the myth, starvation mode, and dont eat before bed.

I think I see what you are trying to say, I just don't think you are very good an coming up with credible arguments. And yes, steroids are bad and have very serious side effects.
Medicating to lose weight and gain muscle is an idiotic idea. Especially when you experience lack of libido, acne, emotional outbursts (especially in the form of rage), and other not so pleasant side effects.

I don't agree with a medical approach to weight loss.I have known many people who taken steroids, with out the side effects you mentioned. I knew some professional body builders. One of my friends just retired from body building. He told me "the amount of steroids you need to take to be a pro is ridiculous" I don't EVER recall of pro bodybuilder dying due to steroid usage. Yes sometimes they die when they do stupid stuff like try to dehydrate their body to get a more lean look on stage.

Like I said, you can drown in a inch of water, does that make water dangerous? Depends on how use it.

And yes, HGH is a very popular steroid, and is sold on the black market.

I posted a few links above about GH. There are tricks you can do to trigger a natural release of GH from the body, it's very powerful for burning fat, it's also very critical for cell growth. You know one method to trigger it to release? Hunger will release Growth hormone. Oh about it being a steroid, no it's not. AS(anabolic steroids) mimic the effect of testosterone. Growth Hormone doesn't do this. It's not classified as an anabolic steroid.

I read your profile and you said it yourself you have issues with keeping weight off after you lose it... Maybe it is because your dieting method is simply not working. I can't say for certain I will keep the weight I have lost off once I have reached my goal because I have never attempted weight loss before - but I do know it seems absolutely like a reasonable and seemingly easy task by eating when I am hungry, stopping when I am full, making healthier choices and making exercise a part of my new lifestyle.

Yeah you're right eating 6 times a day wasn't working for me. Spent way too much time in the kitchen. On a more serious note. This is actually the first time I am combining everything I know in to one dietary approach. The results are fantastic, it's very easy.

For a beginner, I wouldn't recommend other wise. If a beginner told me they wanted to lose weight, I'd just tell them. "make sure you're getting enough protein it's critical for cell growth.Base your diet around that, make healthy food choices and exercise." Not complicated.

Yes heart disease and diabetes- and other obesity related diseases- have certainly increased in the United States and other countries in the past ten years- but so have trendy crash diets that cause the yo-yo effect of weight gain and muscle loss. There are many, many factors that have caused that increase and I would be willing to place money on a bet that it has absolutely zero to do with your incredibly outdated and irrelevant article.

You keep on talking about this "outdated" article. If i posted a study done 200 years ago where it states humans breathe air you would also say it's out dated. Our biology has worked pretty much the same in the last 10yrs. Fasting has been linked to many health benefits. Maybe if people incorporated fasting in to their daily lives we wouldn't have this issue.

I am done arguing with you considering you actually rhetorically inquired about steroid use, because its hilarious to me you actually find nothing wrong with using them.

You know what I think is funny, you think they are dangerous because you have absolutely no experience with them what so ever. You just blindly follow what people say. Isn't that what this entire topic is about? Guess what, asprin is dangerous too. This is a perfect example of you jumping to conclusions with out any evidence. Your only education on the subject is from the media.

ok for those saying starvation mode is real I have a few questions

1) how long does this take?

2) is there a specific amount of calories I should eat to stave off starvation mode?

Here are the facts about it. Not some random post that was gotten out of a fitness magazine. So we're on even ground I'll state it like this. Starvation mode is when your BMR slows down and your body starts to strip away it's muscle.

Without exercise, your BMR will slow down in about 72 hrs. You can combat this with exercise.

Protein get broken down to amino acids, carbohydrates get broken down in to glucose. Amino acids are critical for growth your immune system needs amino acids for it to function and repair itself. Lets say you go on a high carb diet, low in protein. Carbs can't turn in to amino acids, so what does your body do? It strips it from the muscle, slowing down your metabolic rate. This is your "STARVATION MODE"

Would this happen if you where consuming adequate amounts of protein with exercise? nope This obviously make complete sense.

Please click on the post ladyhawk posted the one about "caloric deficits" and read the second to last post completely disproving most of what he said.

You didn't disprove anything...you agreed with what he said and then said "you're wrong on these points", not giving any real explanation of why you think he's wrong, other than that you believe the BMR calculator was wrong for YOU, so you categorically state that they can't be right for ANYone. Despite the MANY studies that state that BMR calculators are fairly accurate for about 85% of the population. Basically like saying "well, I know this guy that has 3 legs, 4 arms, and weighs 45 lbs, he's 6'5" and the calculators don't work for him, so they must not work for anyone".

Okay you might be right. A few others said they get varied results with BMR calculators. I do have more muscle mass than average. I still don't think it's right that those 15% of the population need to be misinformed.

Although not a bodybuilder Lyle Alzado attributes his death to steroid abuse. Has it clearly been demonstrated in double blind laboratory studies? No. But you don't have to be a health professional with volumes of medical research to know that tinkering with the body's endorcrine system can be very damaging to long term health.

Yes I remember Alzado.dangers of anabolic steroid use is mostly based on the dosage. Like any other drug.

Awesome. Now you are condoning the use of anabolic steroids in moderation for muscle gain. I'm sure that steroid use is endorsed by the NASM or whatever that you keep throwing around as one of your credentials?

What a joke.

Funny how people just randomly assume things I never said. I can guarantee you that alcohol and tobacco use have killed more people than use of steroids. These are legal. Steroids are prescribed all the time. There many different types of steroids. I have known of Doctors who have taken steroids for the benefits. He does take them in very low doses. There was this long list of drugs that have killed people. I think anabolic steroids was like 225 on the list.

No it's not endorased by NASM. 6 meals a day was endorsed by NASM which is not "the best way" for weight loss. I have known many people who have used them without effects of emotional disturbance. Some do get this effect, but like anything else in life. Can we conclude that alcohol can effects people emotional state in a negative way? Yes the angry drunk. Can it change it for the positive? Yes the happy drunk.

While this makes perfect sense, I would bet that the reason cavemen aren't exactly the best example to compare to our current situation because they didn't live sedentary lives. They were constantly active and on the go.

Yes you're right, activity is very important to counteract the effects of starvation mode.