Rules of Lifting for Men/Women
All Pro's
Strong Curves
Some are/can be free. Just look on google or at Bodybuilding.com
Any other suggestions?
So last year i started doing the strong lift and kind of got away from it. Don't really like doing deadlifts, rows, and even squats (with weights). So what other options do you or anyone else suggest? I can do body weight squats, I don't mind bench presses, can probably deal with dumbbell curls or something like that. Is there a beginner plan that doesn't involve a variation of strong lift or starting strength?
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Forgot to come back to this, @GR4H4M5 ,is that stuff you listed done with cable machines?
I tend to use machine's as they're quickest to set up and change weights... which helps you keep rest times between sets down - and let's you train quicker, which is handy if you you're pushed for time/on the way to work.
Some people prefer racks and/or free weights.
IMO it's more the choice of exercise than the platform you use that matters.
Best way to find out what works for you is to experiment. Take bench press for example. Try it with free weights, barbell and bumbells. Try it in a power rack. Try machines.
All have their pros and cons.
Free weight barbell lets you move more naturally... but it's hard to train safely to failure on your own. We've all seen 'fail' vids of guys pinning themselves to the bench.
Dumbells again allow for more natural movement - and arguably invovle more muscle to do the movement, due to the additional effort needed to balance the bells. But they may mean you can't shift as much weight.
Racks and machines are safer, and may allow you to use more weight due to more stability, and might keep your form in check. Though sometimes they can force you into a line of movement that you may find a little unnatural though.
Happy experimenting :-)
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Nice post and lots of great info
I'm not a beginner.
I follow that basic advice on compound exercises for my two days a week of lifting, sometimes only one day.
I train for triathlons and find the compound exercises are the best way to preserve lean body mass when focusing on long rides or long run workouts during the week.
There is something magical about a set of deadlifts and bench / shoulder presses to blast the upper body back into work shape
I will admit to doing that drop set of standing dumbbell curls for the good feeling of a solid pump though
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teresamwhite wrote: »In so I can keep the videos handy...
Thanks for the advice! It's much appreciated!
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Hi thanks for the great info, I'm a pretty solidly built person, large frame but I'm fat (being blunt), so my question is while I'm dieting I have been been concentrating on doing all cardio exercises and have lost 18lbs in four wks but would I burn more calories doing weights? I've been told I'm fairly muscly cos of my large frame but it's more mass than toned muscle if you know what I mean...?? I used to train a lot when I was younger and know I can bulk up fairy quickly but I have still got 3 stone of fat to loose.
Any advice would be appreciated, weight or cardio for best fat loss I spose is the question or even a mixture of both??0 -
fatboystevefisher wrote: »Hi thanks for the great info, I'm a pretty solidly built person, large frame but I'm fat (being blunt), so my question is while I'm dieting I have been been concentrating on doing all cardio exercises and have lost 18lbs in four wks but would I burn more calories doing weights? I've been told I'm fairly muscly cos of my large frame but it's more mass than toned muscle if you know what I mean...?? I used to train a lot when I was younger and know I can bulk up fairy quickly but I have still got 3 stone of fat to loose.
Any advice would be appreciated, weight or cardio for best fat loss I spose is the question or even a mixture of both??
Weight lifting. But, I personally recommend at least 30 mins of cardio (you decide the type... Biking, walking, running, stair stepper, etc.) I do it daily just to keep my heart in check. You won't lose muscle or any of that crap. I powerlift in the USAPL and my strength hasn't bottomed out because I cardio every day.1 -
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Squats and deadlifts are my absolute favorite thing to do! I have no idea why people skip these!1
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So i was going to start. strong lifts 5x5 looks alot like this. the question is, do i do 3 warm up sets of each before doing the 5 sets at a the same weight? how humbling this will be for a noob who hasn't ever lifted correctly let along lifted for years..now at 51 yrs old lol. oh well!2
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Tomk652015 wrote: »So i was going to start. strong lifts 5x5 looks alot like this. the question is, do i do 3 warm up sets of each before doing the 5 sets at a the same weight? how humbling this will be for a noob who hasn't ever lifted correctly let along lifted for years..now at 51 yrs old lol. oh well!
If you are starting with the empty olympic bar I would maybe do a couple sets of body weight squats to get the blood flowing, then get under the bar and go. As you add some weight I would again add 1 or 2 quick warm up sets with an empty bar.1 -
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I guess I'm the contrarian here. Just started lifting and am doing a push/pull/leg split. For one, I play racquetball or tennis almost daily and doing leg workouts twice a week kill my game. Also some of the core exercises are included (squats, deadlift, rows and bench press). But the main thing is it's enjoyable and I stick to it. The best program IMO is one you're going to do for an extended period of time.2
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