People That Think Low-Carb is Good For You are Wrong

OMP33
OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
edited January 2016 in Food and Nutrition
Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.
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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
  • feisty_bucket
    feisty_bucket Posts: 1,047 Member
    Trolling? I can't tell. Let's hear some more of these nutritional insights, pls.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    What would you like insight on? I'm actually serious too, people are so uninformed about the fitness and nutrition industry.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,321 Member
    High carb is no better. I am not for any specific type of eating, except for the one that allows a person to maintain a reasonable amount to calories.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    edited January 2016
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    High carb is no better. I am not for any specific type of eating, except for the one that allows a person to maintain a reasonable amount to calories.

    It's much better than a LCHF diet for sure.
  • opycha wrote: »
    What would you like insight on? I'm actually serious too, people are so uninformed about the fitness and nutrition industry.

    You're 19. Exactly how much experience in the industry do you have? Genuine question.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight

    Excess calories consumed cause fat gain, regardless of the source.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    Well you're wrong ..and your protein and fats are too low for a grown man unless you are very small

    And I am not low carb

    opycha wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight

    Rubbish ...excess calories over TDEE cause weight gain
  • Last_mango_in_paradise
    Last_mango_in_paradise Posts: 48 Member
    edited January 2016
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    Ohhhh. So because you said we have to be a vegan/vegetarian we all now must jump on the bandwagon?

    Sorry but I'd rather eat steak, bacon, ribs and burgers and still live life to the fullest.

    Oh and FYI: you can get high cholesterol on your vegan/vegetarian diet. It has nothing to do with eating meat. A lot of people with high cholesterol have it because of their genetics, not their diet. And also, just because your TOTAL cholesterol numbers are high doesn't mean squat. The LDL/HDL/Tri's are what you should be looking at. If those are in check then there's no issue.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    Well you're wrong ..and your protein and fats are too low for a grown man unless you are very small

    And I am not low carb

    opycha wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight

    Rubbish ...excess calories over TDEE cause weight gain

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/apr/protein.htm
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    opycha wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight

    If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.


    But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
  • feisty_bucket
    feisty_bucket Posts: 1,047 Member
    I prefer the wisdom of the Breatharians. Enter the fifth dimension and live off of air. Food is lame.


    http://www.breatharian.com/wileybrooks.html
  • morganter
    morganter Posts: 4 Member
    I am watching "my diet is better than your diet" on ABC and from what I can tell -- the guy who is on the no diet is winning. It is not what you are eating-- well unless you are eating tons of cookies and ice cream and diet soda--but it is more in how much we are eating and the fact that we are not moving. Crazy diet things like adding Chia seeds or eating quinoa all the time-- seriously-- when you are not dieting-- you are not going to continue to eat that stuff. So I am starting the no diet diet-- and watching my portions -- we all eat way too much at one time, and I am trying to exercise/move more. The solution to weight loss is really simple -- eat less, move more. We are just pretty much a lazy society that does not move much --how many of you drive around until you get a closer parking spot to the store entrance, or drive your kid to the bus stop, or go to the drive-in fast food window? And we eat too much -- do you super size at the fast food restaurant? Do you eat the huge portion served at the restaurant? Do you pile too much food on your plate at dinner or too much cereal in that bowl at breakfast? We consume Big Gulps and triple scoop ice cream cones. We all need to watch the amount we take in and try to move more than we are currently doing.
  • Red13
    Red13 Posts: 287 Member
    Some people eat low carb for certain conditions. I do it for PCOS and the calories DO matter via the source for me. Everyone is different
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  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    Ohhhh. So because you said we have to be a vegan/vegetarian we all now must jump on the bandwagon?

    Sorry but I'd rather eat steak, bacon, ribs and burgers and still live life to the fullest.

    Oh and FYI: you can get high cholesterol on your vegan/vegetarian diet. It has nothing to do with eating meat. A lot of people with high cholesterol have it because of their genetics, not their diet. And also, just because your TOTAL cholesterol numbers are high doesn't mean squat. The LDL/HDL/Tri's are what you should be looking at. If those are in check then there's no issue.

    Steak, bacon, ribs, and burgers have ungodly amounts of fats and high cholesterol levels. That can lead to heart disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17364116
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight

    If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.


    But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.

    Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    Your body does not run off carbs. Your brain and other parts need glucose. Your body can make glucose from other foods.
    Dietary cholesterol is no longer seen as a concern in blood cholesterol levels.
    Fats and protein are essential to the human body where carbs aren't.

    And I too love my carbs, plant based or other wise.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.

    Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.

    Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.

    Eating meat isn't a personal choice so I wont let "them do them".
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    opycha wrote: »
    Why must we always be telling others what to eat?

    I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.

    Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight

    If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.


    But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.

    Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying

    So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    I call Poe.
  • cessi0909
    cessi0909 Posts: 654 Member
    But, I like fat. :) Appreciate what you are trying to do but I eat a diet rather high in fats, also rather high in carbs, and don't plan on changing that
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.

    Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.

    Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.

    High cholesterol from meat can lead to atherosclerosis, so yes, it does hurt in the long term --http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16270280
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.

    Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.

    Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.

    Eating meat isn't a personal choice so I wont let "them do them".

    Huh? <scratches head>
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,321 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.

    Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.

    Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.

    Eating meat isn't a personal choice so I wont let "them do them".

    That is your problem isn't it. Eating meat is a personal choice, but you want to infringe on the choices of others. Good luck with that.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    Your body does not run off carbs. Your brain and other parts need glucose. Your body can make glucose from other foods.
    Dietary cholesterol is no longer seen as a concern in blood cholesterol levels.
    Fats and protein are essential to the human body where carbs aren't.

    And I too love my carbs, plant based or other wise.

    Yeah you're right, carbs are not important at as they provide us with the energy we need to survive and why we have carb-digestive enzymes in our mouth where we don't have protein or fat enzymes.
  • MaternalCopulator
    MaternalCopulator Posts: 125 Member
    Oh look, another special snowflake...
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