Addicted to diet coke.. help :(
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soufauxgirl wrote: »I was a diet coke addict, I just weaned myself off it. Looking at the black tar like substance I used to drink makes me shudder and wanna slap myself silly lol. Just throw it away and drink water.
Must be some crappy tar you've been around if diet coke seems tarlike to you.4 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »MissJanet55 wrote: »I'm not one to argue on internet forums, but there is a lot of documentation.
This science paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/
And this piece on safefood, although this group obviously has a point of view:
http://www.safefood.org.nz/aspartaddict.html
An FDA paper on aspartame toxicity:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
And many more. There are also pieces saying it is perfectly safe, so pick your poison. But one thing is sure - giving it up is not going to hurt you.
I saw a lot of articles that say it is not harmful also. It is confusing because studies are inconclusive.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/artificial-sweeteners/
Oh! I read the Harvard article wrong. It says, "The health BENEFITS of diet drinks are inconclusive, with research showing mixed findings."
This article is referring to all artificial sweeteners not just the aspartame in a diet Coke.
I do worry about the toxins which are probably being handled well in smaller quantities, but what about any cumulative, long term effects?
There are no toxins in diet coke.
Just the excitotoxins unless those are mythological.
Explain what you mean. Perhaps might want to look up what toxin means.
Toxin: a poisonous substance that is a specific product of the metabolic activities of a living organism and is usually very unstable, notably toxic when introduced into the tissues.
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If people would use the search feature before starting redundant threads like this, they'd see that all of their questions have been answered time and time again, and then you and others trying to refute woo with actual fact wouldn't get so darned frustrated.Aaron_K123 wrote: »I should stop posting on this thread though, I've done this topic to death and therefore just end up getting frustrated by it.
I can dream, can't I?
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I'm addicted to Diet Pepsi, diet soda isn't going to cause weight gain. What causes weight gain is eating more calories than you Burn. What's bad for you is all of the aspartame and caffeine. Diet Pepsi doesn't have aspartame anymore and you can choose a caffeine free option. Also crystal light drinks are 5 calories a serving and are a good substitute.0
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snickerscharlie wrote: »
If people would use the search feature before starting redundant threads like this, they'd see that all of their questions have been answered time and time again, and then you and others trying to refute woo with actual fact wouldn't get so darned frustrated.Aaron_K123 wrote: »I should stop posting on this thread though, I've done this topic to death and therefore just end up getting frustrated by it.
I can dream, can't I?
Even informing themselves how much of something is in it would half the replies to those kinds of threads.0 -
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queenliz99 wrote: »
^ The only appropriate response to a number of nutrition threads6 -
I always keep a two-liter of tap water iced down in my refrigerator. It's free and refreshing. And it has more purposes and benefits than a soda can provide.2
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Diet coke is chemicals. Why do we want to drink chemicals. They make it taste so good. I would slowly ween myself off of it. If we drink chemicals we will damage our body. Please take care of yourself, you are worth it!!0
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Diet coke is chemicals. Why do we want to drink chemicals. They make it taste so good. I would slowly ween myself off of it. If we drink chemicals we will damage our body. Please take care of yourself, you are worth it!!
The biggest chemical in diet soda is dihydrogen monoxide, which is found in nearly everything12 -
JayWillis99 wrote: »There's a difference between a (1) diet soda and a (2) diet caffeine-free soda. The caffeine-free soda solves the problem of caffeine. And it's usually the same price as the soda. But many still claim that diet sodas maintain the hunger and the craving for more of all food, not just sweets. The science backs it up, that people who drink sodas crave a greater amount of all foods [science]. But then again, you are filling yourself up to the point of the gag-reflex if you drink 4 liters or more of anything. So the diet soda will help you if you drink excessive amounts of it, while the soda won't help if you drink only 12 oz or 32 oz. [anecdotal]. Finally, there's often a note on the side of the container that says how many milligrams of caffeine is in the drink. Compare Red Bull to Diet Pepsi. I notice many of the 2 liter products do post the milligram amount of caffeine. So if you cut down on the posted caffeine, and increase the total liters, you should be fine. No I'm not a physician or a personal trainer.
Caffeine improves performance in endurance sports, helps increase focus, and helps keep people awake. Why exactly is caffeine in moderation bad? As for the cravings and appetite points, I think you'll find that many of us don't experience that issue at all, and the science on that isn't as clear as you imply.
ETA: I have to track this down and read the actual study, but the first video in the link below claims they've found a major link between caffeine consumption and reduction in suicide rates. From personal experience and my morning moods, I'd think there would be a reduction in random murders, but hey . . .
http://www.medicaldaily.com/drinking-too-much-water-can-be-deadly-new-guidelines-healthy-water-consumption-warns-340604
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I drink diet iced tea. I gave up soda completely years ago. I have 1 to 2 cups a day. But I mostly drink water. Try adding some artificial flavor to it. I like the peach tea you can add to them. It's only 5 calories.0
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JayWillis99 wrote: »
- There's a difference between a (1) diet soda and a (2) diet caffeine-free soda. The caffeine-free soda solves the problem of caffeine. And it's usually the same price as the soda. But many still claim that diet sodas maintain the hunger and the craving for more of all food, not just sweets. The science backs it up, that people who drink sodas crave a greater amount of all foods [science].
I swore I had said my piece in this thread and was going to stay out of it, but can you post your peer-reviewed, scientific literature sources for the claim that 'people who drink sodas crave a greater amount of all foods'? That seems like a very important claim, and I'd like to read the research behind it.3 -
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Okay , honestly , I dont think we'll get to a conclusion any time soon. I think it would be a good idea that before you imply something about a product , you make sure you have PROOF and sources to back up your idea.2
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JayWillis99 wrote: »
I would like to see that/those peer reviewed article(s) on this one as well. Can you please share, since you are making such a claim?
I always thought that diet soda made me hungrier, but soon learned that it's the bubbly effect in any carbonated drinks due to Gastritis and GERD.1 -
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I have got to stop clicking on these threads. They make me weep for how little basic scientific understanding that adults have absorbed in their lifetime...13
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I am one that agrees that that we need to cut sodas of all varieties if we want to feel good. That being said, I have found that if I go to water with fresh squeezed lemon in it daily I do okay. Doing it that way, I didn't seem to have the headaches and general irritability while leaving my dr. pepper. Some people have said that perhaps it is because the lemon in the water helped to detox and flush my body. I don't know. I just know that I was able to leave my good friend, dr. pepper behind by doing it this way. Overall, I feel much, much better. No scientific evidence, just my own testimonial.1
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Diet coke is chemicals. Why do we want to drink chemicals. They make it taste so good. I would slowly ween myself off of it. If we drink chemicals we will damage our body. Please take care of yourself, you are worth it!!
The biggest chemical in diet soda is dihydrogen monoxide, which is found in nearly everything
Hyponatremia can kill. People need to cut back on that stuff.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/drinking-too-much-water-can-be-deadly-new-guidelines-healthy-water-consumption-warns-3406043 -
There is an increasing correlation between artificial sweeteners/diet sodas and weight gain and type 2 diabetes. One study I recently read noted that when we eat sweet things our digestive tracts increase the absorption of calories and that this may be one factor in weight gain. "Sweet" includes artificial sweeteners. If I can find that article I'll post a link.
The brain regulates hunger and satiety. It is a super complex process. No one on this site knows definitively the effects of artificial sweeteners on this process. With the increasing number of studies showing an increased risk for weight gain and diabetes (and therefore cardiovascular disease) we can make a strong guess that there is a negative effect on our metabolism. It's not worth the risk for me.
The idea that nothing is wrong with the regular consumption of sugary or diet sodas or that they don't cause side effects is ridiculous. Addiction is not normal. Neither are rotting teeth, digestive difficulties, kidney stones, nor the cellular damage that the preservatives are known to cause.
Here are easy links I've found regarding this issue from reasonably reputable sources.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/?_r=0 https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/artificial-sweeteners/
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you1 -
I am one that agrees that that we need to cut sodas of all varieties if we want to feel good. That being said, I have found that if I go to water with fresh squeezed lemon in it daily I do okay. Doing it that way, I didn't seem to have the headaches and general irritability while leaving my dr. pepper. Some people have said that perhaps it is because the lemon in the water helped to detox and flush my body. I don't know. I just know that I was able to leave my good friend, dr. pepper behind by doing it this way. Overall, I feel much, much better. No scientific evidence, just my own testimonial.
Your kidneys cleanse your blood every day. If you have somehow ingested toxins, all the lemon in the world is not going to do one single thing for you. Except give you some Vitamin C. 3 -
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So much woo, it hurts to read.6
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There is an increasing correlation between artificial sweeteners/diet sodas and weight gain and type 2 diabetes. One study I recently read noted that when we eat sweet things our digestive tracts increase the absorption of calories and that this may be one factor in weight gain. "Sweet" includes artificial sweeteners. If I can find that article I'll post a link.
The brain regulates hunger and satiety. It is a super complex process. No one on this site knows definitively the effects of artificial sweeteners on this process. With the increasing number of studies showing an increased risk for weight gain and diabetes (and therefore cardiovascular disease) we can make a strong guess that there is a negative effect on our metabolism. It's not worth the risk for me.
The idea that nothing is wrong with the regular consumption of sugary or diet sodas or that they don't cause side effects is ridiculous. Addiction is not normal. Neither are rotting teeth, digestive difficulties, kidney stones, nor the cellular damage that the preservatives are known to cause.
Here are easy links I've found regarding this issue from reasonably reputable sources.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/?_r=0 https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/artificial-sweeteners/
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you
You are getting your information from blogs? and newspapers? and magazines?2 -
There is an increasing correlation between artificial sweeteners/diet sodas and weight gain and type 2 diabetes. One study I recently read noted that when we eat sweet things our digestive tracts increase the absorption of calories and that this may be one factor in weight gain. "Sweet" includes artificial sweeteners. If I can find that article I'll post a link.
The brain regulates hunger and satiety. It is a super complex process. No one on this site knows definitively the effects of artificial sweeteners on this process. With the increasing number of studies showing an increased risk for weight gain and diabetes (and therefore cardiovascular disease) we can make a strong guess that there is a negative effect on our metabolism. It's not worth the risk for me.
The idea that nothing is wrong with the regular consumption of sugary or diet sodas or that they don't cause side effects is ridiculous. Addiction is not normal. Neither are rotting teeth, digestive difficulties, kidney stones, nor the cellular damage that the preservatives are known to cause.
Here are easy links I've found regarding this issue from reasonably reputable sources.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/?_r=0 https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/artificial-sweeteners/
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you
I worked up from the bottom and had to stop there. The last one talks about "detoxing" and the second from the bottom included the quote below.
“While they are not magic bullets, smart use of non-nutritive sweeteners could help you reduce added sugars in your diet, therefore lowering the number of calories you eat. Reducing calories could help you attain and maintain a healthy body weight, and thereby lower your risk of heart disease and diabetes,” said Dr. Christopher Gardner, an associate professor of medicine at Stanford University in California, in a press release accompanying the scientific statement.
What is the concern again? Oh, wild speculation about things there is little evidence for? Okay, got it. Please read nutrition articles carefully, check the links, and then look for counter arguments. These things are usually designed to draw people in, but the bodies of the articles are often counter to the wild claims in the titles.2 -
I am one that agrees that that we need to cut sodas of all varieties if we want to feel good. That being said, I have found that if I go to water with fresh squeezed lemon in it daily I do okay. Doing it that way, I didn't seem to have the headaches and general irritability while leaving my dr. pepper. Some people have said that perhaps it is because the lemon in the water helped to detox and flush my body. I don't know. I just know that I was able to leave my good friend, dr. pepper behind by doing it this way. Overall, I feel much, much better. No scientific evidence, just my own testimonial.
Detoxing one's body is a myth.
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There is an increasing correlation between artificial sweeteners/diet sodas and weight gain and type 2 diabetes. One study I recently read noted that when we eat sweet things our digestive tracts increase the absorption of calories and that this may be one factor in weight gain. "Sweet" includes artificial sweeteners. If I can find that article I'll post a link.
The brain regulates hunger and satiety. It is a super complex process. No one on this site knows definitively the effects of artificial sweeteners on this process. With the increasing number of studies showing an increased risk for weight gain and diabetes (and therefore cardiovascular disease) we can make a strong guess that there is a negative effect on our metabolism. It's not worth the risk for me.
The idea that nothing is wrong with the regular consumption of sugary or diet sodas or that they don't cause side effects is ridiculous. Addiction is not normal. Neither are rotting teeth, digestive difficulties, kidney stones, nor the cellular damage that the preservatives are known to cause.
Here are easy links I've found regarding this issue from reasonably reputable sources.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/?_r=0 https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/artificial-sweeteners/
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you
Your sources are just other people's opinions, not scientifically based and peer reviewed articles. All of us have opinions, but that does not create fact.4 -
MissJanet55 wrote: »I'm not one to argue on internet forums, but there is a lot of documentation.
This science paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/
And this piece on safefood, although this group obviously has a point of view:
http://www.safefood.org.nz/aspartaddict.html
An FDA paper on aspartame toxicity:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
And many more. There are also pieces saying it is perfectly safe, so pick your poison. But one thing is sure - giving it up is not going to hurt you.
I saw a lot of articles that say it is not harmful also. It is confusing because studies are inconclusive.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/artificial-sweeteners/
So if your confused about the Topic @DebSozo then why do continue to give advice? Why not do your own research( from reputable sources not quick Google searches) and educate yourself before trying to advise others?
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