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How much fruit to eat per day
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Food combining has been around for many many years. The principal is that some foods need different amounts of acid to digest them as well as other foods needing different conflicting digesting times. The book I'm thinking of was, Food Combining For Health, I saw a copy back in the 80's so it is probably out of print now.
In the battle between (1) evolution's design of our digestive systems, and (2) evolution's design of our brains, I'm thinking the former is probably better at handling food combination issues than the latter. Just a hunch, though - no footnotes.
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Food combining has been around for many many years. The principal is that some foods need different amounts of acid to digest them as well as other foods needing different conflicting digesting times. The book I'm thinking of was, Food Combining For Health, I saw a copy back in the 80's so it is probably out of print now.
In the battle between (1) evolution's design of our digestive systems, and (2) evolution's design of our brains, I'm thinking the former is probably better at handling food combination issues than the latter. Just a hunch, though - no footnotes.
Yes, I imagine our bodies are rather proficient at digesting mixed meals...0 -
jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight. You'll more likely gain weight from consuming fatty foods.
Fat consumed is easily stored. It is not readily used as an energy source and therefore not burned unless you are eating very little carbs (which is an unhealthy practice).
Carbs, on the other hand, are readily used as energy but not so easily stored. Once your body can no longer use the calories from carbs as energy, the carbs are not stored as fat. They are stored as glycogen in the liver and the muscles. It is only after those stores are filled that carbs can be stored as fat. And you would have to eat WAY more carbs than you realistically already eat in order to do that.
So eat as much fruit as you'd like! Curb the fat.
Source: Lost 25+ pounds on a high carb low-fat diet.
What? This is science straight out of the 1970's- lol
Calories in/calories burnt, is the only thing that matters in weight loss. Eat too much fruit (or anything) and you gain weight, eat less than you need and you lose weight. For weight loss purposes it matters not what you eat- pure lard, leanest beef, potatoes, or mars bars, only how much in total.
Simple.
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jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight. You'll more likely gain weight from consuming fatty foods.
Fat consumed is easily stored. It is not readily used as an energy source and therefore not burned unless you are eating very little carbs (which is an unhealthy practice).
Carbs, on the other hand, are readily used as energy but not so easily stored. Once your body can no longer use the calories from carbs as energy, the carbs are not stored as fat. They are stored as glycogen in the liver and the muscles. It is only after those stores are filled that carbs can be stored as fat. And you would have to eat WAY more carbs than you realistically already eat in order to do that.
So eat as much fruit as you'd like! Curb the fat.
Source: Lost 25+ pounds on a high carb low-fat diet.
this is so much nonsense, please op just skip over this one, it is completely false information2 -
Usually a couple times a day and I've found if I have a apple after eating it helps fill me up and keeps my desire for sugar down.0
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I don't eat fruit really, not because of bloat or rules or whatever, I just don't like it much. if I buy apples or oranges they often go bad before they're eaten so I just stopped buying them.0
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mattldrowne wrote: »Does it make you bloat or put on weight
Hi Matt
FWIW I start every day with a Banana, Then I have an Apple,Pear, Nectarine or two Plums with Lunch and 2 or 3 Clementines with Dinner, the quantity depends on the size.
I have eaten this much for my entire weight loss journey and now that I am working on maintaining I still am eating three fruit portions a day. I do work them into my Calories for the day. What I did with Maintenance is go for larger fruits to increase the portion. For Example form a Small to medium Banana or Apple to large ones, and from two smallish Clementines to two large one or three small ones.
Good Luck
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CindyFooWho wrote: »
You have obviously never see me lose my freaking mind during cherry season.jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight.
I'm fixing to lose my mind for strawberry season.
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kshama2001 wrote: »CindyFooWho wrote: »
You have obviously never see me lose my freaking mind during cherry season.jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight.
I'm fixing to lose my mind for strawberry season.
Me too. All scheduled and everything. ;-)4 -
I see I'm not the only one! There are some very "seasonal" fruits that when they start showing up in the grocery store I have to get creative fitting them in and be sure to weigh and log them, because I make a fool out of myself over them - cherries, strawberries, and nectarines. I love them, and here in NY they are only available for a few months. And the beginning and end of the season they really aren't "in season", so I have to wait until they've been showing up in the stores for a week or two before they are really good. I just started seeing cherries, and there was a tiny little display of plums, so the nectarines should be here soon!
OP, as has already been said, if your diet is generally low in fiber, the fiber in fruit might be causing the bloating. The other option is a food allergy, and some fruit can be a problem if you have IBS. Otherwise, eat fruit whenever you want, assuming they fit into your calorie goal.0 -
I eat way more fruit in the summer, because I love all the seasonal local fruits so much.1
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lemurcat12 wrote: »I eat way more fruit in the summer, because I love all the seasonal local fruits so much.
So do i. I love summer time for that reason.0 -
All you people and your silly growing seasons.1
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My fruit consumption varies greatly by season. I eat much more fruit, including fruits that are commonly thought of as vegetables, when they are in season. None are in season during winter where I live so I sometimes go days without eating fruit.
Fruit does not make me bloat so if I gained weight it would be because I ate too many calories. But I'm more active in the months I tend to eat more fruit so I usually lose weight.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »My fruit consumption varies greatly by season. I eat much more fruit, including fruits that are commonly thought of as vegetables, when they are in season. None are in season during winter where I live so I sometimes go days without eating fruit.
I'm the same way, except in the winter is when I tend to eat clementines and bananas (which of course aren't local where I am, ever). And sometimes apples, as they can last pretty long if stored right, depending on the variety.0 -
My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.1 -
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kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
Yep, almost all the fruit I eat is locally home grown (mostly by me). That stuff that is shipped in from some far away land just does not taste the same. I think this true of things like tomatoes (especially tomatoes!!) and zucchini as well as sweet fruits.0 -
If you are sensitive to sugar, fruit can cause your blood sugar to jump up and then sink down fast. I never eat fruit without some fat or protein with it. (like a cheese stick, for example.) - but I am pre-diabetic, so I have to watch my carbs and balance them so they get digested more slowly.1
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kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
These are local apples. You can get them pretty late into the winter here from the green market/CSA.0 -
If you are sensitive to sugar, fruit can cause your blood sugar to jump up and then sink down fast. I never eat fruit without some fat or protein with it. (like a cheese stick, for example.) - but I am pre-diabetic, so I have to watch my carbs and balance them so they get digested more slowly.
This must vary by person. My MIL and SIL are both T2 diabetics and they eat fruit like it's going out of style because it's the only sugary fruit that doesn't spike their glucose levels. My SIL eats about 1 lb of grapes per day.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
Yep, almost all the fruit I eat is locally home grown (mostly by me). That stuff that is shipped in from some far away land just does not taste the same. I think this true of things like tomatoes (especially tomatoes!!) and zucchini as well as sweet fruits.
Couldn't agree more about tomatoes. That's one of the things I successfully grow, and I like the ones from the green houses earlier in the season than I can get them from my garden, but out of season and non local tomatoes aren't worth it -- one of the reasons I defend canned tomatoes, as IMO high quality canned tomatoes are the best option out of season.
(Maybe some day I will actually can my own. Could happen.)0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
Yep, almost all the fruit I eat is locally home grown (mostly by me). That stuff that is shipped in from some far away land just does not taste the same. I think this true of things like tomatoes (especially tomatoes!!) and zucchini as well as sweet fruits.
Couldn't agree more about tomatoes. That's one of the things I successfully grow, and I like the ones from the green houses earlier in the season than I can get them from my garden, but out of season and non local tomatoes aren't worth it -- one of the reasons I defend canned tomatoes, as IMO high quality canned tomatoes are the best option out of season.
(Maybe some day I will actually can my own. Could happen.)
You should! They are super easy to can because of the high acid content. You don't even need a pressure cooker. Just a pot large enough to submerge the jars in water. Peeling them is a bit of a mess, but so worth it.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
These are local apples. You can get them pretty late into the winter here from the green market/CSA.
What varieties store well?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
Yep, almost all the fruit I eat is locally home grown (mostly by me). That stuff that is shipped in from some far away land just does not taste the same. I think this true of things like tomatoes (especially tomatoes!!) and zucchini as well as sweet fruits.
Couldn't agree more about tomatoes. That's one of the things I successfully grow, and I like the ones from the green houses earlier in the season than I can get them from my garden, but out of season and non local tomatoes aren't worth it -- one of the reasons I defend canned tomatoes, as IMO high quality canned tomatoes are the best option out of season.
(Maybe some day I will actually can my own. Could happen.)
You should! They are super easy to can because of the high acid content. You don't even need a pressure cooker. Just a pot large enough to submerge the jars in water. Peeling them is a bit of a mess, but so worth it.
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kshama2001 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My farm stand has ruined me for apples that are not local and in season.
I'm always happy to see them appear in the late summer...until I realize this means summer is over.
These are local apples. You can get them pretty late into the winter here from the green market/CSA.
What varieties store well?
I'm not an expert -- I just take what the CSA sends and look at what's available at the green market. Apples are one of the few things (only fruit) we get through the whole winter. I think Northern Spy and Gala were among the varieties.0 -
I started a right discussion here didn't I lol!!!!0
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All you people and your silly growing seasons.
Lol, I was thinking this too Of course there are seasons and some fruits are better and cheaper and more plentyful at certain times, but there's always some fruit that is ripe somewhere. I eat a wide variety of fruit all year round, but exactly what, changes a lot from season to season. If we were to rely solely on our own fruit, we'd be eating nothing but apples, pears, plums, cherries, blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, lingonberries, redcurrants, blackcurrants, gooseberries and rose hips 
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Wat?
I mean, I understand picking what works for you, but then you lost me in all the rules after that...
It's quite simple - sorry if I confused you.
Carbs and Fat together are essentially a no no. So either eat one or the other, but not both together.
http://www.metaboliceffect.com/worst-food-combination-for-weight-loss/
The best time to have carbs is around a workout. The worst time to have fat is right after a workout - it's proven that fat does not digested properly after a workout. That's why it is recommended to eat simple easy to digest carbs and easy to digest protein (i.e., chocolate milk and a banana, etc.)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm
So yeah, eat fruit if you want, but just do it right - even better if you can do it combined with a workout so you can put all that sugar to good use!
I eat high carb, high protein, low fat. Lost around 70 pounds and kept off. Low carb isn't for everyone. I tried it twice and was losing my sanity. Low carb, high fat makes me feel hungry which I didn't like either.0
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