Keep gaining weight but doing everything right
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If you are gaining weight you are eating more than you burn
If you are gaining muscle you are eating more than you burn, or possibly at maintenance with a good progressive lifting programme
You do not know how much you are eating
Log accurately, weigh everything, come back in 6 weeks
Work out as much as you do and you will eat more to fuel your body
You are not a special snowflake, nobody is...you are just consuming around 300 calories extra per day ...in food terms it's not a lot
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AndI only gained through the time I was training.
How long were you off training, how long has this training been going on? If you took time off and are returning your body will retain water for muscle repair until it adjusts and flushes the water.
And just fitting in weight training when you can isn't going to give you the huge muscle gains your hoping for, especially with the rest of your regimen being cardio based.0 -
You don't gain significant weight in a deficit. You're talking over 30lbs of weight. Think about it, how do you build a brick house with no bricks? You can't build muscle with nothing to build it from.I haven't been overeating, in fact I am constantly under my calorie goal. I eat a special diet too, FODMAP, which are just easier digestible foods, so no lactose and low gluten etc.
Sure I've noticed I am getting muscle both around my legs and arms, noticeable biceps and forearms, but that isn't 15kgs.
Just very frustrating, hoping to find out what it is at some point.
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Well for once, I am on FODMAP because I am also taking medication for IBS. I'm in the uk so I don't pay for my visits to the gp/hospital.
I've always had it easy to gain muscle as well. I've been very athletic throughout my younger years and I'm closer to Serena than Sharapova in body type.
What I tried to say was simply that I know what foods are good or bad to weight loss in general.
I'm going to continue the FODMAP as I haven't for too long yet and see if I can see a change.
I don't believe I am a special snowflake whatever that is supposed to mean?
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Well for once, I am on FODMAP because I am also taking medication for IBS. I'm in the uk so I don't pay for my visits to the gp/hospital.
I've always had it easy to gain muscle as well. I've been very athletic throughout my younger years and I'm closer to Serena than Sharapova in body type.
What I tried to say was simply that I know what foods are good or bad to weight loss in general.
I'm going to continue the FODMAP as I haven't for too long yet and see if I can see a change.
I don't believe I am a special snowflake whatever that is supposed to mean?
If you believe that there are good and bad foods, that shows you don't have an understanding. The ONLY thing that matters for weight loss is calories. Nothing else. If you are gaining, you are eating too many of them.
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No one said you couldn't do FODMAP _AND_ weigh your food. I don't think a single person has criticized FODMAP. The only thing we've said is that even if you're following that, there's no guarantee you're eating at a deficit.Well for once, I am on FODMAP because I am also taking medication for IBS. I'm in the uk so I don't pay for my visits to the gp/hospital.
I've always had it easy to gain muscle as well. I've been very athletic throughout my younger years and I'm closer to Serena than Sharapova in body type.
What I tried to say was simply that I know what foods are good or bad to weight loss in general.
I'm going to continue the FODMAP as I haven't for too long yet and see if I can see a change.
I don't believe I am a special snowflake whatever that is supposed to mean?
In fact, we're telling you you're NOT eating at a deficit.
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Well for once, I am on FODMAP because I am also taking medication for IBS. I'm in the uk so I don't pay for my visits to the gp/hospital.
I've always had it easy to gain muscle as well. I've been very athletic throughout my younger years and I'm closer to Serena than Sharapova in body type.
What I tried to say was simply that I know what foods are good or bad to weight loss in general.
I'm going to continue the FODMAP as I haven't for too long yet and see if I can see a change.
I don't believe I am a special snowflake whatever that is supposed to mean?
If you don't believe you are a special snowflake, how do you explain the 30+ pounds of weight gain when you are insisting you are on a deficit? It isn't possible.0 -
There is no need for treating me like I'm stupid. Your comment is unnecessary DrEnalg. Especially if you didn't understand what I was trying to say by it.0
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Well for once, I am on FODMAP because I am also taking medication for IBS. I'm in the uk so I don't pay for my visits to the gp/hospital.
I've always had it easy to gain muscle as well. I've been very athletic throughout my younger years and I'm closer to Serena than Sharapova in body type.
What I tried to say was simply that I know what foods are good or bad to weight loss in general.
I'm going to continue the FODMAP as I haven't for too long yet and see if I can see a change.
I don't believe I am a special snowflake whatever that is supposed to mean?
Special snowflake is an easy way of saying that none of us get to defy science. Science tell us this:- If you eat too much you will gain weight.
- If you eat too little you will lose weight.
- If you eat just right you will maintain weight.
Even if you are taking medication, it would come down to the equation of calories in/calories out.
There are no right or wrong foods for weight gain, there are only foods. FODMAP is just a tool for you because it sounds like the type of dietary plan, but it doesn't matter as to weight loss.
Any food plan will work if you are eating less calories than you burn, and no food plan will work if you are eating at a surplus.
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How many calories do you net each day, OP?0
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No one is treating you like you're stupid.There is no need for treating me like I'm stupid. Your comment is unnecessary DrEnalg. Especially if you didn't understand what I was trying to say by it.
If you don't think you're gaining weight because of eating too many calories, what other scientific explanations do you have for that much weight gain?
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There is no need for treating me like I'm stupid. Your comment is unnecessary DrEnalg. Especially if you didn't understand what I was trying to say by it.
Well, then you must see us all as treating you as stupid because we are all saying the same thing as DrEnalg, just in different ways.
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What did you eat yesterday? with the calorie breakdown.0
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No, I specifically said that the person saying he needs to shake his head at a comment that I made, is rather rude.
I put their name in the comment specifying who I said didn't need to treat me like I am stupid. What's going on here?
Yes there are good and bad foods, you not knowing that shows you don't understand, not me.
There are foods that cause bloating and that are hard to digest. FODMAP means you are leaving out as I have mentioned, lactose and other hard digestibles. You normally stick to that when you have a gastrointestinal disorder. But yes, I am the one who knows nothing about science right.
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Wow, this was more disheartening than anything else.
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No, I specifically said that the person saying he needs to shake his head at a comment that I made, is rather rude.
I put their name in the comment specifying who I said didn't need to treat me like I am stupid. What's going on here?
Yes there are good and bad foods, you not knowing that shows you don't understand, not me.
There are foods that cause bloating and that are hard to digest. FODMAP means you are leaving out as I have mentioned, lactose and other hard digestibles. You normally stick to that when you have a gastrointestinal disorder. But yes, I am the one who knows nothing about science right.
smh
Wow, this was more disheartening than anything else.
One more time: How many calories do you consumer per day, and how many calories do you burn? How do you know each of those things with a reasonable amount of certainty?0 -
No, I specifically said that the person saying he needs to shake his head at a comment that I made, is rather rude.
I put their name in the comment specifying who I said didn't need to treat me like I am stupid. What's going on here?
Yes there are good and bad foods, you not knowing that shows you don't understand, not me.
There are foods that cause bloating and that are hard to digest. FODMAP means you are leaving out as I have mentioned, lactose and other hard digestibles. You normally stick to that when you have a gastrointestinal disorder. But yes, I am the one who knows nothing about science right.
smh
Wow, this was more disheartening than anything else.
Okay, thanks for clarifying that.
There are foods that are more nutritious than other foods, but that has nothing to do with weight loss.
Well, I would say that you are scientifically incorrect if you believe you are not eating too much while you are gaining weight (or even muscle as you said earlier on).
This is not just a bit of weight that would be normal fluctuation, this is 30 plus pounds. That's quite a lot.
How does weight gain happen if you don't eat too much?0 -
As you say you're in the UK, check out Secret Eaters on 4OD.
It shows people eating 'healthy' on a 'deficit' and gaining weight, the cause?
They're eating way way more than they think.
My favourite is the one where a woman eats a massive jacket potato, covered in a whole tin of beans, loads of cheese and fried mushrooms on the side. Apparently it was healthy and low calorie. When she found out how much it was calorie wise she was outraged, all because she used to have butter on it (and that no longer having butter on it made it automatically healthy.
Edit: Found it, it's series 3 Ep, they're all good but her reaction was one of the best I've seen.0 -
As you say you're in the UK, check out Secret Eaters on 4OD.
It shows people eating 'healthy' on a 'deficit' and gaining weight, the cause?
They're eating way way more than they think.
My favourite is the one where a woman eats a massive jacket potato, covered in a whole tin of beans, loads of cheese and fried mushrooms on the side. Apparently it was healthy and low calorie. When she found out how much it was calorie wise she was outraged, all because she used to have butter on it (and that no longer having butter on it made it automatically healthy.
How interesting! I didn't even know a channel like this existed.0 -
I have no idea how intense the training regimen you listed is but if you're active 15+ hours/week but you're still gaining weight, you're eating too much.
If you keep getting blood work done to find out why you're a special snowflake but everything you've tested for has come back acceptable then what else is there?
If you're not ready to be honest about what you're eating or how much of it you're eating or maybe you're not burning as much as you think you are, that's ok. It can be hard to objectively look at what you're eating and consuming.
If you gained 15kg in one year, that's 33 lbs. To gain 1 lb, you need to eat 3,500 calories over and above what you burned. This means you ate 115,500 calories more in the year than you burned, or 316 calories (on average) per day for the whole year. I know it wasn't every single day, but it can be looked at as 2,221 calories extra per week. Depending on what you eat, that could be one or two dinners out a week that weren't planned for.
When you break it down like that, it's very easy to eat that many more calories than you burn. Heck, I love apple fritters and one of them has like 300 calories in it.0 -
If you don't think you're gaining weight because of eating too many calories, what other scientific explanations do you have for that much weight gain?No, I specifically said that the person saying he needs to shake his head at a comment that I made, is rather rude.
I put their name in the comment specifying who I said didn't need to treat me like I am stupid. What's going on here?
Yes there are good and bad foods, you not knowing that shows you don't understand, not me.
There are foods that cause bloating and that are hard to digest. FODMAP means you are leaving out as I have mentioned, lactose and other hard digestibles. You normally stick to that when you have a gastrointestinal disorder. But yes, I am the one who knows nothing about science right.
smh
Wow, this was more disheartening than anything else.
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I looked at the FODMAP link here. And I learned you can eat the following, according to that website:
Potato
Sweet potato
Bananas
Papaya
Pineapple
Beef
Cold cuts
Salmon
Tuna
Corn tortillas
Nuts
Sugar
Mayonnaise
Lard
Cocoa powder
And lots of other calorie dense items
I think it's pretty easy to overeat any of these, even though they may not trigger your IBS. Unless you weigh them on a digital scale, it's hard to know exactly how many calories of each you're eating.0 -
I looked at the FODMAP link here. And I learned you can eat the following, according to that website:
Potato
Sweet potato
Bananas
Papaya
Pineapple
Beef
Cold cuts
Salmon
Tuna
Corn tortillas
Nuts
Sugar
Mayonnaise
Lard
Cocoa powder
And lots of other calorie dense items
I think it's pretty easy to overeat any of these, even though they may not trigger your IBS. Unless you weigh them on a digital scale, it's hard to know exactly how many calories of each you're eating.
Yep.0 -
I looked at the FODMAP link here. And I learned you can eat the following, according to that website:
Potato
Sweet potato
Bananas
Papaya
Pineapple
Beef
Cold cuts
Salmon
Tuna
Corn tortillas
Nuts
Sugar
Mayonnaise
Lard
Cocoa powder
And lots of other calorie dense items
I think it's pretty easy to overeat any of these, even though they may not trigger your IBS. Unless you weigh them on a digital scale, it's hard to know exactly how many calories of each you're eating.
oh man . . . a list with lard on it. I have IBS but I definitely don't eat/cook with lard . . . the other stuff some of it but cold cuts? no way . . . they make me feel horrible.0 -
acorsaut89 wrote: »I looked at the FODMAP link here. And I learned you can eat the following, according to that website:
Potato
Sweet potato
Bananas
Papaya
Pineapple
Beef
Cold cuts
Salmon
Tuna
Corn tortillas
Nuts
Sugar
Mayonnaise
Lard
Cocoa powder
And lots of other calorie dense items
I think it's pretty easy to overeat any of these, even though they may not trigger your IBS. Unless you weigh them on a digital scale, it's hard to know exactly how many calories of each you're eating.
oh man . . . a list with lard on it. I have IBS but I definitely don't eat/cook with lard . . . the other stuff some of it but cold cuts? no way . . . they make me feel horrible.
How do you do with pineapple? I don't have anything wrong with my innards and even I have problems when I get going with the p'apple.0 -
Tagging for later.0
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No, I specifically said that the person saying he needs to shake his head at a comment that I made, is rather rude.
I put their name in the comment specifying who I said didn't need to treat me like I am stupid. What's going on here?
Yes there are good and bad foods, you not knowing that shows you don't understand, not me.
There are foods that cause bloating and that are hard to digest. FODMAP means you are leaving out as I have mentioned, lactose and other hard digestibles. You normally stick to that when you have a gastrointestinal disorder. But yes, I am the one who knows nothing about science right.
smh
Wow, this was more disheartening than anything else.
People make many assumptions based upon a few brief sentences in a post - don't read too much into it and ignore the snark. Responding in kind isn't going to deescalate the situation.
Regardless of being on FODMAP, what you have not discussed is the number of calories you are ingesting. Bottom line if you are gaining weight you are either eating too much or burning too few calories. How you get to a caloric deficit is up to you.
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I'm just gonna come up with some easy errors that *might* add up to 300 calories.I looked at the FODMAP link here. And I learned you can eat the following, according to that website:
Potato
Sweet potato
Bananas
Papaya
Pineapple
Beef
Cold cuts
Salmon
Tuna
Corn tortillas
Nuts
Sugar
Mayonnaise
Lard
Cocoa powder
And lots of other calorie dense items
I think it's pretty easy to overeat any of these, even though they may not trigger your IBS. Unless you weigh them on a digital scale, it's hard to know exactly how many calories of each you're eating.
Yep.
150 g of banana instead of 100 g = 45 extra calories
200 g of potato instead of 100 g = 77 cal
36 g corn tortilla instead of 28 g = 25 cal
28 g mayonnaise instead of 14 g = 94 cal
28 g of mixed nuts instead of 14 g = 95 cal
=336 extra calories and 33 lbs of weight gain in a year
Edit to add: a paperclip weighs about a gram. So gather 14 paperclips and tell me how much mayo that translate to.
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if I ate off that list and didn't weigh anything, I'd be gaining weight too0
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I only eat fish and vegetables for once. And only vegetables that don't make me bloated, which would be broccoli etc.
I didn't gain 15kg in a year, that's very different. I did 3 months of training of cardio on average 4 hours a day 7 days a week + 4 days of weight training. Got very strong but also gained probably the 10kg of the 15. I halved the training when I first became i and gained another 5kg. I stopped training for 7 months and ate pretty much the same, but didn't gain anything. Now I've been back with the above mentioned training since May. I've been very sick this year in general, extreme fatigue, the IBS symptoms and bad joint and muscle stiffness. That was the reason I went for bloodworks. My doctors are the ones that keep wanting to do more tests. I'm back in physio because of the cartilage damage in my wrist. I am not even taking in account the medication for IBS or depression, knowing that at least the latter can make it hard. I just want to rule out anything medical. But it seems that on here there is only one answer for everything.
Can I delete this thread and I can try out anything else when I know for sure that none of these symptoms are related to this problem.0 -
You should check out Gary Taubes book "Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About it." He talks a lot about other reasons besides "you're eating too much" that people gain weight. He looks at case studies such as marathoners that have run the equivalent of 3 times around the globe, and yet still gain weight. It might help you gain another prespective about the chemicals in your body that cause weight gain beyond the simple calories in, calories out model.0
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