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Is dairy good or bad?

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  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Alluminati wrote: »
    Sodium Bicarbonate. Dun dun dun.....

    One of my favorite pancake recipes has both sodium bicarbonate AND buttermilk in it.

    Instant. Death.

    Admit it, you died years ago. No other possibility.

    Oh my, was it a dwarf necromancer that brought her back?
    Sometimes I wonder how many people might was well be zombies. Their diets, both physical and mental, leaving them the equivalent of walking dead.

    It's true.
  • saraha991
    saraha991 Posts: 4 Member
    Milk is good for baby cows. First word... baby.. milk is for babys are you are not a baby.... second word cow... you are not a cow.
    But moving away from simple logic. Just check out nutritionfacts.org for all the health problems related to consuming dairy
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    saraha991 wrote: »
    Milk is good for baby cows. First word... baby.. milk is for babys are you are not a baby.... second word cow... you are not a cow.
    But moving away from simple logic. Just check out nutritionfacts.org for all the health problems related to consuming dairy

    Seeds are meant for birds. Are you a bird?
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Bananas do not naturally grow in Illinois. Therefore, how could they be meant for people who live in Illinois? It's unnatural!
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  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Bananas do not naturally grow in Illinois. Therefore, how could they be meant for people who live in Illinois? It's unnatural!

    Or maybe living in Illinois is unnatural.

    Yup. Lincoln was born in Kentucky. He was an invasive species even in his own "Land of Lincoln."
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  • edwardetr
    edwardetr Posts: 140 Member
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?
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  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    And then they do these kind of mutations to them too for meat:
    mYHqxzt.jpg

    That cow is more jacked than 98% of MFP users. I want his stack.
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  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    And then they do these kind of mutations to them too for meat:
    mYHqxzt.jpg

    That cow is more jacked than 98% of MFP users. I want his stack.

    That's a Belgian Blue and their extreme muscling is due to a completely natural mutation which allows them to develop more muscle than typical cows and also inhibits fat deposits which is why they look so lean.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    And then they do these kind of mutations to them too for meat:
    mYHqxzt.jpg

    That cow is more jacked than 98% of MFP users. I want his stack.

    That's a Belgian Blue and their extreme muscling is due to a completely natural mutation which allows them to develop more muscle than typical cows and also inhibits fat deposits which is why they look so lean.

    Bah! I refuse to accept that a natty can be so jacked! He's gotta be on the juice! Am I Redditing right?
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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    And then they do these kind of mutations to them too for meat:
    mYHqxzt.jpg

    That cow is more jacked than 98% of MFP users. I want his stack.

    It comes from a lack of Myostatin.
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  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    This. Is. Not. True.

    https://inuddernews.com/2016/01/30/milk-myths-debunked-part-3-dairy-is-scary-or-not/
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    And then they do these kind of mutations to them too for meat:
    mYHqxzt.jpg

    That cow is more jacked than 98% of MFP users. I want his stack.

    It comes from a lack of Myostatin.

    Lack? That doesn't even make sense. You're claiming there is a chemical in the body that naturally keeps you from getting more muscles. Monsanto should come up with better stories when they're making these things.

    That's what he's saying. And he's right.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myostatin
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  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    edwardetr wrote: »
    rankinsect wrote: »
    salembambi wrote: »
    bad for you

    & especially for the calf and mother cows

    That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.

    In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.

    Have you ever heard a cow cry for days after her calf was taken away? They are kept in a constant state of lactation and are genetically modified to the point where their utters are so large that they could not even walk. How do you come to the conclusion that they are generally treated well?

    And then they do these kind of mutations to them too for meat:
    mYHqxzt.jpg

    That cow is more jacked than 98% of MFP users. I want his stack.

    It comes from a lack of Myostatin.

    Lack? That doesn't even make sense. You're claiming there is a chemical in the body that naturally keeps you from getting more muscles. Monsanto should come up with better stories when they're making these things.

    That's what he's saying. And he's right.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myostatin

    Hmmm. Now to get my hands on some Follistatin.
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited August 2016
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Bananas do not naturally grow in Illinois. Therefore, how could they be meant for people who live in Illinois? It's unnatural!

    Or maybe living in Illinois is unnatural.

    There were native Americans here long ago. Surely you aren't calling them unnatural. Maybe the mammoths (or whatever) should have built a HUGE wall over the Bering land bridge. Those on side with humans could have paid for that wall.
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