Addicted to diet coke.. help :(
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What concerns me isn't the drinking soda, but the lack of water. We need it! If you've never had it regularly your whole life, you probably don't realize what it's like to not be dehydrated, which effects you on both the physical and mental level. I REALLY REALLY think you should try to learn to drink it, even if you start with just a few ounces a day. I think the suggestion above to drink one glass of water for every glass of coke is a good one. I know lots of people flavor their water--maybe you could try that! Or like I said, start with just a few ounces a day and try to work your way up to more. Water is very important to our mental and physical well being--dehydration makes you very crabby--I am urging you to overcome this.
She is getting plenty of water, she is drinking 4L's of diet soda a day.
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What concerns me isn't the drinking soda, but the lack of water. We need it! If you've never had it regularly your whole life, you probably don't realize what it's like to not be dehydrated, which effects you on both the physical and mental level. I REALLY REALLY think you should try to learn to drink it, even if you start with just a few ounces a day. I think the suggestion above to drink one glass of water for every glass of coke is a good one. I know lots of people flavor their water--maybe you could try that! Or like I said, start with just a few ounces a day and try to work your way up to more. Water is very important to our mental and physical well being--dehydration makes you very crabby--I am urging you to overcome this.
I'm not against learning to drink plain water, but what's the difference between adding flavoring to water and drinking diet coke? Diet coke is flavored water. Adding flavor doesn't remove the water.28 -
What concerns me isn't the drinking soda, but the lack of water. We need it! If you've never had it regularly your whole life, you probably don't realize what it's like to not be dehydrated, which effects you on both the physical and mental level. I REALLY REALLY think you should try to learn to drink it, even if you start with just a few ounces a day. I think the suggestion above to drink one glass of water for every glass of coke is a good one. I know lots of people flavor their water--maybe you could try that! Or like I said, start with just a few ounces a day and try to work your way up to more. Water is very important to our mental and physical well being--dehydration makes you very crabby--I am urging you to overcome this.
You do realize that diet soda counts as water right? All liquids do even the ones in food.11 -
What concerns me isn't the drinking soda, but the lack of water. We need it! If you've never had it regularly your whole life, you probably don't realize what it's like to not be dehydrated, which effects you on both the physical and mental level. I REALLY REALLY think you should try to learn to drink it, even if you start with just a few ounces a day. I think the suggestion above to drink one glass of water for every glass of coke is a good one. I know lots of people flavor their water--maybe you could try that! Or like I said, start with just a few ounces a day and try to work your way up to more. Water is very important to our mental and physical well being--dehydration makes you very crabby--I am urging you to overcome this.
Diet soda is 98% water.17 -
healthy491 wrote: »RaptorMommy wrote: »That stuff is chemically balanced with the caffeine and sugar and who knows what else to make you crave it.
That makes no sense, whatsoever.
Diet soda doesn't have sugar, and some have caffeine but usually less (per volume) than coffee. Craving something doesn't always mean that it's bad, you might just really like it and want more. I'm craving cabbage right now, most definitely not because it's been modified to make me want more of it.
To the OP, you're going to get a lot of people throwing fake science at you to support their beliefs that diet sodas are bad. While I agree that you might be drinking so much of them that it'll hurt your teeth, they won't make you gain weight. Diet sodas personally help me to keep my calories in check by cutting my craving for sweets.
Thanks so much for answering me
! Its like everytime I am convinced that diet soda is fine , someone comes up with an article about how bad it is for me !
Just ask them to provide the peer reviewed study. Personally, I am trying to cut down on diet soda to protect my teeth and pocketbook. I'm on the app so can't see if you are British, but one great replacement is iced tea. Maybe with a single pack of sugar which adds 15 calories. I'm not sure if iced tea is considered sacreligious or sacreLICIOUS in GB these days, but it is worth a try.3 -
rainbowbow wrote: »doesn't cause weight gain, doesn't cause diabetes, doesn't cause cancer, etc. etc. etc.
The only worry i'd have consuming the amount you're talking about is the damage to your teeth or potential Reflux/Acid symptoms.
All of this, plus drinking 4 liters a day is a considerable amount of caffeine each day. I haven't seen any evidence that it slows down metabolism, but it might be a good idea to try to moderate your intake a bit more. I personally drink 1 can a day, and it hasn't affected weight loss one bit.
Gotta ask, though...how do you not burn out drinking that much? I'm not sure I'd able to look at another diet soda after a few days of drinking 4L a day..haha (I can't drink that much plain water every say either..I have to switch it up.) I'm not much on all the carbonation, though, but that's just me.2 -
I've been drinking diet soda for at least 30 years. Every single day, multiple cans. 30 years of artificial sweetener and I have no negative health problems because of this. I've lost a ton of weight while drinking a 2 liter + a day. There is nothing wrong with it.6
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healthy491 wrote: »RaptorMommy wrote: »That stuff is chemically balanced with the caffeine and sugar and who knows what else to make you crave it.
That makes no sense, whatsoever.
Diet soda doesn't have sugar, and some have caffeine but usually less (per volume) than coffee. Craving something doesn't always mean that it's bad, you might just really like it and want more. I'm craving cabbage right now, most definitely not because it's been modified to make me want more of it.
To the OP, you're going to get a lot of people throwing fake science at you to support their beliefs that diet sodas are bad. While I agree that you might be drinking so much of them that it'll hurt your teeth, they won't make you gain weight. Diet sodas personally help me to keep my calories in check by cutting my craving for sweets.
Thanks so much for answering me ! Its like everytime I am convinced that diet soda is fine , someone comes up with an article about how bad it is for me !
well, you know. People can come up with articles talking about how aliens built the pyramids and how Obama is a reptilian who was also born in Africa and is a Muslim.10 -
RaptorMommy wrote: »It took my husband 3 separate attempts to kick it. If people brush it off like its no big deal, just know that its not in your head. I watched my husband try and fail twice. Its no joke. That stuff is chemically balanced with the caffeine and sugar and who knows what else to make you crave it. BUT I will say, he quit all soda, has been diet soda (and soda free) for years and is very happy he quit. You don't realize the hold it has on you until you stop drinking it! And he says that now that he's done with it, he really doesn't know what he liked about it. He's had a little since then, and other sodas too, and he can't even drink them any more. We don't drink any sweet beverages, so no sweetened coffee/tea, no soda or juice. We do drink seltzer, and we put stuff in our water like fruit and lemon and such. I say go for it, and fight the good fight! You will save a bunch of money without it, and you will feel better for having done it!
Are you aware that the OP is talking about diet Coke or did you miss that tidbit?5 -
Ahh Facebook science..... Making us all dumber 1 idiot at a time.24
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I would tell my dad to *kitten* off but, maybe that's not such a good idea3
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Well, I would naturally be suspicious towards any type of excess. A healthy lifestyle comes with balanced diet and moderation in everything.
You don't need to drink water as your daily water consumption goal is met by far with just your diet soda intake.
Besides, please let us all remind that there is also water in food. The European Food Safety Authority recommends 2 litres of water per day for females and 2.5 litres for males.
There is an important portion of that water coming from food naturally i.e. you usually don't have to drink a bottle of 2 litres per day on top of your food.
However, I would be concerned about the type of diet soda you drink and what sweeteners are being used for that soda.
As an example, although aspartame was recognised as being safe for consumption, the acceptable daily intake has been set at 40mg per kg of bodyweight.
Not all artificial sweeteners are equal from a health perspective.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/the-truth-about-artificial-sweeteners.aspx
The other concern would be tooth decay:
http://www.colgate.com/en/us/oc/oral-health/basics/nutrition-and-oral-health/article/sugar-free-drinks-are-they-safe-for-teeth-0115Although they often contain no sugar, diet sodas usually cause about the same amount of dental erosion as regular sodas.healthy491 wrote: »
Thanks a lot but the problem is I cant stand water.. it makes me sick
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »It contains aspartame, which causes cancer:
http://www.3dmusclejourney.com/aspartame-jordan-day/Cancer Proven from Aspartame
Arguably the most spoken of talk point of many anti-aspartame zealots are the experiments done on rats. *The link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/ provides a ton of information on studies regarding lab testing involving aspartame and rats, yielding inconclusive evidence against popularized theories. Included are a couple just to prove a point:
In 1981, Ishii conducted research dosing aspartame to rats. He used 86 males and 86 females, dosing 0, 1, 2, or 4 g/kg bw/day from weeks 6 to 110 . The statistical variance in bodyweight discrepancy when comparing a rat to a man needs to be taken into account, and dosage would still remain proportionate to the body weight of the subject. The highest dose in this study was 4 grams per kilogram of bodyweight per day. This means that for a 200 pound man (90.909 kilograms) times 4 grams of aspartame per kilo gives you…363.63 grams every single day. One final computation to get back to milligrams so we are on the same playing field as our previous studies: 1000 mg= 1 g, so that gives us 363,363 milligrams of aspartame administered to a 200 pound man. Do you remember what the average consumption of an American is? 5 milligrams per kilogram of bodyweight, so for our example, 455 milligrams. The most interesting part of this would not even be the insanely high dosage of the sweetener, but that there was no increase in the incidence of brain tumors. So at literally 800 times the dose that one would consume on a day to day basis, over the duration of more than two years, there was nothing significant to compare to the control group. Just as a friendly reminder, a can of Diet Coke has 180 milligrams of aspartame.
There were though, some studies that indicate negative effects, cancer incidences, and the like. The thing with those is that they can be easily refuted, based on the sole understanding of dosage. In a popular study used to bash this sweetener, in order for there to be a statistical significance, the dosage of aspartame used was 2,500 mg/kg, which simply is not plausible. At the end of the day, everything is toxic at the right dose. That is like getting a study published when 50 subjects aged 30-40 received a dose of 3,000 grams of salt intravenously to see the mortality rate. (Then the headlines on the news would be “Study confirms that salt may lead to an early death.”) Looking over a toxicology report showing the LD50 (essentially the dose that will kill 50% of a given population) it is easy to see that even things you would never think could bring death, can, at the right dose. News reports over the years show people overdosing on water and drugs but anything can be deadly, in the right amount. Caffeine being roughly 200 mg/kg of bodyweight and Vitamin D being 10 mg/kg. The dosage makes the poison.
The bottom line is that there is simply not enough evidence to prove aspartame as carcinogenic over not, and even those that have even the slightest hint in their desired direction are easily picked apart and dissected down to nothing.
So, to sum this up, I figured it might be a little easier to relate all this back to the main point, our safety as consumers.
That is simply not true.
This study from 1996 "had very little scientific basis and later studies showed that aspartame was in fact safe to consume".
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/the-truth-about-aspartame.aspx6 -
BreezeDoveal wrote: »It contains aspartame, which causes cancer:
http://www.3dmusclejourney.com/aspartame-jordan-day/Cancer Proven from Aspartame
Arguably the most spoken of talk point of many anti-aspartame zealots are the experiments done on rats. *The link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/ provides a ton of information on studies regarding lab testing involving aspartame and rats, yielding inconclusive evidence against popularized theories. Included are a couple just to prove a point:
In 1981, Ishii conducted research dosing aspartame to rats. He used 86 males and 86 females, dosing 0, 1, 2, or 4 g/kg bw/day from weeks 6 to 110 . The statistical variance in bodyweight discrepancy when comparing a rat to a man needs to be taken into account, and dosage would still remain proportionate to the body weight of the subject. The highest dose in this study was 4 grams per kilogram of bodyweight per day. This means that for a 200 pound man (90.909 kilograms) times 4 grams of aspartame per kilo gives you…363.63 grams every single day. One final computation to get back to milligrams so we are on the same playing field as our previous studies: 1000 mg= 1 g, so that gives us 363,363 milligrams of aspartame administered to a 200 pound man. Do you remember what the average consumption of an American is? 5 milligrams per kilogram of bodyweight, so for our example, 455 milligrams. The most interesting part of this would not even be the insanely high dosage of the sweetener, but that there was no increase in the incidence of brain tumors. So at literally 800 times the dose that one would consume on a day to day basis, over the duration of more than two years, there was nothing significant to compare to the control group. Just as a friendly reminder, a can of Diet Coke has 180 milligrams of aspartame.
There were though, some studies that indicate negative effects, cancer incidences, and the like. The thing with those is that they can be easily refuted, based on the sole understanding of dosage. In a popular study used to bash this sweetener, in order for there to be a statistical significance, the dosage of aspartame used was 2,500 mg/kg, which simply is not plausible. At the end of the day, everything is toxic at the right dose. That is like getting a study published when 50 subjects aged 30-40 received a dose of 3,000 grams of salt intravenously to see the mortality rate. (Then the headlines on the news would be “Study confirms that salt may lead to an early death.”) Looking over a toxicology report showing the LD50 (essentially the dose that will kill 50% of a given population) it is easy to see that even things you would never think could bring death, can, at the right dose. News reports over the years show people overdosing on water and drugs but anything can be deadly, in the right amount. Caffeine being roughly 200 mg/kg of bodyweight and Vitamin D being 10 mg/kg. The dosage makes the poison.
The bottom line is that there is simply not enough evidence to prove aspartame as carcinogenic over not, and even those that have even the slightest hint in their desired direction are easily picked apart and dissected down to nothing.
So, to sum this up, I figured it might be a little easier to relate all this back to the main point, our safety as consumers.
A lot has changed in 35 years. https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary5 -
It is hard, as I was addicted too but you can do it! There is nothing but POSITIVES that can come out of putting fewer chemicals in your body be it, food or drinks! Good luck! 0
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Conniebythesea70 wrote: »It is hard, as I was addicted too but you can do it! There is nothing but POSITIVES that can come out of putting fewer chemicals in your body be it, food or drinks! Good luck!
Do you mean all chemicals? Including hydrogen dioxide?16
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