Venting and Kind of Being a Jerk, Sorry...

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  • MissAnjy
    MissAnjy Posts: 2,480 Member
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    In all honesty, instead of finding that "skinny girl" annoying who complains about her fat rolls, why don't you sympathize with her. Yeah, so she's "thinner than you" that doesn't mean that she's secure in herself. She obviously has self esteem issues and negative self image. It doesn't matter if she's fat, thin, chubby, skinny as a rail. Point is, she's not content with herself and I believe 100% that we should be empathizing with those people, not judging. We're all here because we want to make a change in our lives. Just because someone doesn't have "as big of a change" to make, doesn't make their journey any less significant then yours.

    I WAS that girl that you're complaining about. I was 165lbs (thin by most people's standards) and my friend was heavier set. She would get annoyed that I "wasn't happy with myself" when I was "so skinny". Point was, I DIDN'T SEE MYSELF THAT WAY. I had such a negative self image of myself, I SAW MYSELF as HER SIZE. I thought I was big. It's body dysmorphia. Instead of being negative and getting "pissed off" because they're thinner then you yet complaining, why not ask that person how they see themselves? I don't agree with how you dismissed the "skinny girl who got called fat one time by her mother". You obviously have no idea how a single negative comment can lead to serious eating disorders, negative self image etc. You're lashing out because you're angry. It's not your friend's fault that you're bigger than her, and that she's smaller than you. And, just because she's smaller than you, doesn't mean she should be satisfied with herself. We all have different aspirations and goals.

    You have a lot of pent up anger. I suggest you take it out in your workouts. Re-direct that negative energy into something positive for you. Instead of lashing out on a public forum and causing an outrage, do what I do, take out all your frustrations on the treadmill. It's a more productive way.
  • funfitfoodie
    funfitfoodie Posts: 630 Member
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    Just wondering how some people are going to feel when they reach their goals and are now that sk*nny b*tch everyone seems to hate on... the mirror has 2 faces people so tread lightly on how you judge others... b/c if you hopefully reach your goals... you may be getting a taste of your own medicine.

    Well said!
  • Mads1997
    Mads1997 Posts: 1,494 Member
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    Just wondering how some people are going to feel when they reach their goals and are now that sk*nny b*tch everyone seems to hate on... the mirror has 2 faces people so tread lightly on how you judge others... b/c if you hopefully reach your goals... you may be getting a taste of your own medicine.

    It would seem lots don't have a problem with the term. Check this link.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/245036-operation-skinny-b-tch-5-13-8-13-week-2?hl=skinny#posts-3307523
  • ilikeflowers
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    We are all here to better ourselves, support eachother, and reach our goals. Being one of the skinny girls that you're talking about I wanted to express that everyone has their own battles and struggles. So when an overweight person is trying to lose weight and looks for support it ok, but when a thin person looks for support it's fishing for compliments? Do I have to have been at least 300 pounds to deserve support? To the women that have lost weight, are here trying to lose weight, or have reached their goal I support everyone equally. I consider myself my biggest competitor, I don't judge others. How many times do you see people saying "I'm so excited look at me I lost all this weight before and after photos!" and I think that's amazing and love it, we're here to support. But because my goals are different I'm not allowed to share my small victories? Sometimes I feel oppressed where I have to walk on eggshells for fear of making someone angry that I'm working on myself. What if I feel beautiful that day and wanted to share it like many of the other fabulous women (and men!) on here? In real life I feel shunned from alot of my friends that are self conscious about their weight or roll their eyes when I say I want to get into better shape. I can't talk to many people about it without them getting passive aggressive. I welcome your rant, let it out. We all have our own struggles and through communication and support we can better understand each other and help each other reach goals, whatever they might be.
  • funfitfoodie
    funfitfoodie Posts: 630 Member
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    Just wondering how some people are going to feel when they reach their goals and are now that sk*nny b*tch everyone seems to hate on... the mirror has 2 faces people so tread lightly on how you judge others... b/c if you hopefully reach your goals... you may be getting a taste of your own medicine.

    It would seem lots don't have a problem with the term. Check this link.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/245036-operation-skinny-b-tch-5-13-8-13-week-2?hl=skinny#posts-3307523

    I'm find with it as long as its intention isn't derogatory
  • cupotee
    cupotee Posts: 181 Member
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    OMG I know what you mean. Or the skinny people who are like, "OMG I'M SO FREAKING FAT." So then you go, "well, eat better and exercise." and then they go "Well, I'm not THAT fat." Haaate fishers
  • MattAxtell
    MattAxtell Posts: 73 Member
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    In this thread:

    Fat people hating on skinny people.

    Then skinny people hating on fat people for hating on skinny people.

    Thanks for the hearty chuckle

    Good read
  • busygirl1
    busygirl1 Posts: 217
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    Well said. I am leader of a weight loss support group and I hear the same excuses every week.

    wow, as the leader of a support group I would have expected more empathy!

    I think the rest has been just about covered, you shouldn't read peoples 'fishing' posts if they annoy you so much.
  • Lisone
    Lisone Posts: 78 Member
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    In all honesty, instead of finding that "skinny girl" annoying who complains about her fat rolls, why don't you sympathize with her. Yeah, so she's "thinner than you" that doesn't mean that she's secure in herself. She obviously has self esteem issues and negative self image. It doesn't matter if she's fat, thin, chubby, skinny as a rail. Point is, she's not content with herself and I believe 100% that we should be empathizing with those people, not judging. We're all here because we want to make a change in our lives. Just because someone doesn't have "as big of a change" to make, doesn't make their journey any less significant then yours.

    I WAS that girl that you're complaining about. I was 165lbs (thin by most people's standards) and my friend was heavier set. She would get annoyed that I "wasn't happy with myself" when I was "so skinny". Point was, I DIDN'T SEE MYSELF THAT WAY. I had such a negative self image of myself, I SAW MYSELF as HER SIZE. I thought I was big. It's body dysmorphia. Instead of being negative and getting "pissed off" because they're thinner then you yet complaining, why not ask that person how they see themselves? I don't agree with how you dismissed the "skinny girl who got called fat one time by her mother". You obviously have no idea how a single negative comment can lead to serious eating disorders, negative self image etc. You're lashing out because you're angry. It's not your friend's fault that you're bigger than her, and that she's smaller than you. And, just because she's smaller than you, doesn't mean she should be satisfied with herself. We all have different aspirations and goals.

    You have a lot of pent up anger. I suggest you take it out in your workouts. Re-direct that negative energy into something positive for you. Instead of lashing out on a public forum and causing an outrage, do what I do, take out all your frustrations on the treadmill. It's a more productive way.

    I TOTALLY AGREE! :flowerforyou:
  • BarnAvVårTid
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    jeez people, you do realize a lot of therapists are going to be needed, right? where I live the regime is cutting down on the psychiatrists because they don't think they're that needed. they're so wrong.
    everybody wants a personal therapist nowadays. I think we should all just learn how to deal with each other.

    if a skinny girl needs therapy in your opinion, then give her some. not that hard is it?
  • rundgrenfan
    rundgrenfan Posts: 211
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    Like religion, fitness advice seems best taken when given by showing a good example, not by force!

    Everyone here is at a different point in their weight loss/gain/toning perspective. I can see my old self, my current self, and my future self in a lot of the different postings. I like that because I can see that I'm growing (while shrinking!).

    Personally, while I cruise the forums, I find the most satisfaction at having friended people who are similar in size, goal, and age, and motvation level!
  • Higglyjiggly64
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    First, I don't think damcool was being negative or saying people shouldn't be on here. I believe she is frustrated by some of the people around her. Be honest, aren't we all. She came on here just to vent. Isn't that what this is forum is for? Motivation AND support? I was both those people she talks about. I'm ashamed when I look back at how much I complained about how fat I was. But like another poster said this was how I saw myself. Now I'm on the other side. I was the fat person on the couch eating junk food whining about being out of shape. That said, I understand the frustration that damcool feels. There is a person where I work who keeps asking me, "What's the name of the website? I have to lose some weight!" I want to just look at her now after 4 months of asking and say if you haven't gone on by now, forget it! But I don't, because I know that she, like me, will reach the point when she is ready and will finally get on MFP. Then again, maybe not, but I will keep giving her the name. I also know that when I reach my goal weight (which is 20 pounds heavier than back when I thought I was FAT) I will TOTALLY appreciate where I am at that point in my life. Heck, I APPRECIATE where I am now! We have to remember that if someone's venting or emotional outpouring bothers us, to just go to the next post rather than start arguements. We'll all be happier for it.
  • StevLL
    StevLL Posts: 921 Member
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    I believe the OP was talking about folks she interacts with and not all and isn't this supposed to be a place to vent no matter what our frustrations? That being said here is my take,

    Luckily I have not had too much negative experience here and have to say overall MFP is a wonderful site. I think it's great to have an eclectic continuum of folks along the body size scale to relate too and get advise and inspiration from. I have been lucky enough to have all positive friends and nobody is too obsessed with a particular view. We are all here together trying to achieve a healthier lifestyle and that looks different for all, but support and encouragement are and should be neutral to our goals, not subject to. (if that makes sense) I would hope as fellow beings we would just reach out and offer support from our hearts and not try to cast judgment or push our personal agendas on each other.

    As for commenting on diaries, I tend not to worry too much about their calories unless it is a striking contrast to what I know their goals are. Let's face it if you are showing up consistently and making the effort, then that's half the battle and I believe needs recognition and encouragement. So what if someone's over or under one day or even a few. If they consistently show up, lose weight, fluctuate, or have NSV's, or not, then I'm going to support them, becuase I want them to keep coming back so they stay committed and eventually find their path to success. I know there is no utopian community anywhere online or on the ground, but we can create a caring, supportive and encouraging place, by our actions. This place rocks and I wish you all success, however that looks for you!
  • Panda_Jack
    Panda_Jack Posts: 829 Member
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  • pyro13g
    pyro13g Posts: 1,127 Member
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    Compulsive use that causes harm = addiction. A person can only blame themselves for their body. If it's a medical condition or mental one getting in the way, then they need to get the right help. McDonalds or any other source of food isn't the problem, it's the person putting what they sell in their mouth.
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    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
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  • IamRoJ
    IamRoJ Posts: 530 Member
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    I know what you mean. Stay true to yourself and keep your goals in mind. Dont let other people's negativity drag you down.

    a little bit harsh dontcha think, people are here for different reasons, first of all i congratulate them for being here and wanting to make the change at all, whether they have a disorder whether they are FAT or skinny, i don't judge anyone, we're all here to support each other whatever the reason we're here, and not every FAT **** goes to MacDonalds 4 times a week !!!!!!!!!!

    I agree with SJD here...why is it OK to be harsh and judgemental but not to be insecure regardless of weight? I've never been the "skinny" girl, but I am sure they have some of the same hangups us chubsters do! I will support 'em regardless!
  • bayabaya
    bayabaya Posts: 52
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    well that is why we have forums.. for people to ask and say whatever they want. unfortunately you cannot change how people and feel and what they want to say. if you dont like it, then dont read it & i suggest you stay away from the forums.
  • nab22
    nab22 Posts: 168
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    Hahaha panda_jack.

    My two cents: If you were more open-minded to the struggles of people smaller than you like myself, you would know that a common problem with "skinny" people, especially girls, is that many of us still can still be considered obese because we have unhealthy body fat percentages. So, rather than judging people that YOU think should be happy with themselves, why not give them the same support you yourself joined MFP to find, because we're all here to be healthy and change our lifestyles, not to look like toothpicks.
  • bayabaya
    bayabaya Posts: 52
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    nab22, well said :) !