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  • Posts: 49,177 Member

    95% per serving probably. That 5% of artificial sweeteners add up though, depending on how much diet soda you drink. While your doctors and registered dieticians never said to avoid them, I guarantee they will never recommend them either.
    Link some actual evidence for that. I've been drinking diet soda for over 25+ years and haven't experienced that so called health issues claimed by many a "natural" site.
    How many coroners attribute death to an artificial sweetener?

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    edited June 2016
    Don't drink it ... it's a deadly toxin
    Which is why there are millions of deaths attributed to diet soda every year. :D Yes, that was sarcasm.

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    You can be hydrated through other drinks, your right, but wouldn't you say plain water is the best choice to be hydrated?
    Doesn't that depend on what you're doing? If you're losing electrolytes out of your body from extreme exercise, does just drinking water trump a drink like Gatorade in this scenario?

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  • Posts: 49,177 Member
    CincyNeid wrote: »
    I haven't had a Soft Drink in nearly 2 years.

    1) I don't want the unwarranted Calories from the Sugars that are in them.
    Legit
    2) Diet sodas are Zero to low cal, however the body cannot process the sweeteners in them.
    Not legit. Feel free to link peer reviewed study proving that.
    3) Diet Sodas can trick the body into storing unwanted/unwarranted fat.
    Not legit. Feel free to link peer reviewed clinical study proving that.
    Plus there are a number of other side effects of Sugary Drinks and Artificial sweeteners.
    Like what?
    I've been drinking Tea, Coffee and Water for the past 2 years. To the point I even put Iced Coffee in my Camelbak when I go cycling.....
    That's nice, but that doesn't prove your actual points against diet sodas.

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  • Posts: 49,177 Member

    You may be correct... I've read lots of research on artificial sweetners and they back up what you say.

    Unfortunately much of the research is fairly new and most likely biased... the research is generally funded by the sugar companies and artificial sweetner companies.

    Either way MFP'ERS are not interested in this information. (I am though) - the general consensus around here seems to be based on personal experiences, weight loss and of course the almighty CICO.

    For myself I air on the side of caution and long term health and will avoid artificial sweetners until proper reputable research proves it yields zero side effects.
    They are already out there. Artificial sweeteners are the MOST studied additive since the 40's. And there really is no peer reviewed clinical study (which means it can be scrutinized), that shows that they are harmful to general population who don't have PKU or other health reactions to them.

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    This debate is far from science.... it's unfortunate that it offends or upsets anyone. You do you and I'll do me ...

    As for this topic - I'm out
    Actually is not. Opinion isn't science..............it's opinion. Science relies on a collection of observation, testing, etc. The information is out there. Whether you choose to believe it or not doesn't negate it.

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    ninerbuff, I <3 you! Just so you know lol. And coke zero vanilla. . . just sayin.
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    edited June 2016
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Link some actual evidence for that. I've been drinking diet soda for over 25+ years and haven't experienced that so called health issues claimed by many a "natural" site.
    How many coroners attribute death to an artificial sweetener?

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    Health issues are dependent on how often a person drinks it. You said you been drinking diet soda for over 25+ years, but how often do you drink it?

    As for evidence, well...are you looking for health related evidence or death related evidence?

    I read an interesting article from the Harvard Health Blog that explains artificial sweeteners and their cause and affect: http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Doesn't that depend on what you're doing? If you're losing electrolytes out of your body from extreme exercise, does just drinking water trump a drink like Gatorade in this scenario?

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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Doesn't that depend on what you're doing? If you're losing electrolytes out of your body from extreme exercise, does just drinking water trump a drink like Gatorade in this scenario?

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    To each their own when it comes to exercise, but I personally feel more refreshed drinking water after exercise.
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    To each their own when it comes to exercise, but I personally feel more refreshed drinking water after exercise.

    This is how threads get derailed.

    The OP was about if diet sodas cause weight gain or muscle loss. Period.
  • Posts: 49,177 Member
    edited June 2016

    Health issues are dependent on how often a person drinks it. You said you been drinking diet soda for over 25+ years, but how often do you drink it?
    2 cans a day on average. Sometimes 3.
    As for evidence, well...are you looking for health related evidence or death related evidence?
    How about something that not correlated, but an actual evidence based linked study DIRECTLY showing that artificial sweeteners create health issues and death issues in HUMANS?
    I read an interesting article from the Harvard Health Blog that explains artificial sweeteners and their cause and affect: http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
    A blog is not a study though. It's opinion. And it's from an editor, not an actual scientist. Even so, the article is based on MAYBE's. If I ride my bike more than John, I MAYBE have a higher risk of getting hit by a car than him. However if I ride my bike in the middle of the road into oncoming traffic, I'll LIKELY get hit by a car. See the difference?

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  • Posts: 38,439 MFP Moderator

    To each their own when it comes to exercise, but I personally feel more refreshed drinking water after exercise.

    There is a time and place for all drinks. I have a soda in the morning and in the afternoon because i like the taste. And drink 150 oz a water throughout the day (of that 96oz contain MIOs for flavor). So like all things diet and nutrient, its about context.
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    To each their own when it comes to exercise, but I personally feel more refreshed drinking water after exercise.
    So in other words, it's YOUR preference that you're using as evidence?

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    @ninerbuff , I said I like your style, and I still hold to that. :)
  • Posts: 88 Member
    http://www.m.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-sodas-and-weight-gain-not-so-fast

    Several links to the available studies out there. Personally, I believe moderation is key, and a person's genetic makeup. I find that, when I am eating well, cravings for sugary foods are less.

    In terms of CICO, diet sodas don't affect.
  • Posts: 7,739 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Syrup shots? Challenge accepted.

    I'll take my syrup in the form of Jagermeister, please.
  • Posts: 293 Member
    edited June 2016
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    2 cans a day on average. Sometimes 3.
    How about something that not correlated, but an actual evidence based linked study DIRECTLY showing that artificial sweeteners create health issues and death issues in HUMANS?
    A blog is not a study though. It's opinion. And it's from an editor, not an actual scientist. Even so, the article is based on MAYBE's. If I ride my bike more than John, I MAYBE have a higher risk of getting hit by a car than him. However if I ride my bike in the middle of the road into oncoming traffic, I'll LIKELY get hit by a car. See the difference?

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    I really don't want to turn this in to a debate thread, especially after the original poster's answer has been concluded. I just want you to know that I am not against soda and I do believe in moderation is key to success when it comes to a diet/lifestyle change. It's unlikely that whatever link I post will persuade you to discontinue drinking soda if you having been drinking 2 cans (sometimes 3) a day for the past 25 years. You like drinking diet soda simply because you like the taste, I understand. Just so you know, that link I sent wasn't supposed to be evidence I just wanted to show you what I read about artificial sweeteners.
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    So in other words, it's YOUR preference that you're using as evidence?

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    Dude, you're arguing with someone that had to ask what would happen if someone were to have an all carb diet.
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    TR0berts wrote: »

    Dude, you're arguing with someone that had to ask what would happen if someone were to have an all carb diet.

    It was an honest question I asked though, I really didn't know what would happen to the body if all I ate was carbs.
  • Posts: 419 Member
    My actual evidence is that I have bad side effects when I eat or drink anything with artificial sweeteners like aspartame etc. But that probably doesn't count as health issues.
  • Posts: 8,736 Member
    My actual evidence is that I have bad side effects when I eat or drink anything with artificial sweeteners like aspartame etc. But that probably doesn't count as health issues.

    So you should avoid it but there are tons and tons that don't so they don't need to avoid it
  • Posts: 8,736 Member
    @biggsterjackster I have very bad side effects from foods with more than 2g of fiber so I guess it's horrible for everyone (no it's not, it's bad for me. Like artificial sweeteners fiber is fine for most people)
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    @biggsterjackster I have very bad side effects from foods with more than 2g of fiber so I guess it's horrible for everyone (no it's not, it's bad for me. Like artificial sweeteners fiber is fine for most people)

    Absolutely agree, it's only bad for me, not for everyone.
  • Posts: 284 Member
    I drink diet soda and my weight loss has been just fine
  • Posts: 384 Member
    I dont drink it in moderation tho. I drink it all the time and i only drink water during workouts.
  • Posts: 2,235 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    I dont drink it in moderation tho. I drink it all the time and i only drink water during workouts.

    I do pretty much the same here (I'll occasionally drink flavored water when not working out) and I've lost over 80 lbs since July. It does not prevent fat or weight loss and does not cause muscle loss. If you have zero medical issues with it, like the fact that it seems to cause migraines for some people, feel free to continue drinking it. It won't prevent you from losing weight.
  • Posts: 38,439 MFP Moderator
    healthy491 wrote: »
    I dont drink it in moderation tho. I drink it all the time and i only drink water during workouts.

    As long as you dont get dehydrated or anything, i am not sure there would be an issue. Adequate protein is what is needed to maintain muscle mass. And a deficit is needed for weight loss. Just account for the calories. At 20oz they have 10 calories.
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