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Is dairy good or bad?

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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    It's for baby cows.

    And almonds are for the ground. What's your point?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    It's for baby cows.

    Sure, baby cows are one of the animals who can usefully enjoy cow's milk.

    And so are humans! At least, non lactose intolerant humans.
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  • LexZeAgent2016
    LexZeAgent2016 Posts: 8 Member
    dairy is not bad in correct proportions
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    It's for baby cows.
    Apparently not...
  • HazyEyes93
    HazyEyes93 Posts: 89 Member
    I would say neither. Excess is bad. Moderation is good. 100% of the time.
  • Treece68
    Treece68 Posts: 780 Member
    How do you not get dairy in nature? Female mammals produce this subsistence for their offspring. Do you mean nature does not pasteurize milk ... then that is true people have to heat it to 151 F, butter must be churned, and cheese must be made.
  • I drink a cup of 1% every few days, and I am still dropping weight. :)
  • KetoneKaren
    KetoneKaren Posts: 6,412 Member
    It's for baby cows.

    And human breastmilk is for baby humans.

    Now that that's settled, what is for adult humans? We are at the top of the food chain.
  • Nikion901
    Nikion901 Posts: 2,467 Member
    I love my milk ... as a drink all by itself, as a cultured food like yogurt or kefir, like a curdled product like cheese, as part of a recipe like custard ... yummy!
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Nikion901 wrote: »
    I love my milk ... as a drink all by itself, as a cultured food like yogurt or kefir, like a curdled product like cheese, as part of a recipe like custard ... yummy!

    Same here. If i had to pick a food group that i absolutely could not give up, it would be dairy.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    It's for baby cows.

    And human breastmilk is for baby humans.

    Now that that's settled, what is for adult humans? We are at the top of the food chain.

    Everything, up to, and including each other. Except for the brain. Don't eat that part. Don't nobody want Kuru.
  • N1keS0cc8rRunne7
    N1keS0cc8rRunne7 Posts: 43 Member
    edited September 2016
    Nikion901 wrote: »
    I love my milk ... as a drink all by itself, as a cultured food like yogurt or kefir, like a curdled product like cheese, as part of a recipe like custard ... yummy!

    Same here. If i had to pick a food group that i absolutely could not give up, it would be dairy.

    Dairy is amazing (especially cheese, french bread and merlot :p )...but consuming it in small amounts and not as often really helped keep my skin acne-free consistently (better than topicals and antibiotics actually) and obviously benefited weight loss too. I really thinking diet and skin issues are connected (especially for those genetically prone)....over-doing the bad stuff like pizza and milk chocolate always broke me out (somewhere)...the key is less (when specific food/drinks are involved)
  • tomteboda
    tomteboda Posts: 2,171 Member
    It's for baby cows.

    And human breastmilk is for baby humans.

    Now that that's settled, what is for adult humans? We are at the top of the food chain.

    Everything, up to, and including each other. Except for the brain. Don't eat that part. Don't nobody want Kuru.

    Bad news for you. The prion protein is also found in the lymphatic system.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    tomteboda wrote: »
    It's for baby cows.

    And human breastmilk is for baby humans.

    Now that that's settled, what is for adult humans? We are at the top of the food chain.

    Everything, up to, and including each other. Except for the brain. Don't eat that part. Don't nobody want Kuru.

    Bad news for you. The prion protein is also found in the lymphatic system.

    But lymph nodes are so chewy :frowning:
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    It's for baby cows.

    Or not: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27579006
  • cee134
    cee134 Posts: 33,711 Member
    edited September 2016
    Dairy is mostly over capitalized which affects the end product as well as the animals used to make the product. That is bad.

    Dairy provides nutrients and calories. That is good.

    I think this subject is too subjective to be able to argue either way because there are good and bad qualities to dairy.

    I think dairy is neither good nor bad, maybe Chaotic neutral.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    edited September 2016
    cee134 wrote: »
    Dairy is mostly over capitalized which affects the end product as well as the animals used to make the product. That is bad.

    Dairy provides nutrients and calories. That is good.

    I think this subject is too subjective to be able to argue either way because there are good and bad qualities to dairy.

    I think dairy is neither good nor bad, maybe Chaotic neutral.

    Chaotic neutral, eh? :wink:

    Everything is overcapitalized. Doesn't take away from the fact that dairy products taste great!
  • snerggly
    snerggly Posts: 112 Member
    Hello there, I recommend doing research on your question. There is plenty of Science to support why dairy is bad for humans (animal products.) Simply, I ballooned up to 160 pounds this past year (I am 5'6) due to menopause but from eating dairy three times a day during the week. I changed my diet and I am finally losing.

    Anyhow - http://nutritionfacts.org/video/estrogen-in-meat-dairy-and-eggs/ That Doctor has done years of research and looks at the actual science behind his health facts. Also research:

    http://www.forksoverknives.com/7-ways-milk-and-dairy-products-are-making-you-sick/

    T. Collin Campbell: http://nutritionstudies.org/

    Also an old school dude from the 1940's Dr. Kempner who had proven results taking people off of meat and dairy to cure their heart disease and type 2 diabetes: https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/

    I went down a rabbit hole for the past 3 months reading and researching about heart disease and how to avoid open heart surgery. I found my answers between my research and my MD who is a plant based doctor, I found my answers.

    Best wishes! ;)
  • izzyrhunt
    izzyrhunt Posts: 25 Member
    It's better for children and teenagers because of the calcium but adult can still get benefits from dairy because of the protein
  • lcrampton44
    lcrampton44 Posts: 3 Member
    One particular type of cancer that affects men—and only men—is prostate cancer. In 2011, more than 200,000 men were diagnosed with prostate cancer. A recent study linked both meat and dairy product consumption with an increased risk of death after prostate cancer. This is consistent with previous research connecting animal products with a higher risk of developing prostate cancer, as well as increased mortality.


    http://www.pcrm.org/nbBlog/index.php/got-a-prostate-ditch-the-dairy
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