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Loosing 5 or 6 pounds of water is a start!!!!and I'm not struggling with the lifestyle so will keep going...all I'm saying is don't knock it till you try it
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domgibson88 wrote: »Loosing 5 or 6 pounds of water is a start!!!!and I'm not struggling with the lifestyle so will keep going...all I'm saying is don't knock it till you try it
Nice going! I would be on cloud 9 if I lost 5 pounds of fat and water. I feel just as fat and equally bloated when puffed up with water. It would be nice for me not to be a walking water balloon.8 -
Except your rant has no basis because when most people talk about low carb, they are not speaking about a slight shift in macronutrients nor playing with macronutrients for personal satiety. They're talking about banning all "bad" carbs, which don't exist by the way, and only eating a small amount of complex carbs if at all.
I personally find that I do best with a higher fat/protein percentage on most days myself, but does that mean I'm going to recommend my personal macro split to others? Nope. Sometimes I'm just fine on a 50C, 30F, 20P split, other times my body craves a 30C, 40F, 30P split. That all has to do with my personal needs depending on what exercises I've done that day, my menstrual cycle, etc.
When people are struggling with feeling full, one of the first things recommended here is to make sure that person is getting enough fat and protein in their diet so I don't know which forum you've been reading but it sure can't be this one. The only time I see anyone discourage anything related to low carb is when someone posts they aren't losing weight regardless of doing everything "right" and someone comes along suggesting to cut carbs as if that's the solution and not the improper logging, underestimation of food intake and/or overestimation of exercise calories that's hindering the person to begin with.
Furthermore, unless you are severely obese, you did not lose six pounds of fat in two and a half weeks; you lost mostly water with a bit of fat. This is another reason people get all aboard the low carb hype train. They lose a bunch of water weight within the first few weeks, it tapers off, they reintroduce carbs, "gain" weight and all of a sudden they're back to square one. If eating less carbs works for your hunger levels then that's great for you and keep doing what you're doing, but in the end the only thing that will work for you and everyone else that wants to lose weight is a calorie deficit, regardless of your personal macro split.
I get your point, I really do but it's difficult to adhere to anything you have to say with the undertone of bitterness your displaying here. Are you trying to help folks or are you just trying to come across like a guru? Lighten up a little.10 -
Everyone has what works for them. For me super low carbs, under 25 grams per day, makes me feel the best. I have lots of energy, don't feel bloated and sluggish, and best of all never hangry...lol. The trick with any dietary plan is to make it one that is sustainable for your lifestyle. I am a pre-diabetic so it is best for me to live a low carb lifestyle. I do have carbs once is a while on special occasions.17
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domgibson88 wrote: »So, I'm sick of when people on here say they are struggling and someone on here suggests low carb and then another person berates them and says it's all about calories eat as much as you want but stay within the calories but heres the thing, did that and could not stay within my calories because carbs don't keep me satiated....they satisfy for an hour then I'm hungry again.. For example I used to have cheerios for breakfast but by first break at work (930) I was starving and usually grabbed a cookie or bag of chips...now I have 3 scrambled eggs with salsa (more calories) but I'm good till lunch!!I may have a small healthy snack like some Spitz or a handful of almonds but that's it!!!Now I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've lost 6 pounds in 2 and a half weeks doing this, it's working for me...so when someone on here suggests low care it is a VALID suggestion...the whole "eat whatever you want and stay within calorie goal" is not the ultimate answer so don't be quick to judge someone's suggestion.. Different lifestyles work for different people.
...When people give the "eat whatever you want and stay in your calorie goal" answer that is usually in response to someone who has told someone that they need to "cut carbs, sugar, eat clean... whatever". You need to find what works for you and eat what you like that is in your calorie goal. You said it yourself, different lifestyles work for different people.
I don't really see a lot of people on here saying that low carb is not a valid suggestion, just that it isn't necessary unless you have medical reasons for going low carb.
@kgirlhart The way you framed it is perfectly acceptable. However try putting it out there that cutting out sugar and going low carb is an option to try, and there are plenty who think low carb is a bad idea and will say that you can eat sweets and fit in cakes, etc and will fight a duel with you.
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@DebSozo I do eat sweets and fit in cakes, etc on a regular basis. I also eat fast food sometimes. I am down 57 pounds and 3 pounds from goal. I don't think that you have to cut out anything, you just have to eat in moderation. Personally I try to always hit my protien goal and then I just let the fats and carbs fall where they fall each day and don't really pay any attention to how many carbs or what type of carbs I eat. That is what works for me. For me low carb is a bad idea. I'm sure it works for some and it is necessary for some. But lots of people I know who cut carbs are yo-yo dieters who cut them real low then when they hit their goal they start eating them again and gain it all back. If you want to cut carbs for the rest of your life then that is fine, but unless you plan to eat that way for the rest of your life, I think it is a bad idea.4 -
domgibson88 wrote: »So, I'm sick of when people on here say they are struggling and someone on here suggests low carb and then another person berates them and says it's all about calories eat as much as you want but stay within the calories but heres the thing, did that and could not stay within my calories because carbs don't keep me satiated....they satisfy for an hour then I'm hungry again.. For example I used to have cheerios for breakfast but by first break at work (930) I was starving and usually grabbed a cookie or bag of chips...now I have 3 scrambled eggs with salsa (more calories) but I'm good till lunch!!I may have a small healthy snack like some Spitz or a handful of almonds but that's it!!!Now I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've lost 6 pounds in 2 and a half weeks doing this, it's working for me...so when someone on here suggests low care it is a VALID suggestion...the whole "eat whatever you want and stay within calorie goal" is not the ultimate answer so don't be quick to judge someone's suggestion.. Different lifestyles work for different people.
you keep doing what you are doing... dont ever doubt yourself... dont be afraid to eat fat... now I will tell you healthy fats are better.... but please dont be afraid of eating low carb high fat... be very careful with your macros.. i try to stay about 75% fat, 5% carb, 20% protein.... dont over eat on your protein... your body will turn that protein into sugars...think its called gluconeogenesis.....now... my personal story....
in 4 months I lost over 100 pounds... (not all water weight) .... i was taking 49 units of Lantus insulin a night.. i hated those shots..... i was taking Lisinopril and Verapamil...2 blood pressure meds and in the first 6 weeks, i got off the insulin and 1 of the blood pressure meds... it took about 4 months to get rid of the other blood pressure med... my blood pressure after the gym yesterday was 107/64..... my doctor still has me on Metformin ..he says that is just a good thing to take to keep my system running good... im ok with that..... im a new person.......
now i try to stay away from all the nasty fats... i do eat bacon from time to time but i eat lots of eggs and leaner meats.. my choice... i could eat regular hamburger but i chose to eat ground round... i eat lots of green leafy veggies.. ;lots of salads... i do the oil and vinegas mostly but i do eat Maries Chunky blue cheese dressing... i try not to eat a whole lot of cheese... i eat some Dukes mayo.... i stay away from toms, onions,,, carrots....
i love broccoli and cauliflower.....
i eat a good breakfast and sometimes have to make myself eat lunch.. i just dont get hungry.. oh i use the heck out of Kerry Gold unsalted butter on my veggies... eat some Daisy sourcream....
long story... i would love to talk to you about low carbing...... its my life now....
NOT ALL DIETS WORK FOR ALL PEOPLE... i firmly believe that.... some people think we are crazy to eat low carb high fat...... it works for me.. that is all i can say....
hope we can talk more....
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Me too. Carbs just make me gain. Unless I get to doing heavy exercise. Than I need a certain amount of carbs. Which was many years ago. I remember I followed mutrisystem to a T. One week gained 5 pounds. I cut out the snacks and 3 more weeks 5lbs more. Sent the crap back. LOL. This past year I started the isagenix plan. Gained weight. My body does not deal with man made products. Whole foods from now on. Now with my business more and more desk work. No servicing any more. Im having a hard time to fit in exercising. More stress with this different generation of customers. I have to revamp my day. The big 50 is coming. Oct 7. I am desperate to get my life turned around health wise. With all this weight. My body is having a fit. Its not about vanity anymore. Its about health and well being. I want to finish what God has planned for me. I cant do it when I am always aching and hurting. I am determined. I have it in my mind that its life or death.
I too did the atkins diet years ago. Lost 35lb.
Tried it after I went into menopause. Didnt work as good. Of course i was younger and more active and had hormones.1 -
domgibson88 wrote: »So, I'm sick of when people on here say they are struggling and someone on here suggests low carb and then another person berates them and says it's all about calories eat as much as you want but stay within the calories but heres the thing, did that and could not stay within my calories because carbs don't keep me satiated....they satisfy for an hour then I'm hungry again.. For example I used to have cheerios for breakfast but by first break at work (930) I was starving and usually grabbed a cookie or bag of chips...now I have 3 scrambled eggs with salsa (more calories) but I'm good till lunch!!I may have a small healthy snack like some Spitz or a handful of almonds but that's it!!!Now I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've lost 6 pounds in 2 and a half weeks doing this, it's working for me...so when someone on here suggests low care it is a VALID suggestion...the whole "eat whatever you want and stay within calorie goal" is not the ultimate answer so don't be quick to judge someone's suggestion.. Different lifestyles work for different people.
...When people give the "eat whatever you want and stay in your calorie goal" answer that is usually in response to someone who has told someone that they need to "cut carbs, sugar, eat clean... whatever". You need to find what works for you and eat what you like that is in your calorie goal. You said it yourself, different lifestyles work for different people.
I don't really see a lot of people on here saying that low carb is not a valid suggestion, just that it isn't necessary unless you have medical reasons for going low carb.
@kgirlhart The way you framed it is perfectly acceptable. However try putting it out there that cutting out sugar and going low carb is an option to try, and there are plenty who think low carb is a bad idea and will say that you can eat sweets and fit in cakes, etc and will fight a duel with you.
Edited typo
@DebSozo I do eat sweets and fit in cakes, etc on a regular basis. I also eat fast food sometimes. I am down 57 pounds and 3 pounds from goal. I don't think that you have to cut out anything, you just have to eat in moderation. Personally I try to always hit my protien goal and then I just let the fats and carbs fall where they fall each day and don't really pay any attention to how many carbs or what type of carbs I eat. That is what works for me. For me low carb is a bad idea. I'm sure it works for some and it is necessary for some. But lots of people I know who cut carbs are yo-yo dieters who cut them real low then when they hit their goal they start eating them again and gain it all back. If you want to cut carbs for the rest of your life then that is fine, but unless you plan to eat that way for the rest of your life, I think it is a bad idea.
I understand what you are saying. I really do. And if everything in moderation works for you and you don't have trouble sticking to your calorie goal, that's wonderful! For me, and many others, moderation is much more difficult when eating higher carb foods. They simply don't fill me up enough at the time, and they leave me hungrier, sooner, making it immensely more difficult to stick to calorie goal. IOW, yeah, if I could eat "in moderation" while eating sweets and cakes and such, that'd be fine. But I can't. My experience has made that abundantly clear. If I eat LCHF most of the time, only indulging in higher carb foods on truley special occassions (like today - it's my birthday... There's an ice cream cake from cold stone in my freezer. I'll have one slice after dinner and count on my family to polish the rest off.).
And, yes, LCHF, like calorie counting, needs to be something you are prepared to do forever, otherwise you will regain when you stop doing it. It's almost my three year low carb anniversary. Still loving this way of eating!
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willnorton wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »So, I'm sick of when people on here say they are struggling and someone on here suggests low carb and then another person berates them and says it's all about calories eat as much as you want but stay within the calories but heres the thing, did that and could not stay within my calories because carbs don't keep me satiated....they satisfy for an hour then I'm hungry again.. For example I used to have cheerios for breakfast but by first break at work (930) I was starving and usually grabbed a cookie or bag of chips...now I have 3 scrambled eggs with salsa (more calories) but I'm good till lunch!!I may have a small healthy snack like some Spitz or a handful of almonds but that's it!!!Now I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've lost 6 pounds in 2 and a half weeks doing this, it's working for me...so when someone on here suggests low care it is a VALID suggestion...the whole "eat whatever you want and stay within calorie goal" is not the ultimate answer so don't be quick to judge someone's suggestion.. Different lifestyles work for different people.
you keep doing what you are doing... dont ever doubt yourself... dont be afraid to eat fat... now I will tell you healthy fats are better.... but please dont be afraid of eating low carb high fat... be very careful with your macros.. i try to stay about 75% fat, 5% carb, 20% protein.... dont over eat on your protein... your body will turn that protein into sugars...think its called gluconeogenesis.....now... my personal story....
in 4 months I lost over 100 pounds... (not all water weight) .... i was taking 49 units of Lantus insulin a night.. i hated those shots..... i was taking Lisinopril and Verapamil...2 blood pressure meds and in the first 6 weeks, i got off the insulin and 1 of the blood pressure meds... it took about 4 months to get rid of the other blood pressure med... my blood pressure after the gym yesterday was 107/64..... my doctor still has me on Metformin ..he says that is just a good thing to take to keep my system running good... im ok with that..... im a new person.......
now i try to stay away from all the nasty fats... i do eat bacon from time to time but i eat lots of eggs and leaner meats.. my choice... i could eat regular hamburger but i chose to eat ground round... i eat lots of green leafy veggies.. ;lots of salads... i do the oil and vinegas mostly but i do eat Maries Chunky blue cheese dressing... i try not to eat a whole lot of cheese... i eat some Dukes mayo.... i stay away from toms, onions,,, carrots....
i love broccoli and cauliflower.....
i eat a good breakfast and sometimes have to make myself eat lunch.. i just dont get hungry.. oh i use the heck out of Kerry Gold unsalted butter on my veggies... eat some Daisy sourcream....
long story... i would love to talk to you about low carbing...... its my life now....
NOT ALL DIETS WORK FOR ALL PEOPLE... i firmly believe that.... some people think we are crazy to eat low carb high fat...... it works for me.. that is all i can say....
hope we can talk more....
Bill
This is great!!!So glad this is working for you!!! I don't have alot to loose but I find I have more energy on low carb than anything....cause I'm not always Starving cause when I am... I go straight to chips, cookies, McDonald's and Taco bell are my favourite fast food, I have no control when I'm at that point, low carb keeps me satiated....not satisfied I still crave a big Mac every day lol...but at least I can make better choices when I'm feeling satiated3 -
So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?34
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nutmegoreo wrote: »So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?
Boom. /thread
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nutmegoreo wrote: »So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?
Yes that's what I'm saying2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?
I think her point (and I suspect you understand this, even if you want to play coy) is that for her, and many others, restricting carbs helps with satiety, making it easier to create a deficit without going hungry. I think she realizes that she ate less than she burned, she's just saying that LCHF made it easier for her to do that.
/end thread indeed.
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How do you know I haven't tried it ?domgibson88 wrote: »Loosing 5 or 6 pounds of water is a start!!!!and I'm not struggling with the lifestyle so will keep going...all I'm saying is don't knock it till you try it
There are many methods to get to a calorie deficit so people find what works for them. No one is saying low carb doesn't work. It just may not work for some people. This is a diverse board with many people who have many styles of eating (I refuse to say WOD I hate that acronym, lol). Everyone wants to give their two cents so don't take it personal.
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For me I will try anything.Anything that works. The key is to keep it off. That is my problem. So its down to lifestyle change.2
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Calories are king. Whatever you need to eat to stay within the calories is up to you. Everyone's bodies are so different that of course the same macro ratios don't work for everyone. My husband needs PROTEIN to stay full. I need FIBER. So yes, I eat plenty of carbs. I don't eat white bread or carbs lacking fiber, but I do eat lots of whole grains because they keep me feeling full. My breakfast every morning is steel-cut oatmeal. I can eat the same calories' worth of eggs & bacon and feel like I'm starving within the hour. Hubby is exact opposite. He does better on low-er carb and higher protein/fat because that's how he feels full.
If we have pasta & meatballs, say, he eats a small portion of pasta and a bunch of meatballs. I eat a large portion of (whole wheat) pasta and a few meatballs. We are both full and happy. Low carb isn't bad, but it's not for everyone! I would turn into a fat raging monster if I had to eat low carb. But if it works for you, that's great!
Wherever your calories come from, that's up to you to figure out what YOUR body needs to make you stay full and be within your calorie limit. But the calories are what matter.7 -
What works for the majority doesn't make it a universal truth. There's more than one way to get to 4. 2+2 works but so does 8/2. With regards to low carbing, most people use it as an insurance they stay within a deficit. It's only more effective depending on who you're asking. I say experiment on yourself and find what works best for you, only you know how your body operates. I know that I'm much more efficient in the gym with higher carbs but on the days I'm less active say on an off day, my body doesn't necessarily require as much carbs. Calories are important and should be monitored, there's no doubt about that. But it's not the be all and end all. In my experience how your body digests what you consume also plays a key role.1
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domgibson88 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?
Yes that's what I'm saying
Most people here that I see advocating moderation recommend playing with macros to find the balance that is effective for the individual. You aren't saying anything different.
You said this was in response to a specific post. How is painting all people who advocate moderation with the same brush as this single poster helping anyone? You're calling out people who recommend moderation for something they didn't do. I'm just trying to get at the root of it all.2 -
BarbellzNBrotein wrote: »Except your rant has no basis because when most people talk about low carb, they are not speaking about a slight shift in macronutrients nor playing with macronutrients for personal satiety. They're talking about banning all "bad" carbs, which don't exist by the way, and only eating a small amount of complex carbs if at all.
I personally find that I do best with a higher fat/protein percentage on most days myself, but does that mean I'm going to recommend my personal macro split to others? Nope. Sometimes I'm just fine on a 50C, 30F, 20P split, other times my body craves a 30C, 40F, 30P split. That all has to do with my personal needs depending on what exercises I've done that day, my menstrual cycle, etc.
When people are struggling with feeling full, one of the first things recommended here is to make sure that person is getting enough fat and protein in their diet so I don't know which forum you've been reading but it sure can't be this one. The only time I see anyone discourage anything related to low carb is when someone posts they aren't losing weight regardless of doing everything "right" and someone comes along suggesting to cut carbs as if that's the solution and not the improper logging, underestimation of food intake and/or overestimation of exercise calories that's hindering the person to begin with.
Furthermore, unless you are severely obese, you did not lose six pounds of fat in two and a half weeks; you lost mostly water with a bit of fat. This is another reason people get all aboard the low carb hype train. They lose a bunch of water weight within the first few weeks, it tapers off, they reintroduce carbs, "gain" weight and all of a sudden they're back to square one. If eating less carbs works for your hunger levels then that's great for you and keep doing what you're doing, but in the end the only thing that will work for you and everyone else that wants to lose weight is a calorie deficit, regardless of your personal macro split.
I get your point, I really do but it's difficult to adhere to anything you have to say with the undertone of bitterness your displaying here. Are you trying to help folks or are you just trying to come across like a guru? Lighten up a little.
I am far from a guru and don't even think of myself as anything of the sort. Additionally, since it is text, I can see how my post may be interpreted as one with an undertone of bitterness but I didn't have that emotion when I was typing a response to the post. I'm a very straightforward individual who attempted to lay out all of my points without sugar coating or put downs. Some people on this forum have found my posts to be helpful, others have found me too harsh; the only thing I can do is post my thoughts as they occur.7
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