Why does everybody detest low carb diets? They are the only thing that works for me
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Moderately low carb (100 - 125), higher protein works for me. And to stay on point in the question that was asked, I do not detest low carb diets. I have tried it, it was horrible for me and I detested getting through the carb flu, how it may be feel even after that was over, not being able to exercise and perform well, so I guess I wussed out after a couple of months. Found a happy medium.
What works for you and is sustainable to you, your lifestyle, exercise and being sane is all that matters.2 -
it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.1
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speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Sigh.... You say it's a personal preference but then call a basic macronutrient "poison."
This is why people get frustrated with the wild claims about low carb, and the bashing of diets which don't reduce them...
Thanks for making the point for all of us in the thread...29 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Here's a good reason I don't like low carb diets. The dieters can be pretty smug and full of bro-science when talking about low carb.
If low carb works for you, good on you, just don't poop on my way of eating and insisting I'm "poisoning" myself by eating high carbs (250 g).24 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »
You will find other diets that circulate similarly ridiculous claims get the same amount of criticism like Paleo, vegan, gluten free, restricting certain foods...etc
I would put IF in there, too, as I seem to notice a lot more evangelicals in that camp lately than clean eaters. Even people I work with have hopped on the IF train and it's all I hear about some days..
I love when people find a great strategy that works for them, and I get that they want to share it with others. There are times when I am highly active, though, and low carb would not work for me personally for that reason. I would binge like there is no tomorrow.
I don't have anything personally against low carb, though...just that it's not the magic bullet to weight loss that people seem to make it out to be.2 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
So you deliberately ingest a certain amount of "poison" when you are trying to lean out? And presumably more when you aren't?
It's all personal preference but other people are taking in vast amounts of poison?
Can't you see how totally illogical and emotive your statements are?
(Better not respond to the "designed" bit, that would be mixing two religions in one thread.....)11 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Are you trying to equate all carbs with the amount of "sugar" we consume? In your statement above : quoting "Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of ( "sure") we normally consume?
What are you saying?0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »
You will find other diets that circulate similarly ridiculous claims get the same amount of criticism like Paleo, vegan, gluten free, restricting certain foods...etc
I would put IF in there, too, as I seem to notice a lot more evangelicals in that camp lately than clean eaters. Even people I work with have hopped on the IF train and it's all I hear about some days..
I love when people find a great strategy that works for them, and I get that they want to share it with others. There are times when I am highly active, though, and low carb would not work for me personally for that reason. I would binge like there is no tomorrow.
I don't have anything personally against low carb, though...just that it's not the magic bullet to weight loss that people seem to make it out to be.
Yep, I will lump IF with these although on these forums the IF folk seem a bit more moderate than most I know in real life, and realize it's a tool that facilitates moderating calories. Some people who do IF put a halo on it with a bunch of rediculous claims. I personally practice IF sometimes, not because it's some kind of medical miracle, but because it makes dieting easier for me. Nothing more to it. Same goes for any diet any person finds sustainable.1 -
Colorscheme wrote: »I detest any kind of diet that restricts food groups. That said, everyone is different and reacts differently to different diets. What works for you wouldn't necessarily work for me. And what works for me is eating foods I love, like bread and pasta. I just do so within my goals.
Technically, by the numbers, I eat low carb most days, between 110-130g. I don't consider myself low carb because it's unintentional at best. I eat what I want/planned, doesn't matter what it is as long as it fits my calorie goal. Last night I had pizza and pancakes (not together) and actually hit my 40% carb macro, which I usually don't. I do always hit my protein and fat goals (30% each).
While I agree with you, I think low carb is appropriate for type 2 diabetics or IR folk because to them, carbs really are the enemy and their body just doesn't respond the same way as someone without diabetes.
Exactly. Eating low carb is necessary for some people for medical reasons, just like gluten free is necessary for some people for medical reasons.2 -
SeptemberFeyre wrote: »Low carb has helped my Dad lose a lot of weight, and was prescribed by his dr and several other docs I know of for patients needing to lose weight. That being said, I tried it once and found it really hard to stick to because of the limitations. I found it didn't help me any more than CICO, but just the opposite happened with my hubby and oldest daughter, it worked better for them. Different strokes for different folks
see? That's what I mean ...that phrase ...just gets my goat when one appreciates how little the vast majority of primary care physicians know about nutrition and weight loss and how many people use that line as a "call to authority" without realising that it's a logical fallacy
I really like you...2 -
BiggDaddy58 wrote: »IMO..Low Carb/ Keto etc..has simply become the latest craze..the latest fad..
I get sick of reading about it with all the baloney that's tossed out with it.
It's the best way to lose weight. It's THE ONLY thing that works for me. It's scientific. When I achieve the bliss that is in my ketogenic state..blah blah blah..
Baloney. (and I don't mean baloney as in..it doesn't work..simply baloney in all the crap associated with reading about it)
It works for some people..and hey..whatever works for a person is fantastic. But Low Carb works because of CICO. and a person is most likely exercising in some fashion.
In the end..it's simply tiresome to read.
Weight Loss is not rocket science. There are many ways to achieve your goals. So, whatever path you choose..great. The reason many paths fail, is people choose something and then they do not sustain it over time.
That's why "diets" fail. Make it a lifestyle change. A healthy balance of a good diet and exercise.
I am diabetic. I am on NO meds. My Dr. never once mentioned go low carbs (to either lose weight, or help watch my diabetes.) He simply said.. "Put On Your Shoes" Meaning ..Lose weight. Get active. Do something.Do anything.
"Put On Your Shoes" It stuck with me. I have lost 70+ pounds since March 1st this year. All my tests were great on my most recent Dr. Visit.
In the end..Keep things simple is my motto.
Just My Opinon
YMMV
You rock, dude! Keep at it!1 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
There's nothing POISONOUS about it. It depends on what your goals are. Try training for triathlon on 25 g of carbs a day. You'll be in the hospital with kidney failure inside a month. Do you think they are passing out high protein snacks at the Boston Marathon? No, they are passing out snacks loaded with carbs, because carbs = FUEL.10 -
I keep carbs to around 40% of my overall food intake. They still make up the largest portion of my macros as I balance protein and fats at around 30% each.
Some consider that "low carb", but it gets results in that I have goals of fat reduction while maintaining weight.
Further, most of my carb intake is veggies and fruits.
Another reason I mostly cut out certain carb foods was to address issues related to type II diabetes symptoms that had cropped up.
I used diet to turn that beast away, but I have this fear of its return. I do not want to end up that fat guy popping 10+ pills per day to manage sickness I can prevent now.
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Return2Fit wrote: »I keep carbs to around 40% of my overall food intake. They still make up the largest portion of my macros as I balance protein and fats at around 30% each.
That's considered "low carb", but it gets results in that I have goals of fat reduction while maintaining weight.
Further, most of my carb intake is veggies and fruits.
Another reason I mostly cut out certain carb foods was to address issues related to type II diabetes symptoms that had cropped up.
I used diet to turn that beast away, but I have this fear of its return. I do not want to end up that fat guy popping 10+ pills per day to manage sickness I can prevent now.
Nah...40/30/30 has been around forever. I don't think that's low carb, is it?0 -
A low carb diet was a lot more expensive for me. I can't afford to spend that kind of money.1
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You don't need to1
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Really?roanokejoe50 wrote: »Return2Fit wrote: »I keep carbs to around 40% of my overall food intake. They still make up the largest portion of my macros as I balance protein and fats at around 30% each.
That's considered "low carb", but it gets results in that I have goals of fat reduction while maintaining weight.
Further, most of my carb intake is veggies and fruits.
Another reason I mostly cut out certain carb foods was to address issues related to type II diabetes symptoms that had cropped up.
I used diet to turn that beast away, but I have this fear of its return. I do not want to end up that fat guy popping 10+ pills per day to manage sickness I can prevent now.
Nah...40/30/30 has been around forever. I don't think that's low carb, is it?
I was hoping my diet would gain me acceptance into the exclusive world of low carb communities...
Oh well..
This I know, I could not go any lower without stifling my overall energy levels, but whatever, if somebody gets results doing something, cool!
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Return2Fit wrote: »
Really?roanokejoe50 wrote: »Return2Fit wrote: »I keep carbs to around 40% of my overall food intake. They still make up the largest portion of my macros as I balance protein and fats at around 30% each.
That's considered "low carb", but it gets results in that I have goals of fat reduction while maintaining weight.
Further, most of my carb intake is veggies and fruits.
Another reason I mostly cut out certain carb foods was to address issues related to type II diabetes symptoms that had cropped up.
I used diet to turn that beast away, but I have this fear of its return. I do not want to end up that fat guy popping 10+ pills per day to manage sickness I can prevent now.
Nah...40/30/30 has been around forever. I don't think that's low carb, is it?
I was hoping my diet would gain me acceptance into the exclusive world of low carb communities...
Oh well..
This I know, I could not go any lower without stifling my overall energy levels, but whatever, if somebody gets results doing something, cool!
LOL! Just tell the low carb folks you eat under 100g a day...fib a little...they'll never know.
Mark Allen was using this ratio in 1989 when he began his string of 5 Hawaiiian Ironman victories. This ratio was made popular by "The Zone" diet. Been around forever.2 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »The hate is not for the diet itself, but for the ridiculous claims around it. Different people thrive on different diets and that's a fact. For some, that's low carb, and that's great. The hate is for the widespread misinformation around it, like you have to go low carb to lose weight, that it's better than some other diet for everyone, that it somehow defies the laws of physics, cures all ailments, that everyone who isn't eating low carb is always hungry, that the results aren't as good on other diets for everyone...etc.
You will find other diets that circulate similarly ridiculous claims get the same amount of criticism like Paleo, vegan, gluten free, restricting certain foods...etc even though they work brilliantly for some people. It's more in the vein of "it's not necessary" than "you shouldn't do it". If you are doing well on it and liking it, that's completely different than deeming that level of restriction necessary for everyone.
People are generally encouraged to experiment with various approaches and macro balances and find what works for them, which may as well be low carb for some.
I'm seeing a parade of straw men...
Have you been eating shrooms? Or do you just not know what a straw man is?4 -
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You know, I was about to leap on here judging but your last sentence "it's the only thing that works for me" got me in the feels. I hate this expression but "at the end of the day" that's all that matters my friend. You take good care of you and ignore we haters
. Do what makes you happy and what feels good to you. Right?
I had to give up dairy and meat. Heart disease is very real to me. I am at the age where my Cardiologist told me that I would have to have open heart surgery to repair a heart valve. I was a competitive runner until my mid-30's. You can't out exercise heart disease unfortunately. I read Dr. Esselstyn's book on how to over come heart disease and also Dr. John McDougall's stuff on how eating a high carb (plant carb) diet can heal the body and I was sold.
I wish you all the best, everyone's journey is personal and different. Who are we to judge? 6 -
WHAT!roanokejoe50 wrote: »This ratio was made popular by "The Zone" diet. Been around forever.
I thought I invented it...
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WinoGelato wrote: »What matters for weight loss is that you are in a calorie deficit. If low carb is a way of eating that enables you to achieve the calorie deficit, then great. People may be pushing back if you are approaching it as a temporary "diet" as many who look at any particular approach as a short term means to an end often end up failing.
I would listen to ANYONE named WinoGelato!!!4 -
speedfreak75 wrote: »it's all a personal preference. I love low carb diets. Our bodies aren't designed to take in the amount of sure we normally consume. it's simply poison. when i'm trying to lean out i usually cut my carbs down in the 25-30 net carbs per day.
Dude, are you saying you're eating 25-30 grams of poison per day?!?!?!12 -
If it works for you, go for it and ignore the naysayers. Too many people here think they're experts and try to have their noses stuck firmly in other peoples' bidness where they don't belong.
I chose my general practitioner years ago because his focus is on wellness and weight loss. Back then, he had cardio patients like myself on low fat diets. Most were not succeeding. So he did some research and decided to try low carb with his patients. They lost weight, and their cholesterol, triglycerides, and blood pressure all improved. He recommended it to me and I was skeptical, but I tried it. It worked.
But I found I needed to add calorie counting for the accountability. I've since increased my carb intake; my weight loss has slowed to a crawl, but I'm only 15 lbs from my final goal weight. Today I do what I'd call reduced carb plus calorie counting and walking for exercise. I'm hoping to get back into weight training again soon but finding time has been a problem.5 -
I am only low carbohydrate, when it pertains to consuming my minimum recommended amount of 130 grams; nothing less than that. I also do medium fat & high protein.0
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You know, I was about to leap on here judging but your last sentence "it's the only thing that works for me" got me in the feels. I hate this expression but "at the end of the day" that's all that matters my friend. You take good care of you and ignore we haters. Do what makes you happy and what feels good to you. Right?
I had to give up dairy and meat. Heart disease is very real to me. I am at the age where my Cardiologist told me that I would have to have open heart surgery to repair a heart valve. I was a competitive runner until my mid-30's. You can't out exercise heart disease unfortunately. I read Dr. Esselstyn's book on how to over come heart disease and also Dr. John McDougall's stuff on how eating a high carb (plant carb) diet can heal the body and I was sold.
I wish you all the best, everyone's journey is personal and different. Who are we to judge?
I have a heart valve defect and was never told to avoid meat and dairy. did they tell you why? as for having OHS for the valve repair. for some its not needed. I was told the only way I would need the valve fixed or replaced was if I went into cardiac arrest,they said most people have no issues caused from it. it can mimic asthma symptoms I did learn though.some diets cannot cure or heal certain health issues.4 -
roanokejoe50 wrote: »Return2Fit wrote: »I keep carbs to around 40% of my overall food intake. They still make up the largest portion of my macros as I balance protein and fats at around 30% each.
That's considered "low carb", but it gets results in that I have goals of fat reduction while maintaining weight.
Further, most of my carb intake is veggies and fruits.
Another reason I mostly cut out certain carb foods was to address issues related to type II diabetes symptoms that had cropped up.
I used diet to turn that beast away, but I have this fear of its return. I do not want to end up that fat guy popping 10+ pills per day to manage sickness I can prevent now.
Nah...40/30/30 has been around forever. I don't think that's low carb, is it?
I don't consider it such, and it's how I eat more often than not (trying to increase carbs a bit lately and also to eat less meat).1 -
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I think anti-carb sentiments are caused by a number of things. One may be that people feel judged. They may feel that we have judged their diet to not work. To not be good enough for us and that may bother some people. I think this may be more true for those people who rely on less healthy carbs, and a fair bit of them, for their food energy. I don't know.
Possibly some of the problem comes from people who still think the old nutrition advice is still valid, and based on more science and experience than it actually was. I grew up in the era of the food pyramid with 5-7 servings of "healthy whole grains" every day, when table sugar was thought to be a fine substitute for fats for diabetics, and when eating cholesterol was thought to be bad for everyone. Those of us brought up with a "healthy balanced diet
, based largely on a non-essential macro, may have a hard time seeing where that could be an unhealthy diet for some people (not all). I know I did. I remember the days of eating rice, broccoli and lean chicken for dinner, with Special K and skim milk for breakfast, a mini bagel with veggies, one slice of cheese, and an apple for lunch. I laughed at Atkins in the early 90s too.
And I think some others around here have just seen too many fad diets go by. Maybe they have little patience left. Some think that knowing that CI must be less than CO (CI<CO) is all you need for successful weight loss. For them, and many others, it may be all that was needed. They don't understand that some people need to change their foods too. Walk a mile in their shoes and all that.
I don't think most are against low carb. I think the most vocal just don't want people to think they HAVE to do it in order to lose weight... Even if some people would benefit from trying it.7
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