low carb Does work!!!!
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Why is this being treated as anything other than another mean people thread (tm)? It's yet another post aimed to stop people from giving advice, presented without the context of this mythical other thread, designed to do nothing more than shut down those of us trying to help. This should have been posted to the other thread instead of as a separate post berating everyone.24
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diannethegeek wrote: »Why is this being treated as anything other than another mean people thread (tm)? It's yet another post aimed to stop people from giving advice, presented without the context of this mythical other thread, designed to do nothing more than shut down those of us trying to help. This should have been posted to the other thread instead of as a separate post berating everyone.
And it's not even Friday!0 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »
Low carb means any kind of meat in the market, most veggies, many fruits, any full fat dairy product, dark chocolate, seeds and nuts of all kinds. Okay, 85% of the "junk food" in the grocery store is off limits, but I'd have a hard time fitting soda, chips, and candy into my calorie limits regardless. Dining out is easy - some kind of meat plus salad and veggies. It's as hard or as easy as you make it.
I regularly eat berries with heavy cream. I just skip the shortcake. Leaves room for more berries and more cream
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Really?
1 cup cooked spaghetti - 200 calories
2 tbsp butter - 200 calories
Which would be more filling?
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I was on a so called "low carb" diet and I have never been fatter. I think it really does depend on what works for you. I enjoy carbs such as potatoes, rice, beans and whole foods.4
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In for what's wrong with high protein if no medical issues4
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queenliz99 wrote: »
Be right over!
You're bringing the wine, right?1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »
You're bringing the wine, right?
No that's me.4 -
And ketchup = comfort food.
My friend is Czech and she puts ketchup on everything. EVERYTHING!2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »
No that's me.
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I better get some more groceries! @queenliz99 must be bringing the ice cream2 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »
Jut trying to figure out why she's making a distinction between LC and LCHF. I genuinely don't understand. A LC diet that is also low in fat, is by default going to be high in protein, which is not good. LC should be high fat. Just waiting to see where Stef is going with this, lol.
I believe it stems from this comment........
You might not have to restrict carbs for satiety. I do. I used to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruit, modest amounts of lean meats and low fat or fat free dairy, very little added sugar ou might not have to restrict carbs for satiety. I do. I used to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruit, modest amounts of lean meats and low fat or fat free dairy, very little added sugar very little added fat..
Aahhh, I see where you are confused. Back in the 1970's a low calorie diet was either low fat or low carb. An elimination diet was the easiest way to count calories before the help of websites like this one. But most people today realize that lower calorie diet isn't ALWAYS low fat. This is old fashioned.
Some people need to choose to lower fat (reflux, gallbladder, etc). Fat is very filling for lots of folks, whether they eat carbs or not.
You changed 2 macros.......reduced carbs a great deal and added more fat. Was it your low fat diet that wasn't filling....or was it the high(er) carbs that triggered hunger?2 -
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amusedmonkey wrote: »
I don't know, I've been moderating for 3 years and I'm not finding it hard. It's all about finding the easiest way to cut calories for a person, and if that's low carb then great. For me it's moderate carbs and that's also great. Nothing special about any particular diet. This is like arguing which food tastes better. Many people love steak, but I find it revolting, there is no right answer outside of personal preference.
Exactly!
I find LCHF as the easiest woe ever. Trying to moderate did not work well for me. We need to find the diet that works best for our taste and our health. It's going to differ from person to person.
This is where low carbers get frustrated with the minority (not saying you) who respond to LCHF posts with: "Why?" or "You don't have to." or "It's not sustaniable." or "It's not healthy." For some of us, we do it because it works better, and we have to do it because other ways haven't worked, and we'll continue to do it for years and become healthier. Just like those who simply cut calories without any food substitutions.
I agree that it does come down to personal preference, but I would add that it also comes down to the health needs of your body.6 -
And by the way...I always eat something on my break cause I have a boring desk job and I'm a huge foodie and when I get to have a snack I look more forward to my breaks.. It's ten minutes so a handful of seeds or almonds does the trick... It's a mind thing isn't that why were all here??0
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Nope, I'm here for the cat gifs.8
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WinoGelato wrote: »
Just straight butter?
Didn't say it would be particularly appealing by itself (neither would plain pasta, tho), but yes. A couple Tbsps of butter would be more filling (and would keep me full longer) than a cup of pasta. May not be as much volume, but really neither is enough volume to "fill" me up. The butter would have a lot more staying power tho. With the pasta I'd be hangry two hours later.
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domgibson88 wrote: »And by the way...I always eat something on my break cause I have a boring desk job and I'm a huge foodie and when I get to have a snack I look more forward to my breaks.. It's ten minutes so a handful of seeds or almonds does the trick... It's a mind thing isn't that why were all here??
Have you tried getting up and taking a lap around the building on those 10 minute breaks? If you truly aren't hungry and are eating out of boredom, I find that getting up and moving does more for me than eating a snack, no matter what the snack is.4 -
Well, I am Yugoslavian. That may explain my love of ketchup? LOL I do limit it, of course, because it's high in sugar and salt. *sigh*Alluminati wrote: »
My friend is Czech and she puts ketchup on everything. EVERYTHING!
I cannot get enough ketchup packets if/when I get fries at a fast food joint. Holy hell. Never enough.
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WinoGelato wrote: »
Have you tried getting up and taking a lap around the building on those 10 minute breaks? If you truly aren't hungry and are eating out of boredom, I find that getting up and moving does more for me than eating a snack, no matter what the snack is.
I bike to work everyday and get lots of excersise, I mountain bike once a week and have a personal trainer that I hired two weeks ago imagine that, that keeps me on my toes.3 -
" It just upsets me that some people on here think they're way is the absolute answer and it's not." from the OP and there is an absolute answer CI<CO.....going low carb doesn't guarantee weight loss.
not all of them
Yes... to lose weight CI<CO. I don't think anyone is disputing that. For some (not all, and I think I and the OP have acknowledged this) LC makes reducing CI much, much easier. CICO is not a method. It is a mathematical idea. Whether you create CI<CO by going low carb, by going vegan, by weighing and measuring and counting, etc, yes, you still need to create a deficit to lose weight. There is more than one way to create that deficit.
Which LC diets that are not high fat are you referring to?1 -
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domgibson88 wrote: »
I bike to work everyday and get lots of excersise, I mountain bike once a week and have a personal trainer that I hired two weeks ago imagine that, that keeps me on my toes.
Why have you replied to this with snark? Offering advice about a minor behavioural change isn't suggesting you're lazy. It's a distraction technique, a genuine method to break behavioural habits, like snacking when not hungry.
Also still in to find out what this other thread is where low carb was totally denounced by the "mean people".7 -
I believe it stems from this comment........
You might not have to restrict carbs for satiety. I do. I used to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruit, modest amounts of lean meats and low fat or fat free dairy, very little added sugar ou might not have to restrict carbs for satiety. I do. I used to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruit, modest amounts of lean meats and low fat or fat free dairy, very little added sugar very little added fat..
Aahhh, I see where you are confused. Back in the 1970's a low calorie diet was either low fat or low carb. An elimination diet was the easiest way to count calories before the help of websites like this one. But most people today realize that lower calorie diet isn't ALWAYS low fat. This is old fashioned.
Some people need to choose to lower fat (reflux, gallbladder, etc). Fat is very filling for lots of folks, whether they eat carbs or not.
You changed 2 macros.......reduced carbs a great deal and added more fat. Was it your low fat diet that wasn't filling....or was it the high(er) carbs that triggered hunger?
I said low fat or fat free *dairy*. My diet previously was between 20-30% fat. Not super low fat by any stretch. I know that if and when I go over 100g of carbs in a day, I start feeling that vague hunger and the cravings come back. This is while keeping fat still over 50% of my diet. So, no I wasn't on a "low fat" diet, just lowER fat, and yeah, even getting ample fat, carbs cause me hunger. Don't know why that might be, but I am glad to have figured it out. It may or may not be the case for any other given person.1 -
domgibson88 wrote: »And by the way...I always eat something on my break cause I have a boring desk job and I'm a huge foodie and when I get to have a snack I look more forward to my breaks.. It's ten minutes so a handful of seeds or almonds does the trick... It's a mind thing isn't that why were all here??
This makes me kind of jealous... I really love nuts but a handful of almonds feels very unsatisfying to me. That's why I only have them as a part of food now, like nut stuffed dates or to top oatmeal, or bank calories for them and have at least two big handfuls. Eating a handful of nuts feels like eating one chip and expecting to be happy. In fact, I can happily eat one chip but never a handful of nuts.6 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »
Yes... to lose weight CI<CO. I don't think anyone is disputing that. For some (not all, and I think I and the OP have acknowledged this) LC makes reducing CI much, much easier. CICO is not a method. It is a mathematical idea. Whether you create CI<CO by going low carb, by going vegan, by weighing and measuring and counting, etc, yes, you still need to create a deficit to lose weight. There is more than one way to create that deficit.
Which LC diets that are not high fat are you referring to?
I agree that the way of creating the deficit is largely up to the individual to determine what will work best for them.
Couldn't a person be LC and High Protein? I'm not saying it is advisable or that there is a common approach, I'm just assuming that with three macros to play with, if you reduce one, you could increase either of the other two, right?
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domgibson88 wrote: »
I bike to work everyday and get lots of excersise, I mountain bike once a week and have a personal trainer that I hired two weeks ago imagine that, that keeps me on my toes.
Okay...
I wasn't suggesting you aren't exercising in other ways. It was a simple question, something that I have found useful for myself.
As much as I love sarcasm, I don't think it is particularly warranted here.2 -
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WinoGelato wrote: »Couldn't a person be LC and High Protein? I'm not saying it is advisable or that there is a common approach, I'm just assuming that with three macros to play with, if you reduce one, you could increase either of the other two, right?
Yes! I fluctuate my carbs and proteins far more than fat. I like to keep my fat intake no more than 20%, preferably much less, and I'm ok with increasing protein (more common) or carbs to keep fat intake in check.
It means I get to eat more!
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