I do what with butter...?

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  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    If you eat more protein than the body can metabolise, you expel it in the usual way. All foods are converted in to glucose for energy, other than fiber, which cannot be absorbed and is expelled in the usual way.
  • OyGeeBiv
    OyGeeBiv Posts: 733 Member
    @Mallybear2020 if you really believe you need to be low carb AND low protein, no wonder you're eating butter. Others have said, and I'll repeat: toss out everything you think you know about nutrition, and start from scratch. We're not all lying to you!
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    edited December 2015
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    So since MFP says this...why should I not expect to NOT gain/maintain weight?
    I went over my carb limit and fat.
    You're all saying I'll lose weight even if I go over?
    BTW: I'm not planning on eating over 1200 calories all the time.
  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
    @64crayons
    Sometimes if you eat too much protein many calories it will get converted and make you gain weight.

    Fixed! If you eat too much fat it will make you gain weight too. You CAN over eat that butter!
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    @Mallybear2020 I implore you to check out group I linked to in my other post. If you want to learn about low carb and the right way to go about it, they will set you on the right path.
  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
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    So since MFP says this...why should I not expect to NOT gain/maintain weight?
    I went over my carb limit and fat.
    You're all saying I'll lose weight even if I go over?

    See the 148 GREEN calories remaining? Why WOULDN'T you expect to lose?
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    @ASKyle
    Because I went over carbs and fat.
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    edited December 2015
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    So since MFP says this...why should I not expect to NOT gain/maintain weight?
    I went over my carb limit and fat.
    You're all saying I'll lose weight even if I go over?
    BTW: I'm not planning on eating over all the time.1200 calories.

    Because, as has been mentioned, gain and loss of fat is entirely and solely dependent on calories in vs calories out. You have calories to spare, so if your logging is accurate, you should expect to lose.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited December 2015
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    So since MFP says this...why should I not expect to NOT gain/maintain weight?
    I went over my carb limit and fat.
    You're all saying I'll lose weight even if I go over?

    You can go over everything but calories and lose weight.

    Technically, you can go over in your calories as well, if your weekly weight loss goal is set to more than maintenance calories.

    So, if you've set your weekly weight loss goal to 2 pounds per week, and went over by 152 calories, you will still lose weight as that 2 pounds per week has a 1,000 calorie deficit per day built in, and while you did not hit that 1,000 deficit, you did make a 848 calorie deficit.

    (ETA - the picture showed an overage of 152 calories earlier. Now it's a 148 calorie deficit.)
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    Then why be given a goal to stick to if it means you can still lose weight no matter how many carbs, fat and protein you take in, just as long as you stay within calories?
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    edited December 2015
    Then why be given a goal to stick to if it means you can still lose weight no matter how many carbs, fat and protein you take in, just as long as you stay within calories?

    Because many people care about more than just the weight. There are numerous health reasons to adopt certain macronutrient %'s, and these will vary person to person, depending on what their goals are, people training for things, or with other health concerns may want to watch their macros carefully.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Then why be given a goal to stick to if it means you can still lose weight no matter how many carbs, fat and protein you take in, just as long as you stay within calories?

    You do realize you can change those goals right? Just like you can change your calorie goal. You have to find what works for you.

    I would suggest giving some of these a read:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1399829/step-by-step-guide-to-losing-weight-with-myfitnesspal
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Then why be given a goal to stick to if it means you can still lose weight no matter how many carbs, fat and protein you take in, just as long as you stay within calories?

    I look at protein (and fiber) as a minimum goal to strive for, not a maximum goal that I should not surpass. I'm always over on fat, which has not affected my weight loss. I try to not surpass carbs as I feel better when I don't, but that's a personal preference.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    You don't have to be in the green on all categories to lose weight. It's not like the body bundles the macros we feed it in to little blocks; a little for this, a little for that. As long as the overall calories are in target you will lose weight. .

    Carbs are converted to glucose.

    "Dietary proteins are first broken down to individual amino acids by various enzymes and hydrochloric acid present in the gastro-intestinal tract.[1] These amino acids are further broken down to α-keto acids which can be recycled in the body for generation of energy, and production of glucose or fat or other amino acids." - Wikipedia

    Fatty acids by long and circuitous route, are also converted to glucose. Wikipedia

    Spares (overall calorie count) are stored in the fat cells.
  • Run_Away_Turtle
    Run_Away_Turtle Posts: 47 Member
    This has been a super entertaining, not to mention educational read.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    @christinev297
    I did. I have to be 'accepted' into the group.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    edited December 2015
    So you're saying for example:
    If my daily calorie goal is 1300, and I eat 60g of Carbs, 80g Fat and 50g protein, and my calories say '1100' I'll still lose weight even with such high carbs AND fat?
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    edited December 2015
    So you're saying for example:
    If my daily calorie goal is 1300, and I eat 60g of Carbs, 80g Fat and 50g protein, and my calories say '1100' I'll still lose weight even with such high carbs?

    Yes, sustained weight loss and gain is entirely dependent on calories in vs calories out.
  • jenathp
    jenathp Posts: 92 Member
    Yes, that's what everyone is saying. This is about calories in and calories out, it doesn't matter what the macro's are...
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    So you're saying for example:
    If my daily calorie goal is 1300, and I eat 60g of Carbs, 80g Fat and 50g protein, and my calories say '1100' I'll still lose weight even with such high carbs AND fat?

    Yup. I'm at 143g carbs and 38 grams fat for the day and haven't had dinner yet, which is going to include puff pastry. I've lost ~65lbs in the last couple of years.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    If this is true, and I'm not saying anyone is lying....then I have lived a damn miserable life for the past 5-8months.
    I'll try it and see if it helps me lose weight.
    I just don't understand if someone's doing low carb diet in order to lose weight, and gets enough calories in...why shouldn't they eat all the carbs they want?
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    edited December 2015
    If this is true, and I'm not saying anyone is lying....then I have lived a damn miserable life for the past 5-8months.
    I'll try it and see if it helps me lose weight.
    I just don't understand if someone's doing low carb diet in order to lose weight, and gets enough calories in...why shouldn't they eat all the carbs they want?

    Most people aren't doing low carb to lose weight, they are doing it for other health reasons, or personal preference in how they like to fill their calorie allowance, or based on the demands placed on them by their lifestyle/goals.

    Another common reason to go low carb is that some people find it helps to eliminate or reduce their sugar cravings, which may have resulted in them going over their calorie allowance in the past.

    Another reason would be people who compete in competitions with weight classes. They often go low carb during part of their training camp to cut some water weight, as they want every last fraction of a pound of muscle they can in their weight division.
  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
    If this is true, and I'm not saying anyone is lying....then I have lived a damn miserable life for the past 5-8months.
    I'll try it and see if it helps me lose weight.
    I just don't understand if someone's doing low carb diet in order to lose weight, and gets enough calories in...why shouldn't they eat all the carbs they want?

    Personal preference. Some people prefer to eat low carb and find in easier to meet their daily calorie goal by eating this way.

    Find what works for you to meet your calories. It sounds like low carb is pretty miserable so far, so try something else!
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    @Mallybear2020 I implore you to check out group I linked to in my other post. If you want to learn about low carb and the right way to go about it, they will set you on the right path.

    This OP has so many false beliefs about weight loss in general, I think she needs to get her basic understanding of how the energy balance works, rather than joining a specific group.

    OP, as people have been trying to explain to you, calories are a unit of energy. You burn calories all day long just being alive, and the amount burned increases with increased activity (whether purposeful exercise or an active job, going dancing, etc). The total number of calories you burn in a day is your TDEE, your maintenance calorie level. If you eat less calories than your TDEE, you will lose weight, regardless if those calories are made up of primarily carbs, fat, or protein. The balance between those macro nutrients can help lead to satiety and sustainability with a way of eating, but the bottom line is that if your maintenance calories are 1800, you can eat anything under that and you will lose weight.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    Well I expect to see major results with this then!!
    I'll make a post in a few days talking about if it worked for me. I'll entitle it either 'It didn't work' or 'It worked'
    So far I'm 125lbs...and have worked hard to get here. So if ya'lls way doesn't work I'm going to be pissed and hold you all accountable for my weight gain.
    Thank you ALL for listening to my rant and what maybe seems to be MY possible ignorance.
  • OyGeeBiv
    OyGeeBiv Posts: 733 Member
    If this is true, and I'm not saying anyone is lying....then I have lived a damn miserable life for the past 5-8months.
    I'll try it and see if it helps me lose weight.

    Honestly, I had a hard time with this too at first. I'd done the low carb thing years ago, lost a boatload of weight, and then gained it ALL back again -and more- the minute I started eating more carbs again. It wasn't sustainable for me.

    This time around, I need to lose the weight and keep it off. I'm so DONE with fads and yoyo'ing. So I'm doing a balanced diet. I'm sticking to the basic recommendations MFP is giving me, and so far so good. I've committed to doing it this way until the end of the year, to see if it's really working or if I need to tweak anything. That's only 31 more days. As it stands now, I have no intention of changing my eating plan in the new year, because I'm losing weight at a slow and steady-enough pace. My goal isn't to lose weight fast, it's to lose and keep it off forever.

    Are you willing to give it a try for 31 days?
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    edited December 2015
    Well I expect to see major results with this then!!
    I'll make a post in a few days talking about if it worked for me. I'll entitle it either 'It didn't work' or 'It worked'
    So far I'm 125lbs...and have worked hard to get here. So if ya'lls way doesn't work I'm going to be pissed and hold you all accountable for my weight gain.
    Thank you ALL for listening to my rant and what maybe seems to be MY possible ignorance.

    No problem, we are here to help! But I do need to point out, a few days is just not enough, if you're currently low carbing, and go 'regular carb' you WILL gain water weight, but there is a limit to how much you will gain, it wont keep going on and on. Just don't panic when the scale goes up at first, it's water, not fat.

    Scenario: a person (who always eats under their calorie allowance) eats 200g of carbs per day for a month, then switches to 300g of carbs per day for a month. During the first few days (3-5? Someone correct me there!) they will gain some water weight but no fat, then it will stop, because they have the appropriate amount of water weight stored for that carb level. The other 25 or so days of the month, they will start to lose body fat and the weight will start going down again.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    edited December 2015
    I struggle with calories, but your eating habits sound like a recipe for disaster.

    put the butter in hot sauce and make buffalo chicken. eat/drink full fat dairy. cook with oil. eat peanut butter. eat avocados. I have 2 hardboiled eggs, avocado, tomato and shredded cheese for breakfast. It's awesome, low calorie, low carb, good fat. Sometimes I add an Engligh muffin to the mix.

    Pasta breads and candy doesn't make you gain weight... over eating pasta, breads and candy does. 2 oz of dry spaghetti isn't very much, but that is one serving.

    If your feeling sick at night, there is something else going on. Go see a doctor. A diet by itself won't do that.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I'm on a lowish carb diet, just try to stay below 100g. I started this because i was sick of constantly being hungry and counting down the minutes to my next meal, even though I was eating what is thought of as the most satiating carb choices.
    Now I am happy and full and don't have the burden of thinking about food, food, food all day long. My cravings for sweets has also dramatically diminished.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    Have you thought about checking out the IIFYM group? You seem more concerned about macros than calories so that might be a good method for you. They'll be able to provide you with good info too.