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  • auddiiauddii Posts: 15,410Member Member Posts: 15,410Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    I ate a sandwich almost every day for lunch while I was losing.

    You're repeating a lot of old myths and lists from bad sources, trusting sources that confirm your existing beliefs while ignoring the personal experiences, studies, and science that others are offering.

    I almost feel like this is Microsofts second attempt at an AI. Especially since she responds to her own posts and answers the same posts in very different ways multiple times.
  • senecarrsenecarr Posts: 5,377Member Member Posts: 5,377Member Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    So I can't eat spaghetti without gaining weight because why? Because I have a vagina???

    News to me. Not about me having a vagina...

    Naw, I think it is the estrogen. You'll get to try spaghetti once you're menopausal.

    I actually think the underlying assumption from the OP is men can eat spaghetti and carbs because they do manual labor...but not the delicate women folk.

    Looking at my daily fitbit count.....

    You trying to goad me into going for a walk? :)
  • senecarrsenecarr Posts: 5,377Member Member Posts: 5,377Member Member
    auddii wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    I ate a sandwich almost every day for lunch while I was losing.

    You're repeating a lot of old myths and lists from bad sources, trusting sources that confirm your existing beliefs while ignoring the personal experiences, studies, and science that others are offering.

    I almost feel like this is Microsofts second attempt at an AI. Especially since she responds to her own posts and answers the same posts in very different ways multiple times.

    Well by that standard, the lack of racism is an improvement.
  • lemurcat12lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886Member Member Posts: 30,886Member Member
    Spaghetti is not my favorite pasta, but I ate lots of pasta and sauce when losing weight. The only sugar in it was from the vegetables/tomatoes, also.

    While I do, in fact, do a good bit of exercise, I actually found pasta with a lean meat and vegetables to be a fine low cal dinner that fit into my day even when I was more sedentary. Of course, being no longer sedentary (even if one of those women-folk) makes it easier.
  • HornsbyHornsby Posts: 10,372Member Member Posts: 10,372Member Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Spaghetti is not my favorite pasta, but I ate lots of pasta and sauce when losing weight. The only sugar in it was from the vegetables/tomatoes, also.

    While I do, in fact, do a good bit of exercise, I actually found pasta with a lean meat and vegetables to be a fine low cal dinner that fit into my day even when I was more sedentary. Of course, being no longer sedentary (even if one of those women-folk) makes it easier.

    Oh hush, and get back in the kitchen.
  • KnM0107KnM0107 Posts: 357Member Member Posts: 357Member Member
    Can I eat bread and pasta if I am a woman with a manual labor job?

    Not really looking for an answer. I ate bread and pasta while losing and I eat them now that I am maintaining.
  • ClosetBayesianClosetBayesian Posts: 834Member Member Posts: 834Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say at this point. Some of your posts seem to be saying that if you eat junk food you can't lose weight, but in other posts you seem to be saying that everyone will eat junk food occasionally at that's okay.

    All any of us are saying is that calories are the only thing that matters for weight loss, "junk food" is okay in the context of an otherwise balanced diet, but types of food eaten can affect satiety, body comp, and health.

    Depends not all have the same metabilism if your goal is to just lose weight then eat whatever suits you fit if you believe you can lose weight just by eating junk food... bread spaghetti exc... i dont think you will some people just eat whatever and they are still skinny... but are they healthy... who knows in order to lose weight on my point of view is eating many times a day small portions and avoiding the junk food... if you eat every now and then a cheeseburger or whatever food you crave doesnt mean all the hard work you have done will set you back changing eating habbits is hard this is why when you change your menue of list of food and then go back to your old eating habbits with no consequences you will put that weight back losing weight is the easy part but keeping it is the hard

    OP, do you know what a calorie is? Do you understand what a calorie deficit is?
  • mathjulzmathjulz Posts: 5,550Member Member Posts: 5,550Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.
  • mathjulzmathjulz Posts: 5,550Member Member Posts: 5,550Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    Oh, also, most of the bread that I eat has 1-2 g of sugar per slice. How is that high sugar? (The spaghetti part was addressed already by lemurcat)
  • WinoGelatoWinoGelato Posts: 13,331Member Member Posts: 13,331Member Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    I agree its not about losing weight more than maintaining a healthy diet of course

    What do you mean?

    Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back

    And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!

    If the eating less you're doing becomes your routine, no, no you don't gain back. That's kind of how the whole thing works. cwolfman13 literally explained it above with his own numbers.

    Its hard to maintain not impossible just hard..m its like eating less makes your stomach smaller then you just start eating less.... but the thing is.... is our goal to eat less or to eat healthier ..... eating less is not the solution for dieting im sorry but im against it i believe eating small portions many times a day will help you lose more calories than just once a day depending what you eat and its like anorexia how do people start.....eating less then not eating at all

    You can be against it all you want but the fact remains that in order to lose weight a person needs to be in a calorie deficit, and that can be done eating several small meals, one big meal, it can be done by eating any type of food as well.

    CICO is indisputable.

    What you seem to be mixing up is calorie deficit, nutrition, satiety, adherence, and long term maintenance. You keep saying that if people don't change the way they eat then they will gain all the weight back. While it's true that some people struggle maintaining long term success rates with weight loss - the tools that people have at their reach today (calorie counting sites like this one, activity trackers like FitBit) I think will make those success rates go up. Combine that with the fact that the people who use sites like this while they are losing learn new habits, such as portion control and moderation, so that they are better able to successfully transition into maintenance.

    The people who have responded here have collectively lost hundreds of pounds and kept them off for years using exactly the techniques you insist won't work.

    I'm requoting myself for emphasis since it seems to be the theme here that you can quote yourself and talk to yourself in this thread.

    OP - you are trying to argue points that make no sense from a scientific, or even a logic perspective. You are saying things like "you can't lose weight if you eat junk" or "you can lose weight but you won't be healthy" or "you can lose weight but you won't have a good body". Have you looked at the avatars of the people you are arguing with in this thread? Have you visited anyone's profile page to see how much weight they've lost? Read their stories to understand how their health markers have improved and how they have reversed things like high cholesterol, pre-diabetes, etc - simply by losing weight and eating a balanced, primarily nutrient dense diet within a calorie deficit - but not excluding things like McDonalds, which you now say is poison? If it were poison, would any of us be alive to be posting here today?



  • ginamcyginamcy Posts: 74Member Member Posts: 74Member Member
    mathjulz wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.

    Are you trying to be a body builder... are you saying that a mans metabilism and a womens is the same men lose weight easier then women ... if you dont lose weight first and just skip that part...your fat will become muscle
  • ClosetBayesianClosetBayesian Posts: 834Member Member Posts: 834Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    mathjulz wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.

    Are you trying to be a body builder... are you saying that a mans metabilism and a womens is the same men lose weight easier then women ... if you dont lose weight first and just skip that part...your fat will become muscle

    Fat does not magically become muscle.
  • ginamcyginamcy Posts: 74Member Member Posts: 74Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    mathjulz wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.

    Are you trying to be a body builder... are you saying that a mans metabilism and a womens is the same men lose weight easier then women ... if you dont lose weight first and just skip that part...your fat will become muscle

    Fat does not magically become muscle.

    If you lift massive amount of weight it does
  • ClosetBayesianClosetBayesian Posts: 834Member Member Posts: 834Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    mathjulz wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.

    Are you trying to be a body builder... are you saying that a mans metabilism and a womens is the same men lose weight easier then women ... if you dont lose weight first and just skip that part...your fat will become muscle

    Fat does not magically become muscle.

    If you lift massive amount of weight it does

    No, it doesn't. Fat does not turn into muscle. That's not how it works, at all.
  • diannethegeekdiannethegeek Posts: 14,831Member Member Posts: 14,831Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    mathjulz wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.

    Are you trying to be a body builder... are you saying that a mans metabilism and a womens is the same men lose weight easier then women ... if you dont lose weight first and just skip that part...your fat will become muscle

    That's not how any of this works. You need to go back to step one and learn how metabolism, weight loss, and human bodies work.
  • HornsbyHornsby Posts: 10,372Member Member Posts: 10,372Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    mathjulz wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Bread and spaghetti are junk food? I should tell my 90+ year old Italian grandparents to stop eating that stuff everyday. derp

    No its not junk food but high in sugar men who do body work need to eat this women who are trying to lose weight should avoid

    What about men trying to lose weight?

    What about women doing "body work"? (assume you mean lifting heavy stuff)

    What about a woman trying to lose weight and do body work?

    My brain is going to explode in a moment.

    Are you trying to be a body builder... are you saying that a mans metabilism and a womens is the same men lose weight easier then women ... if you dont lose weight first and just skip that part...your fat will become muscle

    Fat does not magically become muscle.

    If you lift massive amount of weight it does

    No. Never.
  • ginamcyginamcy Posts: 74Member Member Posts: 74Member Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    I agree its not about losing weight more than maintaining a healthy diet of course

    What do you mean?

    Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back

    And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!

    If the eating less you're doing becomes your routine, no, no you don't gain back. That's kind of how the whole thing works. cwolfman13 literally explained it above with his own numbers.

    Its hard to maintain not impossible just hard..m its like eating less makes your stomach smaller then you just start eating less.... but the thing is.... is our goal to eat less or to eat healthier ..... eating less is not the solution for dieting im sorry but im against it i believe eating small portions many times a day will help you lose more calories than just once a day depending what you eat and its like anorexia how do people start.....eating less then not eating at all

    You can be against it all you want but the fact remains that in order to lose weight a person needs to be in a calorie deficit, and that can be done eating several small meals, one big meal, it can be done by eating any type of food as well.

    CICO is indisputable.

    What you seem to be mixing up is calorie deficit, nutrition, satiety, adherence, and long term maintenance. You keep saying that if people don't change the way they eat then they will gain all the weight back. While it's true that some people struggle maintaining long term success rates with weight loss - the tools that people have at their reach today (calorie counting sites like this one, activity trackers like FitBit) I think will make those success rates go up. Combine that with the fact that the people who use sites like this while they are losing learn new habits, such as portion control and moderation, so that they are better able to successfully transition into maintenance.

    The people who have responded here have collectively lost hundreds of pounds and kept them off for years using exactly the techniques you insist won't work.

    I'm requoting myself for emphasis since it seems to be the theme here that you can quote yourself and talk to yourself in this thread.

    OP - you are trying to argue points that make no sense from a scientific, or even a logic perspective. You are saying things like "you can't lose weight if you eat junk" or "you can lose weight but you won't be healthy" or "you can lose weight but you won't have a good body". Have you looked at the avatars of the people you are arguing with in this thread? Have you visited anyone's profile page to see how much weight they've lost? Read their stories to understand how their health markers have improved and how they have reversed things like high cholesterol, pre-diabetes, etc - simply by losing weight and eating a balanced, primarily nutrient dense diet within a calorie deficit - but not excluding things like McDonalds, which you now say is poison? If it were poison, would any of us be alive to be posting here today?



    You can think whatever you want .. you eat whatever you think is fit its more easier for someone to be on a healthy diet to lose weight then someone who doesnt iv done it ... it works for me so i dont really care what you do if i am happy with my weight and my body i really dont care how you lost your weight.. if i eat junk i wont lose weight... if you eat junk and you lose weight thats just you... if i eat bread and spaghetti i wont be able to lose weight if that works for you it doesn't mean it works for everyone...
  • queenliz99queenliz99 Posts: 15,358Member Member Posts: 15,358Member Member
    ginamcy wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    ginamcy wrote: »
    I agree its not about losing weight more than maintaining a healthy diet of course

    What do you mean?

    Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back

    And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!

    If the eating less you're doing becomes your routine, no, no you don't gain back. That's kind of how the whole thing works. cwolfman13 literally explained it above with his own numbers.

    Its hard to maintain not impossible just hard..m its like eating less makes your stomach smaller then you just start eating less.... but the thing is.... is our goal to eat less or to eat healthier ..... eating less is not the solution for dieting im sorry but im against it i believe eating small portions many times a day will help you lose more calories than just once a day depending what you eat and its like anorexia how do people start.....eating less then not eating at all

    You can be against it all you want but the fact remains that in order to lose weight a person needs to be in a calorie deficit, and that can be done eating several small meals, one big meal, it can be done by eating any type of food as well.

    CICO is indisputable.

    What you seem to be mixing up is calorie deficit, nutrition, satiety, adherence, and long term maintenance. You keep saying that if people don't change the way they eat then they will gain all the weight back. While it's true that some people struggle maintaining long term success rates with weight loss - the tools that people have at their reach today (calorie counting sites like this one, activity trackers like FitBit) I think will make those success rates go up. Combine that with the fact that the people who use sites like this while they are losing learn new habits, such as portion control and moderation, so that they are better able to successfully transition into maintenance.

    The people who have responded here have collectively lost hundreds of pounds and kept them off for years using exactly the techniques you insist won't work.

    I'm requoting myself for emphasis since it seems to be the theme here that you can quote yourself and talk to yourself in this thread.

    OP - you are trying to argue points that make no sense from a scientific, or even a logic perspective. You are saying things like "you can't lose weight if you eat junk" or "you can lose weight but you won't be healthy" or "you can lose weight but you won't have a good body". Have you looked at the avatars of the people you are arguing with in this thread? Have you visited anyone's profile page to see how much weight they've lost? Read their stories to understand how their health markers have improved and how they have reversed things like high cholesterol, pre-diabetes, etc - simply by losing weight and eating a balanced, primarily nutrient dense diet within a calorie deficit - but not excluding things like McDonalds, which you now say is poison? If it were poison, would any of us be alive to be posting here today?



    You can think whatever you want .. you eat whatever you think is fit its more easier for someone to be on a healthy diet to lose weight then someone who doesnt iv done it ... it works for me so i dont really care what you do if i am happy with my weight and my body i really dont care how you lost your weight.. if i eat junk i wont lose weight... if you eat junk and you lose weight thats just you... if i eat bread and spaghetti i wont be able to lose weight if that works for you it doesn't mean it works for everyone...

    Curious, why did you start this thread? Obviously not to get an answer to your question.
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