Juicing fast?

give your digestive system a break

it immediately flushes you with more nutrients than you could ever eat in a day

emmycantbemeeko wrote: »

100% of study participants who gave their heart and lungs a break found they never gained any weight ever again.

You might be on to something here, @snickerscharlie...

emmycantbemeeko wrote: »

Plenty of doctors have endorsed things that are weakly supported or well-established to be ineffective or even dangerous, whether through ignorance (medical school actually isn't all that nutrition-intensive, and few doctors have the time or inclination to keep up with all the latest research outside their own specialty once they're in practice) or for more malicious/greedy reasons. Like selling bogus diet tricks to those who assume that nothing a doctor recommends could be wrong.

Certainly any medical professional supporting juice "cleanses" (or in fact *any* type of "cleanse") is either in ignorance of the (total lack of) science behind it or, much more likely, stands to benefit in some way from people deciding to juice fast. This is really, really settled science.

We know how the gut works- it doesn't need "rests" for anyone who isn't suffering from a hospitalization-worthy intestinal blockage.

We know that taking in massive amounts of juice does not provide any health benefits beyond what would normally be associated with drinking some juice (ie, some vitamins and minerals that would be similarly available if the person ate the whole fruit or vegetable in question, plus they'd get some fiber in the bargain).

We know that consuming nothing but sugary liquids spikes your blood sugar and consuming no protein, fat, or fiber for days is not good for you.

We know that you can't sustain an all-juice diet very long and that people who crash diet (and that's what a juice fast is) see short term weight loss but do not keep it off for very long, and do not tend to change their regular eating habits afterward.

You're right that this isn't a debate- this is really basic nutrition and a&P 101 stuff.

It's a lot easier to make money telling people that there's a sexy, quick, exotic solution to their weight loss problems than telling them the truth: that it's a matter of eating fewer calories than you burn until you're a normal weight, and then eating the same number of calories you burn, forever. Full stop. That's unsexy and intimidating despite being completely true. Little wonder some doctors suggest crazy diets like juice "cleanses". It makes patients happy, it sells books, it gets you daytime talk shows.

Look at all the pseudoscientific nonsense Dr. Oz promotes. One doctor recommending something- especially one doctor recommending something he sells in a public forum as a panacea- is not evidence of something's effectiveness, it's evidence that doctor is, in the less generous interpretation, willing to say things that aren't true for money, and in the more generous interpretation, hasn't bothered to do any research.

Your own posts speak to what's wrong with juice fasts- you say you lost weight, but you put some back on. You say it changed your eating habits and mindset for the better- but you're back in the same patterns now, enough to feel like you need to repeat the fast.

You can claim it changed you, but the results speak for themselves- it didn't create a permanent change. You *didn't* change your mindset. You may have felt good at some points on the cleanse- hunger sometimes morphs in to a kind of euphoria- and you may have thought more carefully about your food while you were still in the virtuous-feeling afterglow of your week of self-imposed hunger, but within a short time, you were back to overeating steak dinners and drinking whiskey in amounts that caused more weight gain. You didn't learn anything about what's actually good for your body, and you didn't change your daily behavior, so despite your insistence that it "changed" you, you're back to the cleanse. Why would you need to repeat something that changed your behavior for the better? If last year you'd done no cleanse at all but simply started eating at a moderate deficit and kept it up, you'd be down now instead of up "about two pounds," and never have to worry about starving yourself on juice again.

brittny0627 wrote: »

This really isn't a debate. Many people have different opinions on the topic and I'm just expressing my experience. There's a ton of medical information for both sides of the argument and I've read through a lot of it. I'm basing it on my experience and my opinions. I'm not alone in my experience nor positive feelings towards short term juicing in general. There are options from both medical professionals and nutritionists against and for juice fasting. I don't believe in extended fasting but I'm firm in my belief of shorter term juice fasting. We could pull up and quote stats from both sides all day but there's no need. I'm speaking from my experience. You should check out some of the things others who have done it have to say (both positive and negative).

Heres an MD

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/woodson-merrell-md/juice-cleanses_b_4549641.html

Here's a skeptics who tried a pre made 3 day (which I dont support) opinion on it. Read her last few paragraphs.

brianpperkins wrote: »

brittny0627 wrote: »

tincanonastring wrote: »

brittny0627 wrote: »

I actually think it is all it's cracked up to be. I'm doing my second one now on day 3. Did one last year I think I did 8-10 days or something. I lost 9 lbs (nod I'm not a big girl) and I felt Better. It made me stop eating all the junk food I started eating. If you want to lose a few and get healthy it's a good idea. If you don't want to lose weight you can drink more than the usual juice amount!!

If it worked so well, why do you have to do another one?

mkakids wrote: »

Many vegetables contain protein.

How could you meet protein needs for 10 days using vegetable juice?

Hahaha
Wellll lol great question and I can answer it easily. Since I did the 8 or whatever day juice fast last year I've maybe put like 2 lbs on. I'm not doing it to lose weight this time. Only doing 5 days. I'm doing it this time because as a new attorney, I've been going to way too many after work, whiskey filled, steak house dinners. I've managed to maintain but I'm not in the same healthy eating mindset I used to be in. Sooo juice fasting really helps change that mentally and give your digestive system a break. Plus, it immediately flushes you with more nutrients than you could ever eat in a day. That's why!


And to the other question......
Tons of fruit and veggies have protein as well as healthy fats, and I don't just mean avocados. Plus some people have a handful of almonds or whatever nut while juicing.

The first two things in bold are misstatements. The last, in context, fails miserably. Your final sentence requires breaking the "juice fast" thereby undermining the concept.

What misstatements do you speak of? "First two things" meaning my personal experience and life? What would my motive be for commenting initially, if Its BS. You're incorrect, I spoke about my life. Let's hear about your PERSONAL nutrition goals so I can refute them as well! Aside from that, every persons body obviously react differently. If someone finds themselves reacting negatively due to lack of protein (like a weight lifter used to high levels more or whoever) during the beginning days, many juicing regimens/recommendations from advocates say to have a handful of nuts. I've never had to so I can't speak on that besides what I've read about it. I personally did not create the juicing concept just giving my experience. thanks