Weight loss is 90% food, 10% exercise?
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People like to apply percentages and numbers to things even when it makes absolutely no sense to apply percentages and numbers to things.6
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »People like to apply percentages and numbers to things even when it makes absolutely no sense to apply percentages and numbers to things.
Well 80% like applying numbers and 20% just make them up anyway.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »People like to apply percentages and numbers to things even when it makes absolutely no sense to apply percentages and numbers to things.
Well 80% like applying numbers and 20% just make them up anyway.
Well 70% of people agree with me while the remaining 30% are terrorists.3 -
It depends on the person, actually. I am one of those folks who requires very few calories to maintain - if I want to lose weight, I definitely need to increase the CO part of the CICO equation in order to maintain health.0
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Also, the saying "you can't out train a *kitten* diet" exists for a reason.
People aren't very good at thinking critically, but can regurgitate slogans they've seen on bumper stickers?3 -
Juice plus all the way, lose weight and keep it off
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Calorie deficit: IT'S FREE!I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
No, you don't need to exclusively 'eat clean' to lose weight. One can easily lose weight with a calorie deficit. A diet can consist of nutritious and not so nutritious choices such as ice cream and chocolate. Easy.
What does 'eat clean' even mean? Is it washing vegetables and fruit, because I can get on board with that.5 -
I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.0 -
When I had an active job and active lifestyle, I was naturally in maintenance. Since my active job days are likely behind me, I'll always have to exercise in order to get enough calories to make me happy.2
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If your sole aim is weight loss then technically you don't need to exercise at all. Whilst exercise will definitely help with weight loss, (be careful how much extra you eat - mfp tends to way overestimate calories burned during exercise!), I'd suggest doing it for all the other benefits it brings which I'm sure I don't need to list out.
If you like your phrases here's another one for you: "skinny people look good in clothes. fit people look good naked!"
I agree with the first part of your comment. Well said! Not so much with the second part.
You don't necessarily look “good naked” (whatever that means) when you lose weight, even if you are fit. And if you don't believe me ask the folks that lost a lot of weight and now have to deal with extra skin (a member posted her thoughts and pictures about it just few days ago).
Age, amount of weight lost, and genetics has a lot to do on how you look naked, so can we stop equating fitness with naked beauty, please? Because it really sends the wrong message folks.
Rant over.
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If only my calorie deficit was as large as my bank account deficit it'd be plain sailing.
CICO all the way from here.
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I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?0 -
I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?
But if you eat McDonalds and takeaway and stay within your calorie goal, you will lose weight.
CICO is Calories In = Calories Out3 -
I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?
And 7000 calories of "clean food"?2 -
I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?
If you can eat 7000 calories of McDonald's then you need a help in many ways!
CICO mean Calories In/Calories Out and is the basic idea of an energy balance between what you consume and what you do throughout the day.2 -
I look at this way: I can run a 5K in 30 minutes and burn perhaps 300 calories. I can then buy a large KitKat at the corner store and cancel out that entire run in about 30 seconds. So, the "effect size" of food is much more pronounced than exercise. And my understanding (CMIIW) is that as you get trimmer and more fit, the effect size of food will increase even more, while it decreases for activity.5
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I look at this way: I can run a 5K in 30 minutes and burn perhaps 300 calories. I can then buy a large KitKat at the corner store and cancel out that entire run in about 30 seconds. So, the "effect size" of food is much more pronounced than exercise. And my understanding (CMIIW) is that as you get trimmer and more fit, the effect size of food will increase even more, while it decreases for activity.
It decreases slightly but not that much. The difference for 50lbs running for 5K is about 50 calories and the difference in BMR is also only about 250 - 300 calories per day depending on sex. However, one interesting thing is that when you have a low BF% you have a higher propensity to add muscle than fat and this is reversed at a high BF%. As well, those with a lower BF% burn more calories per pound of body weight due to having a higher fat free mass index. So nothing is really that simple.
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Yea, I actually eat more at a smaller size than I did before. I feel like I'm in burn mode all the time. I don't go testing it too often, but I have a metabolism now. But when you are trying to change your body composition, decrease body fat, increase muscle, not just shrink to a smaller size, it's more than just calories in, calories out mentality.2
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If I see an increase in muscle mass, reduced body fat and a subsequent higher metabolic rate then I certainly won't complain if this leaves more scope for the odd indulgence here and there.3
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So this.rainbowbow wrote: »I would say....
weight loss is 100% diet
fitness and strength is 100% exercise
both are equally as important to the overall package that is you.
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »People like to apply percentages and numbers to things even when it makes absolutely no sense to apply percentages and numbers to things.
Well 80% like applying numbers and 20% just make them up anyway.
Well 70% of people agree with me while the remaining 30% are terrorists.
@Wheelhouse15 and @Aaron_K123 are my new favorite posters.3 -
If one ate 7000 calories of clean food, they'd likely not lose weight either. Jay Cutler (a multi time Mr. Olympia winner) ate "clean" daily to put on mass. Like 5000 calories a day.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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rainbowbow wrote: »I would say....
weight loss is 100% diet
fitness and strength is 100% exercise
both are equally as important to the overall package that is you.
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Just my humble opinion, but anyone who decides to do 0% exercise and lose their weight based on simple calorie reduction (food) is destined to gain the weight back later. For me it's 50/50. If I exercise as much as I can handle long term, then I can eat more of what I like and still keep my calories under control. This is something I can maintain going forward permanently so I don't expect to gain the weight back. So I exercise, burn calories so that I can eat more AND I adjusted to a healthier diet but don't deny myself the good things all the time.
No, you don't have to exercise to lose weight, but do you really want to gain it back again after the diet is over? Sure, you can learn new habits, but without exercise it means eating differently the rest of your life and counting calories. For me, that's no good.3 -
Honestly, weight loss is all diet. With that said, I find it easier to maintain weight loss when you have a decent amount of lean muscle. For instance, two years ago I lost 20 lbs with zero exercise. I kept it off for a few months by maintaining an impeccable diet until on halloween I decided to indulge in 3 fun size chocolate bars.... The next day I literally gained 6 lbs. It was so hard to lose it and ultimately I gained all the weight back. In the last 6 months, I have started cardio and strength training. I have lost 13 lbs so far (10 to go) and occasionally I indulge in sweets and "less healthy" foods. I have been able to easily maintain my weight loss even with the occasional treats due to my increased metabolism (due to lean muscle mass). Exercise helps if you want to have a sustainable lifestyle and weight loss... As someone who has lost and gained 20 lbs constantly over the last decade, I HIGHLY recommend to add at least some strength training into your routine.... It will make life a lot easier and it is good for you
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I don't think you would be able to eat that much clean in a day as the portions would be way too big.0
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If one ate 7000 calories of clean food, they'd likely not lose weight either. Jay Cutler (a multi time Mr. Olympia winner) ate "clean" daily to put on mass. Like 5000 calories a day.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.I believe it should be 100% deficit. Whether you achieve that through diet or exercise doesnt matter as long as you are burning more than you consume.
I disagreed with you man I believe the you need to eat clean as you can run off a bad diet.
If you create a deficit you will lose weight. How you create it doesnt matter, its still CICO. Im having tacos tonight but I did Insanity today and a long walk so I'll still be in a deficit and on track for my goals.
I couldn't agree more that you need to burn more than you consume, but if however your consuming 7000 calories a day because your having a McDonalds for breakfast and a takeaway for dinner you wouldn't be able to burn that off on a daily basis, which is why I am saying eating clean it the way forwards.
Also what does CICO mean.?
Calories In Calories Out.
You can eat whatever you want as long as you maintain your deficit. You dont need to eat "clean". Lots of people lose weight eating junk food. Its not what I would recommend as a daily lifestyle mainly for other health reasons but you can still lose weight that way as long as you burn more than you eat.1 -
7000 calories consumed clean!? Geez, you'd be chewing the cud longer than an Aberdeen Angus cow to get through that much. Plus the subsequent methane will get you banned from the gym in no time, so it'll be solo training in the great outdoors for anyone attempting that challenge2
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Think to yourself, would work out in the gym for ages every day and eat junk food. The answer is no. It's pretty common sense0
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