Overweight gym staff
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Would you take advice on how to quit smoking from someone who continues to smoke, but allegedly "quit" smoking 15 or 20 times in his life?0
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arussell134 wrote: »patriciahutchinson89 wrote: »Better get rid of all the male OB/GYNs since they are obviously "unqualified" for pregnancy and birthing advice.
That's different the birthing process is the same for every woman (unless getting a c section which again is the same for any woman that gets one) contractions, pushing, crowning, the vagina having to be wide enough to a certain length. More to it but it is something that is constant. Just because a man can't feel contractions doesn't mean he doesn't knyow what goes on biologically when one occurs.
The other glaring difference: an obese trainer has the option of becoming a thinner, fitter one. A male OB/GYN doesn't have the option of becoming a female OB/GYN (well, not without surgery...and even so, I don't believe will be able to experience birth). Apples and oranges, bad analogy.
Uh yeah it is that's whybrid I didn't come up with it . Scroll up
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How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?0
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Packerjohn wrote: »karintalley wrote: »Sooooo, if one of you skinny MFP members who lost tons of weight suddenly one day stop working out, eating healthy,and you gain back most of your weight; are you now unqualified to give diet advice?
I'm confused to be honest. I know many people who are/used to be all into fitness but something on their life derailed them. But that doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing.
Yep pretty much unqualified. Baring some medical issues losing a bunch of weight and regaining it does not indicate the ability to give diet advice. If they knew what they were doing they would not have gained the weight back.
Says the fallible, imperfect, does things he knows he shouldn't do at times forum member. And yet here you are deciding who isn't qualified to lead another fallible, imperfect human being in this area, just because he or she is overweight for reasons that you don't know.
Gaining weight back does not make one unqualified from giving sound advice.
Does the trainer give good, safe, sound advice that is applicable to your specific needs and goals?
Does the trainer motivate you to be the best you can be in the area of <insert subject here> ?
Do you get along well with the trainer and are you able to contact him or her when in need ?0 -
MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
This woman looks fit enough, to be a personal trainer. Would it surprise you to learn; that she's paralyzed from the chest down & thus can't exercise below her chest?
No because her muscle tone is completely obviously flaccid like you would see in paralysis and the pose looks slightly unnatural because she's been unnaturally posed that way. Her stomach is a dead give away if you look for more than a few seconds.0 -
This woman looks fit enough, to be a personal trainer. Would it surprise you to learn; that she's paralyzed from the chest down & thus can't exercise below her chest?MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
Hehe!
I don't know about you my dear, but I don't pick out my personal trainers in bed!
ETA: Holy Photoshop Batman! A closeup do discover what was strapped to her leg has yielded so pretty awful touch up work. I don't think she even looks like that!
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BasicGreatGuy wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »karintalley wrote: »Sooooo, if one of you skinny MFP members who lost tons of weight suddenly one day stop working out, eating healthy,and you gain back most of your weight; are you now unqualified to give diet advice?
I'm confused to be honest. I know many people who are/used to be all into fitness but something on their life derailed them. But that doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing.
Yep pretty much unqualified. Baring some medical issues losing a bunch of weight and regaining it does not indicate the ability to give diet advice. If they knew what they were doing they would not have gained the weight back.
Says the fallible, imperfect, does things he knows he shouldn't do at times forum member. And yet here you are deciding who isn't qualified to lead another fallible, imperfect human being in this area, just because he or she is overweight for reasons that you don't know.
Gaining weight back does not make one unqualified from giving sound advice.
Does the trainer give good, safe, sound advice that is applicable to your specific needs and goals?
Does the trainer motivate you to be the best you can be in the area of <insert subject here> ?
Do you get along well with the trainer and are you able to contact him or her when in need ?
If a person lost weight and gained a bit back fine, but not to a level of obvoiusly overweight or obese. They should know how to avoid and fix the problem. Again, barring a medical issue.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?
Well I do take advise from my hairdresser who doesn't have like the best hair at all
The girl who does my nails, she doesn't have the prettiest nails but damn she does a georgeus job
I follow/like fashion advise from michael kors, you know the guy who only wears black jeans/t shirts
My aunt; she is therapist and her patients love her, do you think all therapist have this perfect and balanced life?
Life happens to everyone , if I would choose to live my life with the whole you don't play the part good enough, I would be missing pretty amazing people in my life.
but hey that is just my personal experience.0 -
BasicGreatGuy wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »karintalley wrote: »Sooooo, if one of you skinny MFP members who lost tons of weight suddenly one day stop working out, eating healthy,and you gain back most of your weight; are you now unqualified to give diet advice?
I'm confused to be honest. I know many people who are/used to be all into fitness but something on their life derailed them. But that doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing.
Yep pretty much unqualified. Baring some medical issues losing a bunch of weight and regaining it does not indicate the ability to give diet advice. If they knew what they were doing they would not have gained the weight back.
Says the fallible, imperfect, does things he knows he shouldn't do at times forum member. And yet here you are deciding who isn't qualified to lead another fallible, imperfect human being in this area, just because he or she is overweight for reasons that you don't know.
Gaining weight back does not make one unqualified from giving sound advice.
Does the trainer give good, safe, sound advice that is applicable to your specific needs and goals?
Does the trainer motivate you to be the best you can be in the area of <insert subject here> ?
Do you get along well with the trainer and are you able to contact him or her when in need ?
Not holding myself out as someone that gives advice in things I fail several times at0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »
The trainer having the body you aspire to does absolutely nothing to help YOU get it.
Their advice can help you get it if you are willing to put in the work.
You miss the point as usual. The fact he has got himself into shape shows that he knows how to do it. That will be enough for some people to make an initial preference and go for his taster session than someone who is overweight.
Nowhere did I state the stupid idea that being with a trainer you somehow by osmosis get to be in shape but its a good indication he has the knowledge to get there. That will be enough for some people.0 -
I suppose it comes down to why you hire a trainer. Many people seem to be assuming it's to learn to lose weight or keep weight off, and I don't think that's necessarily why. I saw a trainer to learn proper form for certain kinds of exercises and to put together a workout program that would work with my cardio efforts and strengthen muscles I needed strengthening/might not work enough on my own. Some of this piggybacked off of seeing a physical therapist first, and although my physical therapist was in good shape I doubt I would have rejected a referral to someone who wasn't.
I don't think there's anything wrong with choosing a trainer based on him or her having the kind of body you'd like or one who doesn't, but it's a funny thing to argue about when people have different goals in employing a trainer and different sources of information about their options.0 -
farfromthetree wrote: »You don't have to be super in shape or super lean to be a good trainer (as someone mentioned, it could be an obese power lifter) but I want someone who practices what they preach. In the beginning, as you choose a trainer, you don't have a lot to go on as far as their skills (other than word of mouth)
I would rather choose someone I can see it's working for.
Absolutely but some people seem to think its totally illogical and unfair to go that way.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?
Well I do take advise from my hairdresser who doesn't have like the best hair at all
The girl who does my nails, she doesn't have the prettiest nails but damn she does a georgeus job
I follow/like fashion advise from michael kors, you know the guy who only wears black jeans/t shirts
My aunt; she is therapist and her patients love her, do you think all therapist have this perfect and balanced life?
Life happens to everyone , if I would choose to live my life with the whole you don't play the part good enough, I would be missing pretty amazing people in my life.
but hey that is just my personal experience.
What exactly does "life happens" mean? I see that written here so many times as an excuse as to why they go back to getting overweight. Life happens ALWAYS - otherwise you are dead. While you are alive, you can control stuff like gaining or losing weight, helping others, or planting gardens and giving the fruit of your labors to the poor. Saying "life happens" to justify gaining weight is such a weak excuse.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?
Well I do take advise from my hairdresser who doesn't have like the best hair at all
The girl who does my nails, she doesn't have the prettiest nails but damn she does a georgeus job
I follow/like fashion advise from michael kors, you know the guy who only wears black jeans/t shirts
My aunt; she is therapist and her patients love her, do you think all therapist have this perfect and balanced life?
Life happens to everyone , if I would choose to live my life with the whole you don't play the part good enough, I would be missing pretty amazing people in my life.
but hey that is just my personal experience.
What exactly does "life happens" mean? I see that written here so many times as an excuse as to why they go back to getting overweight. Life happens ALWAYS - otherwise you are dead. While you are alive, you can control stuff like gaining or losing weight, helping others, or planting gardens and giving the fruit of your labors to the poor. Saying "life happens" to justify gaining weight is such a weak excuse.
I agree- "Life happens" falls in the same category as "I'm too busy". People make priorities, or they make excuses.0 -
MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
This woman looks fit enough, to be a personal trainer. Would it surprise you to learn; that she's paralyzed from the chest down & thus can't exercise below her chest?
I think youd notice when you approached her for personal training that she was paralysed. Personal trainer arent normally posing in lingerie either.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?
Well I do take advise from my hairdresser who doesn't have like the best hair at all
The girl who does my nails, she doesn't have the prettiest nails but damn she does a georgeus job
I follow/like fashion advise from michael kors, you know the guy who only wears black jeans/t shirts
My aunt; she is therapist and her patients love her, do you think all therapist have this perfect and balanced life?
Life happens to everyone , if I would choose to live my life with the whole you don't play the part good enough, I would be missing pretty amazing people in my life.
but hey that is just my personal experience.
What exactly does "life happens" mean? I see that written here so many times as an excuse as to why they go back to getting overweight. Life happens ALWAYS - otherwise you are dead. While you are alive, you can control stuff like gaining or losing weight, helping others, or planting gardens and giving the fruit of your labors to the poor. Saying "life happens" to justify gaining weight is such a weak excuse.
I agree- "Life happens" falls in the same category as "I'm too busy". People make priorities, or they make excuses.
Several months ago I started a thread titled but I don't have TIME to exercise and you wouldn't believe the nasty comments I got, hah0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?
Well I do take advise from my hairdresser who doesn't have like the best hair at all
The girl who does my nails, she doesn't have the prettiest nails but damn she does a georgeus job
I follow/like fashion advise from michael kors, you know the guy who only wears black jeans/t shirts
My aunt; she is therapist and her patients love her, do you think all therapist have this perfect and balanced life?
Life happens to everyone , if I would choose to live my life with the whole you don't play the part good enough, I would be missing pretty amazing people in my life.
but hey that is just my personal experience.
What exactly does "life happens" mean? I see that written here so many times as an excuse as to why they go back to getting overweight. Life happens ALWAYS - otherwise you are dead. While you are alive, you can control stuff like gaining or losing weight, helping others, or planting gardens and giving the fruit of your labors to the poor. Saying "life happens" to justify gaining weight is such a weak excuse.
Who are those 'they' that you are talking about? what excuse and from who, I dont even know what and where are you coming from, when I said life happens means that we all go through ups and down that just what life is , very interesting that was all the got your atention from my post.. You keep going and living life with your perfect radar and I will keep giving a shot to those lazy people with weak excuses that I guess you are refering
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I don't think I have seen overweight gym staff
But I guess health and fitness knowledge doesn't mean they put it to practice themselves. A vet doesn't need to own a horse to treat one.
But then again isn't it like taking tax/financial advice from someone convicted of tax fraud or Jimmy Carr.0 -
They went to heaps of trouble to doll her up with a pose, lingerie and photoshop but left in the urinary catheter?MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
This woman looks fit enough, to be a personal trainer. Would it surprise you to learn; that she's paralyzed from the chest down & thus can't exercise below her chest?.
OUCH!
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BasicGreatGuy wrote: »Gaining weight back does not make one unqualified from giving sound advice.
If the advice you're looking for is "how do I not gain weight back?" then...yeah...it kinda does.
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Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
They went to heaps of trouble to doll her up with a pose, lingerie and photoshop but left in the urinary catheter?MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
This woman looks fit enough, to be a personal trainer. Would it surprise you to learn; that she's paralyzed from the chest down & thus can't exercise below her chest?.
OUCH!
There was a movement last year or so to encourage people with -ostomy bags to feel beautiful/sexy even with the bags. This picture might be related to that?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/colostomy-bag-model-picture_n_5548863.html
http://www.today.com/health/male-model-blake-beckford-poses-shirtless-ileostomy-bag-1D800243880 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »
The trainer having the body you aspire to does absolutely nothing to help YOU get it.
Their advice can help you get it if you are willing to put in the work.
You miss the point as usual. The fact he has got himself into shape shows that he knows how to do it. That will be enough for some people to make an initial preference and go for his taster session than someone who is overweight.
Nowhere did I state the stupid idea that being with a trainer you somehow by osmosis get to be in shape but its a good indication he has the knowledge to get there. That will be enough for some people.
Most trainers have the knowledge to help you get it shape. But again, them looking good does absolutely nothing to help you.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »How about taking advice from an alcoholic on how to quit drinking because he or she quit drinking once or twice for a few months, even though they now continue doing so? Is that being judgmental?
Well I do take advise from my hairdresser who doesn't have like the best hair at all
The girl who does my nails, she doesn't have the prettiest nails but damn she does a georgeus job
I follow/like fashion advise from michael kors, you know the guy who only wears black jeans/t shirts
My aunt; she is therapist and her patients love her, do you think all therapist have this perfect and balanced life?
Life happens to everyone , if I would choose to live my life with the whole you don't play the part good enough, I would be missing pretty amazing people in my life.
but hey that is just my personal experience.
What exactly does "life happens" mean? I see that written here so many times as an excuse as to why they go back to getting overweight. Life happens ALWAYS - otherwise you are dead. While you are alive, you can control stuff like gaining or losing weight, helping others, or planting gardens and giving the fruit of your labors to the poor. Saying "life happens" to justify gaining weight is such a weak excuse.
I agree- "Life happens" falls in the same category as "I'm too busy". People make priorities, or they make excuses.
Life can get in the way of exercise; injury, illness to you (or someone you care for) work, etc. Life getting in the way regarding eating habits is bull.0 -
It's not about how anybody looks but a fitness trainer's level of fitness. That's called professionalism and leadership by example.MoiAussi93 wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
The trainer having the body you aspire to does absolutely nothing to help YOU get it.
Their advice can help you get it if you are willing to put in the work.
You miss the point as usual. The fact he has got himself into shape shows that he knows how to do it. That will be enough for some people to make an initial preference and go for his taster session than someone who is overweight.
Nowhere did I state the stupid idea that being with a trainer you somehow by osmosis get to be in shape but its a good indication he has the knowledge to get there. That will be enough for some people.
Most trainers have the knowledge to help you get it shape. But again, them looking good does absolutely nothing to help you.
I respect more those who practice what they preach, and most people seeking health and fitness goals are inspired by those who have reached and maintained such goals. Success breeds success...and like attracts like.
The last thing I'd ever pay to hear is advice and counsel from somebody who can't apply his own guidance.
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Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
It's not about how anybody looks but a fitness trainer's level of fitness. That's called professionalism and leadership by example.MoiAussi93 wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
The trainer having the body you aspire to does absolutely nothing to help YOU get it.
Their advice can help you get it if you are willing to put in the work.
You miss the point as usual. The fact he has got himself into shape shows that he knows how to do it. That will be enough for some people to make an initial preference and go for his taster session than someone who is overweight.
Nowhere did I state the stupid idea that being with a trainer you somehow by osmosis get to be in shape but its a good indication he has the knowledge to get there. That will be enough for some people.
Most trainers have the knowledge to help you get it shape. But again, them looking good does absolutely nothing to help you.
I respect more those who practice what they preach, and most people seeking health and fitness goals are inspired by those who have reached and maintained such goals. Success breeds success...and like attracts like.
The last thing I'd ever pay to hear is advice and counsel from somebody who can't apply his own guidance.
That's your choice. Personally the ones I respect the most are those who really know their area of expertise, whether they practice it themselves or not.
So as long as they are good, I don't care if my trainer has a few extra pounds, or my doctor smokes. Practice what they preach is great for them, but really irrelevant to me. I don't need a trainer to inspire me, I just need them to provide instruction in proper technique.0 -
Not talking about all gym staff, but the thing about personal trainers is...well, it's personal. I can see how someone with low fitness and a lot to lose could feel intimidated by an ultra fit trainer. The client might discount what an uber fit trainer says, thinking "that doesn't apply to someone like me," but find inspiration from a trainer who has made progress on the exact same path and is still working at it. Just like someone starting weight training in their 60's might wonder if a 20-something trainer has expertise in issues particular to the client's age. I'd want someone fit but relatable. I probably wouldn't relate well with a competition bodybuilder, e.g. , but you know, it's personal, and another person would. A gym that recognizes the diverse needs of its members probably has a diverse staff.0
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conqueringsquidlette wrote: »Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
They went to heaps of trouble to doll her up with a pose, lingerie and photoshop but left in the urinary catheter?MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
This woman looks fit enough, to be a personal trainer. Would it surprise you to learn; that she's paralyzed from the chest down & thus can't exercise below her chest?.
OUCH!
There was a movement last year or so to encourage people with -ostomy bags to feel beautiful/sexy even with the bags. This picture might be related to that?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/colostomy-bag-model-picture_n_5548863.html
http://www.today.com/health/male-model-blake-beckford-poses-shirtless-ileostomy-bag-1D80024388
I have an Ostomy Bag (ileostomy) for the last 12 years. I work out 7 day's a week at the gym and home for atleast 2 hours per day. I'm very fit and having a BAG doesn't stop me doing most thing's I enjoy. My only downside is my food intake, with only having a 1/4 of my small bowel left. I also have to use catheters to go for a pee, but so what it doesn't worry me. There are so many people out there that judge people with a disability? Please don't because it could be anybody on here that becomes Disabled to!0 -
oh forgot to say I Always feel beautiful and sexy because my (bag) doesn't define who I am.0
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I see a lot of people taking this personally.
People make snap judgments. Should you look into their qualifications? Of course. But if you're just basing this off first sight, you wouldn't assume they are very knowledgeable.0 -
Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
Like you, I don't mean to sound unkind, but....fitfor30th wrote: »I don't want to be mean or rude, but it is bugging me. One gym I go to a lot of the staff are quite a lot overweight (and not losing). They walk around with 'Health Maker' on the back of their T-shirts and it bugs me. They also give out bad advice. I heard one of them telling a lady the other day she shouldn't aim to get big muscles, just do low reps on the weight machines.
Actually I've heard this a lot lately, in a Bodypump class I go to, the instructor keeps saying 'this will get you stronger, not bigger!' Well I actually want my muscles to get bigger, as then I will burn more calories and be more toned!
Rant over.
NO THANKS!
I have zero interest in gym staff who can't translate their knowledge into success. For example...and these are actual business people I know personally...- a financial "adviser" who filed for bankruptcy...
- a psychologist specializing in "marriage counseling" who cheated on his wife...WITH A PATIENT!
- a business "consultant" who failed in business every time he owned a business
- a police officer who steals from his crime scenes
- a real estate agent who can't sell homes
- a "motivational speaker" who attempted suicide...
- a drug rehab counselor who is a drug addict...
Personal trainers and such are much more than just mouthpieces of information or coaches.
I need to know they have the demonstrated ability to connect knowledge with action and discipline to achieve success - not excuses.
This is an amusing but not really surprising list
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