Saw Something On The News This Morning About Exercise Being More Important Than Diet
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Saw something on the news this morning about Coca Cola supporting a study that exercise is more important for weight loss than diet. I can see why they would support such a study because they sell sugary drinks, but it still seems interesting to me because I always felt that exercise is more important.
Just wondering what other people think about this.
Just wondering what other people think about this.
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So, if you eat 5000 calories a day but run a half mile, you'll lose weight because you exercised?0
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I think that unless you are capable of fairly substantial, legitimate calorie burns on a regular basis, it's hard for exercise to be more important than getting your deficit via diet.0
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I said in another thread that I think Coca-Cola is making a big mistake pushing this idea, lol. People will hear, "I can drink it if I exercise enough" and translate that to "I can't drink that stuff." Mostly, people don't care, but of the ones who take the message to heart, the message would cause them to sell less, not more, pop.
For me, exercise is wildly important. Without it, I couldn't lose unless I ate so little that I'd be weak and dizzy. I need my exercise! It is good for me, but it is the real reason I lose weight. When I don't exercise, I don't lose.0 -
So, if you eat at sedentary maintenance but run 5K, you won't lose weight because you didn't eat at a deficit?ValerieMartini2Olives wrote: »So, if you eat 5000 calories a day but run a half mile, you'll lose weight because you exercised?
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Exercise is for health. How much you eat and whether you are in deficit or not will cause a weight gain or weight loss.0
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So over the years we have seen a gradual fall in calorie consumption and a slowing of obesity rates, with most of the cuts in calories coming from sugary drinks I believe.
Of course Coca Cola are going to fund and support a study which says that it is effectively ok to resume higher levels of consumption because exercise is the key component.
Do I think it is a legitimate claim? No, not on a general level.0 -
Diet is more important for general health and wellness, and exercise is more important for physical fitness.bcalvanese wrote: »Saw something on the news this morning about Coca Cola supporting a study that exercise is more important than diet. I can see why they would support such a study because they sell sugary drinks, but it still seems interesting to me because I always felt that exercise is more important.
Just wondering what other people think about this.
When losing weight, becoming physically fit changes the whole way your body functions.
Some just won't get that and are satisfied a shrunken version of their current body.
Whatever, to each his own, but my goals are much higher than mere weight loss.
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ha ha - demonstrating absurdity with absurdity.DeguelloTex wrote: »
So, if you eat at sedentary maintenance but run 5K, you won't lose weight because you didn't eat at a deficit?ValerieMartini2Olives wrote: »So, if you eat 5000 calories a day but run a half mile, you'll lose weight because you exercised?
NICE!
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ValerieMartini2Olives wrote: »So, if you eat 5000 calories a day but run a half mile, you'll lose weight because you exercised?
This is as silly as suggesting IIFYM means people should eat nothing but donuts.
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The studies coming out about maintenance showing nearly complete overlap between significant exercise and long term weigh management are telling.
In theory, not necessary. In practice? Maybe a different story.
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ValerieMartini2Olives wrote: »So, if you eat 5000 calories a day but run a half mile, you'll lose weight because you exercised?
This is as silly as suggesting IIFYM means people should eat nothing but donuts.
Bro...Are you saying my donut whey protein shake is not IIFYM?!?!0 -
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bcalvanese wrote: »Saw something on the news this morning about Coca Cola supporting a study that exercise is more important than diet. I can see why they would support such a study because they sell sugary drinks, but it still seems interesting to me because I always felt that exercise is more important.
Just wondering what other people think about this.
Go home Coca Cola you're drunk
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Coca cola should expand their corporation. Only time I drink it is to splash it to top of liquor.0
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Since you didn't mention they said weight loss I'm assuming they meant exercise is more important than diet for something else. Fitness? Overall health?0
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The studies coming out about maintenance showing nearly complete overlap between significant exercise and long term weigh management are telling.
In theory, not necessary. In practice? Maybe a different story.
Sure, I think that an active lifestyle is a significant and important element of long term weight regulation.
However, when it comes to getting obesity rates down I believe that the public policy focus should remain strongly on diet and over consumption. IIRC the amount of time people spend exercising has remained constant (or actually increased - but that is from memory so I would need to check) over the last few decades. It is the reaction to our changed food environment which is the biggest part of this puzzle.
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strong_curves wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »Saw something on the news this morning about Coca Cola supporting a study that exercise is more important than diet. I can see why they would support such a study because they sell sugary drinks, but it still seems interesting to me because I always felt that exercise is more important.
Just wondering what other people think about this.
Go home Coca Cola you're drunk
It's the only way I drink their products.0 -
The correlation might be explained another way.Exercise is for health. How much you eat and whether you are in deficit or not will cause a weight gain or weight loss.
If a person is too lazy and undisciplined to exercise, they're probably too lazy and undisciplined to stick to proper food intake. The excuses for not exercising work just as well when applied to diet.
Excuses are extremely versatile and multifaceted.
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Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
Diet is more important for general health and wellness, and exercise is more important for physical fitness.bcalvanese wrote: »Saw something on the news this morning about Coca Cola supporting a study that exercise is more important than diet. I can see why they would support such a study because they sell sugary drinks, but it still seems interesting to me because I always felt that exercise is more important.
Just wondering what other people think about this.
When losing weight, becoming physically fit changes the whole way your body functions.
Some just won't get that and are satisfied a shrunken version of their current body.
Whatever, to each his own, but my goals are much higher than mere weight loss.
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And I found one of the articles in the NYTimes: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/coca-cola-funds-scientists-who-shift-blame-for-obesity-away-from-bad-diets/?_r=0bcalvanese wrote: »
::facepalm:: Really? It takes me a 5K run to burn as many calories as are in a 20 ounce bottle of Coke. Can you say "discredited"?
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Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
The correlation may explained another way.Exercise is for health. How much you eat and whether you are in deficit or not will cause a weight gain or weight loss.
If a person is too lazy and undisciplined to exercise, they're probably too lazy and undisciplined to stick to proper food intake. The excuses for not exercising work just as well when applied to diet.
Excuses are extremely versatile and multifaceted.
It's still CI/CO whether you exercise or not.0 -
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I've never understood people trying to completely separate exercise and diet as being more or less important than the other for weight loss. You need a deficit. You can get that through, relative to maintenance, exercising more, or eating less. Or you can get that through eating more calories, but exercising in a way that burns even more calories. You can get that through reducing your exercise burns, as long as you reduce your intake even more.
Now, I certainly get people focusing on whichever method works best for them. But the whole "you can't out-exercise a bad diet" thing is kinda nonsense (from a weight loss perspective). You can. Are you likely to? Well, that may depend on how bad you mean by bad. But there's a while lot of eating you can out-exercise if you're willing to say, run 100 miles a week (not that I'd recommend that).0 -
For sure!Pinnacle_IAO wrote: »
The correlation may explained another way.Exercise is for health. How much you eat and whether you are in deficit or not will cause a weight gain or weight loss.
If a person is too lazy and undisciplined to exercise, they're probably too lazy and undisciplined to stick to proper food intake. The excuses for not exercising work just as well when applied to diet.
Excuses are extremely versatile and multifaceted.
It's still CI/CO whether you exercise or not.
The question for some is which method to achieve a deficit results in a better version of who we become?
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Exercise is for health. How much you eat and whether you are in deficit or not will cause a weight gain or weight loss.
Actually exercise is the only way I get to eat a satisfying amount of food while remaining in deficit. Since it helps me stick to a deficit, it does indeed cause weight loss.
I personally hate study after study about weight loss. As if it's a competition between diet and exercise. BOTH. Do both. If I'm sitting at the beach and notice my skin is getting burned, do I turn to scientific studies to determine if I should a) reapply sunscreen or b) get in the shade? No, of course not. I do both, and fast.0 -
For some n=1 stuff, doing C25K has really messed with all my spreadsheets and I've started dropping weight more quickly than I'd like, despite eating over 3000 calories a day. I'm going to have to start eating more pretty quickly or stop C25K.0
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Exercise is for health. How much you eat and whether you are in deficit or not will cause a weight gain or weight loss.
Actually exercise is the only way I get to eat a satisfying amount of food while remaining in deficit. Since it helps me stick to a deficit, it does indeed cause weight loss.
I personally hate study after study about weight loss. As if it's a competition between diet and exercise. BOTH. Do both. If I'm sitting at the beach and notice my skin is getting burned, do I turn to scientific studies to determine if I should a) reapply sunscreen or b) get in the shade? No, of course not. I do both, and fast.
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Agreed.I've never understood people trying to completely separate exercise and diet as being more or less important than the other for weight loss. You need a deficit. You can get that through, relative to maintenance, exercising more, or eating less. Or you can get that through eating more calories, but exercising in a way that burns even more calories. You can get that through reducing your exercise burns, as long as you reduce your intake even more.
Now, I certainly get people focusing on whichever method works best for them. But the whole "you can't out-exercise a bad diet" thing is kinda nonsense (from a weight loss perspective). You can. Are you likely to? Well, that may depend on how bad you mean by bad. But there's a while lot of eating you can out-exercise if you're willing to say, run 100 miles a week (not that I'd recommend that).
It's very silly to try to separate the CI from the CO, as if they don't both count.
Weight loss happens in the kitchen, but it happens in the pool, too.
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