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I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.7 -
In case anyone wants to read the nurse/breast cancer study and not the hyped claims made of it.0
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We've been eating fruit for thousands of years. Our bodies have evolved eating fruit. Our closest relative the chimpanzee eats mainly fruit supplementing their diet with leaves, bark, nuts, seeds, and 2-3% of their yearly diet is meat from insects and other small animals.
Does fruit have too.much sugar. I think not.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »There are 70-million sugar in fruit threads here, including a currently active oneFruit sugar is easily digested unlike the other food groups.
Other sugars you mean? No, the sugars are basically the same, although the foods are different. Take ice cream made with cane sugar (sucrose). That's a combination of fructose and glucose (about 50/50, I think) and gets broken down as such. A banana contains a mix of fructose, glucose, and sucrose, as do other fruits in varying degrees. So to your body, there's no difference.
Yes sugar is sugar however the rate that sugar hits the bloodstream varies widely. The sugar in juice or soda is on a express freeway to your bloodstream and liver. Even sugar in something like ice cream gets absorbed very quickly. Fruit has fiber and lots of other good then so the road to the blood stream is more like a rutted dirt road, it gets there but often at a much slower place. Some of the sugar is probably even used by bacteria in our gut. So actually there is a difference.
How toxic something is depends on how much of it there is. It could be possible for the fructose in juice to be at toxic levels for someone in that it promotes problems like non alcoholic liver disease, where as eating the same amount of fruit used to produce the juice wouldn't be toxic. That is because it takes a lot longer to eat the fruit vs drinking the juice and even once it is eaten it takes a lot longer for the body to extract all the sugar from the fruit.1 -
Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?3 -
Alluminati wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?
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queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?
Raises hand!
Well that's just great
Go to you room!
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
Too much of anything is toxic. What else do you have? We've heard it all.7 -
Alluminati wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?
Raises hand!
Well that's just great
Go to you room!
Let me get one more straight up!4 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?
Raises hand!
Well that's just great
Go to you room!
Let me get one more straight up!
If Kermit is sending us to our room for eating sugar, I'll come hang out with you. When the sugar is gone we can open the wine.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?
Raises hand!
Well that's just great
Go to you room!
Let me get one more straight up!
If Kermit is sending us to our room for eating sugar, I'll come hang out with you. When the sugar is gone we can open the wine.
Let's kill two birds, sangria?3 -
queenliz99 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Sugar is sugar, whether it's in fruit or not.
If you have a specific medical problem with sugar, follow your doctor's recommendations about sugar consumption.
If you don't have a specific medical problem with sugar, moderate your intake of sugar just like you moderate other things that you eat.
Eat the amount of fruit that fits your nutritional goals. Not too much, not too little. It's up to you to decide what's "too much" or "too little" within your goals and the government's nutritional suggestions.
That is true in one sense yet white sugar is a processed food devoid of things needed for good health where as the sugar in say an apple comes along with many things needed for good health so all sugar is not equal in preventing premature death in humans.
This is true in one sense yet, who the hell eats straight up white sugar?
Raises hand!
Well that's just great
Go to you room!
Let me get one more straight up!
If Kermit is sending us to our room for eating sugar, I'll come hang out with you. When the sugar is gone we can open the wine.
Let's kill two birds, sangria?
YOU! I like you
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=03 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0
Based on my own previous experience when I had prediabetes, the stuff stated above is very individual. Grapes and bananas raised my blood sugar way worse than ice cream, which resulted in a surprisingly tame spike. It made me feel sad because I absolutely love grapes and bananas. Thankfully I can eat them now.
I think what is being said, like with all things, the dose and the individualized condition make the "poison". I don't believe in hard rules against any substance unless it's an actual poison like cyanide. Heck, even that I'm able to consume in miniscule doses (in apple seeds) and I'm still alive. The body is an amazing adaptable machine. Provide it with a basic balance and it tends to know how to function well. No over obsession with any single ingredient is needed as long as there is at least a basic nutritional balance, unless said ingredient is condition-specific (like peanuts for someone with a peanut allergy).
I don't mind sugar, added or otherwise, just like I don't mind carbs, fats, soy or peanuts. There is more to a diet (as it way of eating) than its individual ingredients. It's mostly the sum of all parts that matters. Some tribes where wild honey is a staple survive just fine, and honey is little more than flavored liquid added sugar.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »mayoosh_primrose wrote: »I've read several articles about this topic because I eat so much fruit. I came to the conclusion that it's ok to eat as much as you want -unless you have diabetes.
Fruit has fiber and other nutrients that make them really healthy, unlike white sugar and refined carbs.
Sprinkle sugar on broccoli and you get more nutrients with your sugar than from fruit.
Oh I do that often (cheese has sugar, right?)
Virtually none in hard cheese.0 -
Shobhituva wrote: »There are tons of benefits of having fruits daily to every age group.. It has been proven that certain fruits seemed to confer the biggest protection against breast cancer. The study has been published by British Medical Journal (BMJ).
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Study used memory of adult nurses to reconstruct their adolescent intake.
Yes in an age where studies are published saying we shouldn't use dietary recall in an ongoing context the idea of using what you recall eating 10-20 years ago is beyond ridiculous.
Who funds this bullcrap epidemiology ?3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I think I'm more comfortable paying attention to the views of people like Walter Willett at Harvard and David Katz at Yale, and eating fruit without worrying about it while keeping an eye on sat fat, but thanks.
"David L. Katz is a nutritionist and the founding director of the Yale-Griffin Prevention Research Center at Griffin Hospital in Derby, CT, which has "no connection" to Yale Medical School He is a voluntary clinical instructor in Internal Medicine." That guy ? He of the self reviews on Amazon fame.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0
Diabetes.org itself says quite clearly that sugar alone is not a risk factor for getting diabetes. Being fat and having bad luck are though.
And seriously? "Global healing center" which is in quackwatch's list of questionable organizations http://quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html and sells homeopathic crap that detoxes your wallet of dangerous money, "eating academy" which advertises itself with the red flag slogan "forget everything you know about nutrition", and a nytimes article.7 -
stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0
Diabetes.org itself says quite clearly that sugar alone is not a risk factor for getting diabetes. Being fat and having bad luck are though.
And seriously? "Global healing center" which is in quackwatch's list of questionable organizations http://quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html and sells homeopathic crap that detoxes your wallet of dangerous money, "eating academy" which advertises itself with the red flag slogan "forget everything you know about nutrition", and a nytimes article.
from: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
"Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes. - See more at: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/?loc=superfooter#sthash.dqFvs1cH.dpuf"
Yup, quite clearly ... I guess you are hanging on the word "alone". Well it also turns out that too much sugar also makes you fat and can cause very bad luck when you go to the dentist.
As for the rest, there is not shortage of places warning about added sugars. I'm pretty sure the New York Times is pushing the homeopathic crap you are worried about.
The average added sugar consumption in the US is greater than 80 grams a day. That is 29.2 kg / year ( > 64 lbs / year). Don't you think that is just a tad bit excessive?1 -
stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0
Diabetes.org itself says quite clearly that sugar alone is not a risk factor for getting diabetes. Being fat and having bad luck are though.
And seriously? "Global healing center" which is in quackwatch's list of questionable organizations http://quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html and sells homeopathic crap that detoxes your wallet of dangerous money, "eating academy" which advertises itself with the red flag slogan "forget everything you know about nutrition", and a nytimes article.
from: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
"Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes. - See more at: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/?loc=superfooter#sthash.dqFvs1cH.dpuf"
Yup, quite clearly ... I guess you are hanging on the word "alone". Well it also turns out that too much sugar also makes you fat and can cause very bad luck when you go to the dentist.
As for the rest, there is not shortage of places warning about added sugars. I'm pretty sure the New York Times is pushing the homeopathic crap you are worried about.
The average added sugar consumption in the US is greater than 80 grams a day. That is 29.2 kg / year ( > 64 lbs / year). Don't you think that is just a tad bit excessive?
Being linked != being a risk factor.
Do we have to get into science lingo 101 now?
"The summer months are linked to drownings"
"absence of umbrellas are linked to getting wet"
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stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0
Diabetes.org itself says quite clearly that sugar alone is not a risk factor for getting diabetes. Being fat and having bad luck are though.
And seriously? "Global healing center" which is in quackwatch's list of questionable organizations http://quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html and sells homeopathic crap that detoxes your wallet of dangerous money, "eating academy" which advertises itself with the red flag slogan "forget everything you know about nutrition", and a nytimes article.
By Gary Taubes, no less.
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stevencloser wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I realized, as I have to test my blood sugars now; that fruit can be bothersome to blood sugar. Yet, not all fruits have the same sugar content. Pineapple and Watermelon make my blood sugars rise but strawberries don't unless I eat a huge amount. Yet, fruit has a lot of vitamins and minerals. Thus, now I only allow myself two fruits a day and divide it up during the day so I am not getting all that sugar at one time. Sugar is toxic. It is only meant to be used sparingly. I really watch carbs and sugars, but eat real fats at every meal. Fat does not cause heart disease. It is the excess sugars we have in all of our foods.
Sugar is not toxic.
There is more and more research showing that too much sugar is toxic. Almost everything can be toxic, it depends on how much and how fast one is exposed to it.
One of the toxic effects of too much sugar: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I didn't see where it mentions sugar there?
Type 2 diabetes is largely a problem of insulin resistance and there is evidence linking added sugar consumption to the development of type 2 diabetes. At the same time it appears that the consumption of fruit is safe even though the fruit is often high in fructose. It seems likely the main problem is added sugar in drinks and juices which cause much higher levels of fructose in the blood and finally the liver. The fiber in whole fruit slows the absorption of the sugar in fruit.
While the toxicity of sugar is hotly debated, it is looking more and more like what went on with tobacco. Sugar can't be avoided completely but added sugar can be largely avoided.
Some articles that talk about sugar and evidence. (There are many, many more)
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all From 1975!
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0
Diabetes.org itself says quite clearly that sugar alone is not a risk factor for getting diabetes. Being fat and having bad luck are though.
And seriously? "Global healing center" which is in quackwatch's list of questionable organizations http://quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html and sells homeopathic crap that detoxes your wallet of dangerous money, "eating academy" which advertises itself with the red flag slogan "forget everything you know about nutrition", and a nytimes article.
from: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
"Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes. - See more at: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/?loc=superfooter#sthash.dqFvs1cH.dpuf"
Yup, quite clearly ... I guess you are hanging on the word "alone". Well it also turns out that too much sugar also makes you fat and can cause very bad luck when you go to the dentist.
As for the rest, there is not shortage of places warning about added sugars. I'm pretty sure the New York Times is pushing the homeopathic crap you are worried about.
The average added sugar consumption in the US is greater than 80 grams a day. That is 29.2 kg / year ( > 64 lbs / year). Don't you think that is just a tad bit excessive?
Being linked != being a risk factor.
Do we have to get into science lingo 101 now?
"The summer months are linked to drownings"
"absence of umbrellas are linked to getting wet"
With sugary drinks there have been studies that prove high amounts of consumption cause metabolic syndrome systems.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150928144031.htm
http://www.nature.com/nrgastro/journal/v12/n8/full/nrgastro.2015.108.html
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/sugary-drinks/
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/10/119431/sugared-soda-consumption-cell-aging-associated-new-study
https://www.yahoo.com/news/studies-more-firmly-tie-sugary-drinks-obesity-201251759.html
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/oct/16/sugar-soft-drinks-dna-ageing-study
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-09/acoc-nre092415.php
And many more ... where there is smoke there is probably fire.3 -
Natural vs processed sugar is how it's digested by the body. Natural sugars are digested more slowly, which is more beneficial when it comes to regulating blood sugar levels. Anything in excess is unhealthy.1
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haha this made me giggle thanks for the larf lemurcatlemurcat12 wrote: »
I don't really know what natural energy is vs. unnatural energy. Maybe the latter is from caffeine or speed? I definitely agree that fruit is better than speed.
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Natural vs processed sugar is how it's digested by the body. Natural sugars are digested more slowly, which is more beneficial when it comes to regulating blood sugar levels. Anything in excess is unhealthy.
I don't know what you mean by natural vs processed. Fructose is fructose weather it is naturally in the food or extracted. If you take ten apples and squeeze the juice out into a glass and drink it, there will be a lot of fructose dumped into the blood quickly. Since the cells won't eat fructose it ends up in the liver and the liver is forced to deal with it. If you eat the 10 apples instead, much of the fructose will still make it into your body but it will be slower and spread out over a longer time. You probably also get a stomach ache since 10 apples is a lot of apples to eat.
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