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Is dairy good or bad?
ztuins
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Plenty is good. Too much is too much. If one is intolerant of lactose, it's difficult but survivable.2
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Good to taste or good for your body? Cause swiss cheese is NOT good at all......ever!5
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If you like dairy it's good, if you don't like it it's bad.
Eat what you like ☺5 -
Do you like it? Does it fit with your goals?
If so - go for it. Nothing wrong with dairy per se, it's often a great source of protein and calcium.
Food isn't good or bad, by the way. Diets can be good (i.e. nutritionally complete and meeting your goals) or bad (setting you up for malnutrition or missing your dietary goals), but one needs to look at the diet as a whole, not any individual component.
Some foods have more nutritional value than others, of course, but even those low on nutrition are not necessarily "bad" as long as your diet doesn't overconsume them to the point you suffer. And even when comparing food choices, one must do so in the context of the overall diet and health of the individual. For someone whose primary problem is a deficiency in B12, for example, a double bacon cheeseburger is healthier than a salad.17 -
I like dairy. It fits in my goals. For me, dairy is good.2
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Unless you're allergic, lactose intolerant, or vegan, it's good11
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bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows14 -
salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
Those cows would be in a lot of pain if they were unmilked. Dairy cows are upset with you if you fail to milk them on schedule.27 -
salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
That depends where you get your milk from. I buy local (the farm is 30 minutes from me), organic, grass fed milk.
In general dairy cattle are treated quite well - probably among the most pampered of farm animals. Better treated cows produce more milk per cow, and the milk is of better quality.22 -
Divine. Yogurt, Greek yogurt, Kefir, cottage cheese, all the cheeses. Casein and Whey. Good quantity of protein, so an easy way to round out your meal.1
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salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
How is it bad for you?2 -
Good. Very very good actually. It's necessary if you want great tasting cheese, ice cream, greek yogurt or milkshake. You can safely ignore the fear mongering around it. If you like it, not allergic to it, and it can comfortably fit into your calorie budget I see no reason to avoid it.4
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salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
It's good for those people who don't have an allergy and have the gene that allows them to digest it, and so is beef. The question of whether it's good for the cows is another issue. For the dairy cows raised near me I'd say it's good for them since all are pasture raised, protected from predators, and well fed. The beef cattle? It's arguable as to whether it's good for the species (it is removed from the pressure of natural selection).1 -
It's an excellent and delicious form of nutrition - which shouldn't come as a surprise as we are mammals.
As a side note hanging labels such as good or bad on individual foods or even food groups makes no real sense without context to your entire diet and particular needs.
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I eat enough cheese to keep Wisconsin running. It varies a bit by the type of cheese, but in general, it's a very balanced source of proteins and fats. It gets a thumbs up from me.10
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Milk products are good in many ways. They are full of nutrients, minerals which are particularly good for one. Iodine is something which hardly ever gets a mention. True one only needs a little 150 microns on a daily basis, dairy is a good way to achieve this and other minerals which promote good thyroid health. Iodine is found in many foods but more often in smaller amounts, 100 gram of dark green veg only provides 4 microns for example when 100 ml of either cow or goat milk provides 30. Cow milk is type 1 casein the protein which can be problematic for many but goat is type two like A2 milk. It is also considered that goat milk lactose is probably easier to digest for some because the body has less stress utilising the milk in comparison to that of cows.4
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Milk products are good in many ways. They are full of nutrients, minerals which are particularly good for one. Iodine is something which hardly ever gets a mention. True one only needs a little 150 microns on a daily basis, dairy is a good way to achieve this and other minerals which promote good thyroid health. Iodine is found in many foods but more often in smaller amounts, 100 gram of dark green veg only provides 4 microns for example when 100 ml of either cow or goat milk provides 30. Cow milk is type 1 casein the protein which can be problematic for many but goat is type two like A2 milk. It is also considered that goat milk lactose is probably easier to digest for some because the body has less stress utilising the milk in comparison to that of cows.
I love the goat juice and everything that comes from it. I just wish more of the population would get on board, so farming can be ramped up without financial risk, so the prices can come down a bit.2 -
Milk products are good in many ways. They are full of nutrients, minerals which are particularly good for one. Iodine is something which hardly ever gets a mention. True one only needs a little 150 microns on a daily basis, dairy is a good way to achieve this and other minerals which promote good thyroid health. Iodine is found in many foods but more often in smaller amounts, 100 gram of dark green veg only provides 4 microns for example when 100 ml of either cow or goat milk provides 30. Cow milk is type 1 casein the protein which can be problematic for many but goat is type two like A2 milk. It is also considered that goat milk lactose is probably easier to digest for some because the body has less stress utilising the milk in comparison to that of cows.
I recently switched to A2 cows milk, as i drink a lot of milk/dairy and my skin flares up because of it. It's only been a week and my face is clearing up already.1 -
I don't drink milk...I think it tastes nasty but I use half and half in my tea and eat green yogurt and cheese. I think of your body tolerates it, great. If it doesn't, don't eat it.1
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Dairy is delicious2
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ValerieMartini2Olives wrote: »Dairy is delicious
Yes it is. I'd be happy if my only source of fluid was milk.
A tall glass of cool milk with pepperoni pizza is heaven.
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Milk products are good in many ways. They are full of nutrients, minerals which are particularly good for one. Iodine is something which hardly ever gets a mention. True one only needs a little 150 microns on a daily basis, dairy is a good way to achieve this and other minerals which promote good thyroid health. Iodine is found in many foods but more often in smaller amounts, 100 gram of dark green veg only provides 4 microns for example when 100 ml of either cow or goat milk provides 30. Cow milk is type 1 casein the protein which can be problematic for many but goat is type two like A2 milk. It is also considered that goat milk lactose is probably easier to digest for some because the body has less stress utilising the milk in comparison to that of cows.
I love the goat juice and everything that comes from it. I just wish more of the population would get on board, so farming can be ramped up without financial risk, so the prices can come down a bit.
I love Feta cheese, but the last time I tried goat milk, it tasted exactly the way goats smell. I couldn't finish the container.6 -
In general, dairy is healthy and contains lots of protein but avoid it if any allergies or other medical reasonings. I can't eat dairy anymore due to my allergy. Even lactaid didn't work. And if you have Crohn's or a similar IBD, I suggest a low-no fat dairy. I have Crohn's and can't metabolize fats well which apparently is a common thing for it. I have to be on a lowfat diet.1
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Dairy is highly processed and youd never get it in nature. It really has no place in the human diet. The calcium in it praised for bone growth and strength . Its too much calcium and it actually hurts bone health and contributes to osteoporosis. Plants have all the calcium and fat you need.4
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ninhogorgfan wrote: »Dairy is highly processed and youd never get it in nature. It really has no place in the human diet. The calcium in it praised for bone growth and strength . Its too much calcium and it actually hurts bone health and contributes to osteoporosis. Plants have all the calcium and fat you need.
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ninhogorgfan wrote: »Dairy is highly processed and youd never get it in nature. It really has no place in the human diet. The calcium in it praised for bone growth and strength . Its too much calcium and it actually hurts bone health and contributes to osteoporosis. Plants have all the calcium and fat you need.
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