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melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
Do you see any chemicals in either of these?
Yes. Well, I don't actually see anything but a picture, but yes, there are chemicals in there.
OMG... If there were chemicals, it would be listed in the ingredients! Like this picture...
Is it a trick question? Are you serious???
You might want to pause and look up the definition of "chemical" before continuing down this road.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
The butter from my local dairy has cream and salt which I guess is technically a chemical, NaCl. Butter for me any day, but I use so little any more.
If cream is not comprised of chemicals, what then?
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
The butter from my local dairy has cream and salt which I guess is technically a chemical, NaCl. Butter for me any day, but I use so little any more.
If cream is not comprised of chemicals, what then?
Where are you trying to go with this?
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janejellyroll wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
Do you see any chemicals in either of these?
Yes. Well, I don't actually see anything but a picture, but yes, there are chemicals in there.
OMG... If there were chemicals, it would be listed in the ingredients! Like this picture...
Is it a trick question? Are you serious???
You might want to pause and look up the definition of "chemical" before continuing down this road.
You might want to learn how to take things in context. Also, think about why you want to spend your time arguing in a weight loss forum. You are another one on here looking to argue. I'm not. All set. I have better things to do with my time.
I gave the OP some valuable information. You do what you want. Good luck in your journey. Have a nice day.0 -
I like butter for baking! On toast or a grilled cheese. I use brummel and brown yogurt butter. It's still margarine, but doesn't have as much as an aftertaste IMHO.0
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melissa6771 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
Do you see any chemicals in either of these?
Yes. Well, I don't actually see anything but a picture, but yes, there are chemicals in there.
OMG... If there were chemicals, it would be listed in the ingredients! Like this picture...
Is it a trick question? Are you serious???
You might want to pause and look up the definition of "chemical" before continuing down this road.
You might want to learn how to take things in context. Also, think about why you want to spend your time arguing in a weight loss forum. You are another one on here looking to argue. I'm not. All set. I have better things to do with my time.
I gave the OP some valuable information. You do what you want. Good luck in your journey. Have a nice day.
If "in context" you mean you're using an alternate definition of the word, it might be helpful if you shared the definition you're using. It can only cause confusion when people are using a word differently than everyone else in a conversation.
I'm not looking to argue with you -- I just value accurate information. If you don't wish to discuss the substance of your claims about "efficiency" and "chemicials" (whatever you mean by those words), that's fine. It's your choice. You might want to think about why you would want to make claims online that are difficult to support. I find it interesting that you had time for this conversation when you thought your claims wouldn't be challenged, but when people asked a few questions, you suddenly have better things to do than discuss them.
I hope you have a nice day as well.0 -
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You guys are really nitpicking here. What I think @melissa6771 is trying to get at is that butter is all natural; it's made from milk and sometimes salt. Whereas margarine was originally made in a lab and has lots of added ingredients, a lot of which some people prefer not to include in their diets, myself included.
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michelle172415 wrote: »You guys are really nitpicking here. What I think @melissa6771 is trying to get at is that butter is all natural; it's made from milk and sometimes salt. Whereas margarine was originally made in a lab and has lots of added ingredients, a lot of which some people prefer not to include in their diets, myself included.
Which margarine are you talking about?0 -
melissa6771 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
Do you see any chemicals in either of these?
Yes. Well, I don't actually see anything but a picture, but yes, there are chemicals in there.
OMG... If there were chemicals, it would be listed in the ingredients! Like this picture...
Is it a trick question? Are you serious???
You might want to pause and look up the definition of "chemical" before continuing down this road.
You might want to learn how to take things in context. Also, think about why you want to spend your time arguing in a weight loss forum. You are another one on here looking to argue. I'm not. All set. I have better things to do with my time.
I gave the OP some valuable information. You do what you want. Good luck in your journey. Have a nice day.
I think what gets missed in these discussions is the danger of saying things without thinking of the implications of blindly accepting things that you've read before, or things that seem to make sense but haven't been critically evaluated. When someone says that everything is composed of chemicals, it's not to be difficult or catch you in a battle of wordplay. But there is so much fearmongering around the "dangers" of chemicals, and things that we can't pronounce, etc. When someone points out the absurdity of this, it's not to be difficult or argumentative. It's to shed light on the fact that no - chemicals are not prima facie bad. If you're going to say that a particular chemical is bad, your reason can't be that it's hard to pronounce if you want to be taken seriously. It has to be based on solid evidence or there's no reason you should expect others to accept it.
I think these kinds of objections are great for critical thinking skills. It doesn't mean the objector is necessarily right and you are wrong, but it could help you to see that maybe you are accepting principles without giving them the appropriate evaluation.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »You guys are really nitpicking here. What I think @melissa6771 is trying to get at is that butter is all natural; it's made from milk and sometimes salt. Whereas margarine was originally made in a lab and has lots of added ingredients, a lot of which some people prefer not to include in their diets, myself included.
People are nitpicking because of the original opI have read so much about these two things and I still don't know which is better to eat.
Melissa is implying that butter is better than margarine, so people are asking her why.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »You guys are really nitpicking here. What I think @melissa6771 is trying to get at is that butter is all natural; it's made from milk and sometimes salt. Whereas margarine was originally made in a lab and has lots of added ingredients, a lot of which some people prefer not to include in their diets, myself included.
A preference is fine. I also prefer certain foods to others and there are things I prefer not to eat at all.
But when someone is answering someone who is asking "which is better to eat?" and your answer is grounded in a personal preference, don't try to make it sound like more with scare-mongering about "chemicals."0 -
To answer the OP, the "better" one is one that you like the taste of and the one that fits your overall calorie goals.0
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missyfitz1 wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
Do you see any chemicals in either of these?
Yes. Well, I don't actually see anything but a picture, but yes, there are chemicals in there.
OMG... If there were chemicals, it would be listed in the ingredients! Like this picture...
Is it a trick question? Are you serious???
You might want to pause and look up the definition of "chemical" before continuing down this road.
You might want to learn how to take things in context. Also, think about why you want to spend your time arguing in a weight loss forum. You are another one on here looking to argue. I'm not. All set. I have better things to do with my time.
I gave the OP some valuable information. You do what you want. Good luck in your journey. Have a nice day.
I think what gets missed in these discussions is the danger of saying things without thinking of the implications of blindly accepting things that you've read before, or things that seem to make sense but haven't been critically evaluated. When someone says that everything is composed of chemicals, it's not to be difficult or catch you in a battle of wordplay. But there is so much fearmongering around the "dangers" of chemicals, and things that we can't pronounce, etc. When someone points out the absurdity of this, it's not to be difficult or argumentative. It's to shed light on the fact that no - chemicals are not prima facie bad. If you're going to say that a particular chemical is bad, your reason can't be that it's hard to pronounce if you want to be taken seriously. It has to be based on solid evidence or there's no reason you should expect others to accept it.
I think these kinds of objections are great for critical thinking skills. It doesn't mean the objector is necessarily right and you are wrong, but it could help you to see that maybe you are accepting principles without giving them the appropriate evaluation.
Well, in the case of margarine, a lot are made with Canola Oil which is a GMO vegetable oil that is partially hydrogenated, something I personally prefer to avoid.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
The butter from my local dairy has cream and salt which I guess is technically a chemical, NaCl. Butter for me any day, but I use so little any more.
If cream is not comprised of chemicals, what then?
Where are you trying to go with this?
Round and round.
You're making me dizzy, so quit!0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »You guys are really nitpicking here. What I think @melissa6771 is trying to get at is that butter is all natural; it's made from milk and sometimes salt. Whereas margarine was originally made in a lab and has lots of added ingredients, a lot of which some people prefer not to include in their diets, myself included.
A preference is fine. I also prefer certain foods to others and there are things I prefer not to eat at all.
But when someone is answering someone who is asking "which is better to eat?" and your answer is grounded in a personal preference, don't try to make it sound like more with scare-mongering about "chemicals."
Not to mention woo about your body "not knowing how to process chemicals", etc. That's the same ridiculous line of argument people make about aspartame, apparently being ignorant of the fact that aspartame is composed of two amino acids commonly found in many other foods.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »missyfitz1 wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Tropical_Turtle wrote: »margarine is a chemical sh*tstorm... just sayin. Butter is natural and better for you in moderation
No chemicals in butter? Are you sure about that?
Do you see any chemicals in either of these?
Yes. Well, I don't actually see anything but a picture, but yes, there are chemicals in there.
OMG... If there were chemicals, it would be listed in the ingredients! Like this picture...
Is it a trick question? Are you serious???
You might want to pause and look up the definition of "chemical" before continuing down this road.
You might want to learn how to take things in context. Also, think about why you want to spend your time arguing in a weight loss forum. You are another one on here looking to argue. I'm not. All set. I have better things to do with my time.
I gave the OP some valuable information. You do what you want. Good luck in your journey. Have a nice day.
I think what gets missed in these discussions is the danger of saying things without thinking of the implications of blindly accepting things that you've read before, or things that seem to make sense but haven't been critically evaluated. When someone says that everything is composed of chemicals, it's not to be difficult or catch you in a battle of wordplay. But there is so much fearmongering around the "dangers" of chemicals, and things that we can't pronounce, etc. When someone points out the absurdity of this, it's not to be difficult or argumentative. It's to shed light on the fact that no - chemicals are not prima facie bad. If you're going to say that a particular chemical is bad, your reason can't be that it's hard to pronounce if you want to be taken seriously. It has to be based on solid evidence or there's no reason you should expect others to accept it.
I think these kinds of objections are great for critical thinking skills. It doesn't mean the objector is necessarily right and you are wrong, but it could help you to see that maybe you are accepting principles without giving them the appropriate evaluation.
Well, in the case of margarine, a lot are made with Canola Oil which is a GMO vegetable oil that is partially hydrogenated, something I personally prefer to avoid.
The margarine I eat is GMO-free (not that it matters to me, it just happens to be).0 -
That banana was clearly made in a lab in a chemical vat. *shudder*0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »You guys are really nitpicking here. What I think @melissa6771 is trying to get at is that butter is all natural; it's made from milk and sometimes salt. Whereas margarine was originally made in a lab and has lots of added ingredients, a lot of which some people prefer not to include in their diets, myself included.
Which margarine are you talking about?
All of them when compared to the ingredients of butter. My preference is to eat foods as close to the natural source as possible. Not to say that I always do, but at least 80% of the time I'm able to successfully make that choice. In this case, I prefer the food with two natural ingredients that I can pronounce and describe without looking them up in the dictionary.
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