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    Just started counting and I'm putting on weight!?

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    • Posts: 277 Member
      @emhunter you are wrong on so many levels. CICO is science which is fact, not something yoi believe in or not.
    • Posts: 5,377 Member
      emhunter wrote: »
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      I did not say people can never lose weight. CI<CO is not all the equation is if you do that but only eat carbs and don't lose. That's simple math. That is a logical fact. There are people in this world with insulin resistance that if they eat 1000 calories of bread and ran 2 miles and drank water, their body would not allow them to lose. Because of the insulin resistance they cannot break down that bread. So they still were eating less calories than they expended. But lost nothing.
      Ok, but energy can only be converted, never created nor destroyed - that's one of the most immutable scientific laws we have.
      So the questions are, when running 2 miles, where did the energy come from? When eating bread, where did the energy go?
    • Posts: 15,357 Member
      Reerdaber wrote: »
      Im hoping it's just a "fluctuation" due to it being the beginning of a new diet, the way I was eating before was the same, just too much as I couldnt budge... Im hoping it will drop in a week or two. The doctor is sending me back for more blood tests to see what my hormone cycle is up to. I will start using my food scales over measuring from now on (boyfriend thinks im mental for measuring every little thing I eat lol)

      Oh hey, this was a thread about @Reerdaber.

      It sounds like you've identified your problem. I always find that when I make a change in diet or exercise, the scale tends to freak out for about 6 weeks (I'll often see a gain, and then it will suddenly drop and then normalize with what I'm expecting). Getting the hormones checked is never a bad idea, but I'm guessing with weighing your foods and giving it time you'll soon see progress. I also recommend taking measurements and progress photos because the scale does show so many fluctuations.

      Good luck!
    • Posts: 1,212 Member
      natboosh69 wrote: »
      @emhunter you are wrong on so many levels. CICO is science which is fact, not something yoi believe in or not.

      I'm not explaining this again. It is also science that with certain medical conditions you have to do more than just limit cals in vs cals out. Do some real research. Don't assume and you will see.
    • Posts: 15,317 Member
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      I'm not explaining this again. It is also science that with certain medical conditions you have to do more than just limit cals in vs cals out. Do some real research. Don't assume and you will see.[/quote]

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      @janejellyroll im using bread as an example because regular white bread is not a complex carb.
    • Posts: 1,212 Member
      @DeguelloTex it is possible. I have done it. Many times.
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      @UltimateRBF I am not posting it. I'm not on trial. But people that speak without knowing what they are saying or if there are other possibilities are doing themselves a disservice. How one can vehemently deny things without looking it up and asking is beyond me. It is entirely possible that people are misinformed or only know a peace of the puzzle. I don't need excuses. I've reached a healthy weight.
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    • Posts: 8,626 Member
      wheres my popcorn.......

      and special snowflakes ALWAYS think they are special snowflakes and the truth of science doesn't apply to them in ANY fashion. Hence, why I don't get involved....
    • Posts: 1,212 Member
      @UltimateRBF on second thought, here is just one link. But people should ask docs and find out for themselves.

      http://www.pcosdietsupport.com/pcos-symptoms/weight-loss-with-pcos/
    • Posts: 15,357 Member
      emhunter wrote: »
      @janejellyroll im using bread as an example because regular white bread is not a complex carb.

      Complex carbohydrates are made up of sugar molecules that are strung together in long, complex chains. White bread is a complex carb.
    • Posts: 3,203 Member
      emhunter wrote: »
      @UltimateRBF on second thought, here is just one link. But people should ask docs and find out for themselves.

      http://www.pcosdietsupport.com/pcos-symptoms/weight-loss-with-pcos/

      This was on your link. What a complete shock.

      "In a recent study, researchers found that women without PCOS needed roughly 1868 calories per day whilst women with PCOS only needed around 1445 calories per day, and those with insulin resistance needed even less"
    • Posts: 15,317 Member
      emhunter wrote: »
      @UltimateRBF on second thought, here is just one link. But people should ask docs and find out for themselves.

      http://www.pcosdietsupport.com/pcos-symptoms/weight-loss-with-pcos/

      You need a better link then that one. They are selling you stuff that you want to hear, nothing more.
    • Posts: 6,652 Member
      emhunter wrote: »
      @DeguelloTex it is possible. I have done it. Many times.
      No, you haven't. You're lying or mistaken. Those are the two possibilities.

    • Posts: 12,344 Member
      Sorry I helped derail your thread, OP. Glad you got some answers.
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    • Posts: 12,942 Member
      edited September 2015
      emhunter wrote: »
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      I was giving the OP an option of what possibly could be causing her scale issues or stall. I didn't just tell her it could just be a fluctuation or eat less. That's basic. She knows that.

      As for the equation you state, I've had an active and resting metabolic test to tell me how much I can eat and I eat well below that AND workout. It doesn't change my scale if I have simple carbs.
      Em, if you are not losing weight by those numbers they gave you then (1) either your numbers are incorrect or (2) you are eating more than you realize. It's not like you eat a carb and your body says it's going to gain weight. That's just not how it works.
    • Posts: 12,942 Member
      DeguelloTex wrote: »
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      You know it's not possible to eat below RMR and not have your scale change, right? That's basic. You should know that.

      This is spot on. Why was it flagged? It is basic.
    • Posts: 356 Member
      I think it's actually easy to eat MORE when you start measuring if you aren't accurately weighing. Sometimes when we see we have '200' calories left, we might say, nice I can have peanut butter but then mis-measure it and suddenly its 450 calories. That adds up at the end of the week. If you're also overestimating your calorie burns and eating those back, welp there you go.
    • Posts: 12,942 Member
      lizzocat wrote: »
      I think it's actually easy to eat MORE when you start measuring if you aren't accurately weighing. Sometimes when we see we have '200' calories left, we might say, nice I can have peanut butter but then mis-measure it and suddenly its 450 calories. That adds up at the end of the week. If you're also overestimating your calorie burns and eating those back, welp there you go.

      Yes....Just YES!! Easy as pie (desert is coming up soon. :D) to make the mistake of underestimating calories in. :)
    • Posts: 25,763 Member
      emhunter wrote: »
      @janejellyroll im using bread as an example because regular white bread is not a complex carb.

      You have been misinformed. White bread is a complex carbohydrate.
    • Posts: 28,055 Member
      Reerdaber wrote: »
      After being on the birth control pill and a trip across Europe, I put on a couple of kilos.

      I had been eating healthy and exercising for around 4 to 5 weeks afterwards, stopped the pill, and didn't lose a single pound, so I decided last week to calorie count...

      I have been counting to about 1400 calories and have been exercising a few times a week but now I am putting ON WEIGHT! Ive put on a kilo since I started :'(

      I have just had my hormones tested and the doctor wants me to go and get another one (didn't say why).... What is going on here??

      It's so discouraging :(

      Sorry if I missed this, but are you eating back all your exercise calories? Many people here suggest you eat back no more than 50% of the calories you earn from exercise.

      Unless you're using a food scale, it's really easy to underestimate how much you are eating. You don't need sound for the first video posted.

      So, your kilo gain is likely due to some combination of underestimating calories eaten, overestimating calories burned, and normal water weight fluctuations, including those that occur due to ovulation and menstruation.

      There could also be some odd hormonal thing going on, hence the extra test by your doctor, but until you know for sure otherwise, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras or unicorns :)

      Even with a condition like PCOS, there are many posters here with it who do lose weight.

    • Posts: 19 Member
      Hey everybody, I have been dropping weight quite fast now! It was obviously just a fluctuation
    • Posts: 506 Member
      Reerdaber wrote: »
      Hey everybody, I have been dropping weight quite fast now! It was obviously just a fluctuation

      Yay !! Great job sticking with it :)
    • Posts: 3,203 Member
      Reerdaber wrote: »
      Hey everybody, I have been dropping weight quite fast now! It was obviously just a fluctuation

      That's good! Weight can do funky things sometimes, so just get used to it. :) But as long as it's overall a downward trend, you're golden.
    • Posts: 3,498 Member
      Reerdaber wrote: »
      Hey everybody, I have been dropping weight quite fast now! It was obviously just a fluctuation

      Let's put your experience down as a another tick in the "consistent effort + patience = success" column shall we?

      Nice work.
    • Posts: 12,942 Member
      edited September 2015
      Reerdaber wrote: »
      Hey everybody, I have been dropping weight quite fast now! It was obviously just a fluctuation

      That's great. :) Weight does fluctuate, and seeing that can be frustrating. Weight fluctuations are not fat though, they are water only.

      Weight loss really is about eating at a deficit, but how you get there is completely individual. :)
    • Posts: 3,599 Member
      Don't forget about the Wooshes and Squishy Fat stages of weight loss. Sometimes it's not always a steady loss, sometimes it comes in stages. Slow and steady wins the race!
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