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Fast food and obesity
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »No.. But you should watch a documentary called Forks Over Knives. It goes into great detail about obesity and fast food... It's all the chemicals they put into the food that makes me disgusted. At McDonalds in other countries such as in France they use chemicals but fewer than American McDonalds.. It's the chemicals in the food that make people addicted.. Personally I got sick the last time I ate at McDonalds.. Which is something that happens when you eat healthy and detox for a few months..
I'd say eat the homemade salad over the McChicken any day of the week. At least you know what's in your food.
At the end of the day it's all about choices.. If anyone is going to eat food at McDonalds, then order a small fry and burger but maybe drink water instead of soda..
I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
Watch again. Use your critical eye! It's a documentary with an agenda.6 -
fitforeternity493 wrote: »No.. But you should watch a documentary called Forks Over Knives. It goes into great detail about obesity and fast food... It's all the chemicals they put into the food that makes me disgusted. At McDonalds in other countries such as in France they use chemicals but fewer than American McDonalds.. It's the chemicals in the food that make people addicted.. Personally I got sick the last time I ate at McDonalds.. Which is something that happens when you eat healthy and detox for a few months..
I'd say eat the homemade salad over the McChicken any day of the week. At least you know what's in your food.
At the end of the day it's all about choices.. If anyone is going to eat food at McDonalds, then order a small fry and burger but maybe drink water instead of soda..
I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
I def wouldn't eat McDonald's for lunch in the middle of the day if that's what your saying... well..... not a Hamburger or sandwich anyway
maybe nuggets mmm0 -
I don't have a problem with fast food, in fact I need those chains around so I can grab something quick when I need to. Eating more calories than the calories that are spent is the problem, but of course a lot of things feeds into that like stress. Also, I've noticed that some people don't have an actually "break" or "lunch time" in their day, so they eat throughout the day. Social gatherings can cause people to eat more too. Some people eat the most at dinnertime: pigging out after a long day of work----I have done it before
My family and I only eat fast food when we have to. My parents are overweight but they are overweight due to eating too much homemade food. And on top of that, my mother works night shift so her body is pretty jacked up.
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »No.. But you should watch a documentary called Forks Over Knives. It goes into great detail about obesity and fast food... It's all the chemicals they put into the food that makes me disgusted. At McDonalds in other countries such as in France they use chemicals but fewer than American McDonalds.. It's the cheicals in the food that make people addicted.. Personally I got sick the last time I ate at McDonalds.. Which is something that happens when you eat healthy and detox for a few months..
I'd say eat the homemade salad over the McChicken any day of the week. At least you know what's in your food.
At the mend of the day it's all about choices.. If anyone is going to eat food at McDonalds, then order a small fry and burger but maybe drink water instead of soda..
I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
Forks over knives?!?! Yup a totally legit source.. smh
And detox? Yup more pseudoscience6 -
Honestly I think the number one cause of obesity is our civilization no longer requiring a lot of physical activity coupled with an abundance of food. Fast food is not a cause so much as a symptom of that. Fast food exists because it is what our civilization calls for, fast and convinient food so that we can get back to work where work for most people is sitting on your butt.14
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »No.. But you should watch a documentary called Forks Over Knives. It goes into great detail about obesity and fast food... It's all the chemicals they put into the food that makes me disgusted. At McDonalds in other countries such as in France they use chemicals but fewer than American McDonalds.. It's the chemicals in the food that make people addicted.. Personally I got sick the last time I ate at McDonalds.. Which is something that happens when you eat healthy and detox for a few months..
I'd say eat the homemade salad over the McChicken any day of the week. At least you know what's in your food.
At the end of the day it's all about choices.. If anyone is going to eat food at McDonalds, then order a small fry and burger but maybe drink water instead of soda..
I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
1.) Forks Over Knives isn't a "documentary". It's vegan propaganda, done by a crackpot pseudoscientist whose primary work (The China Study) has been debunked over and over again.
2.) There are "chemicals" in every food. We are made of "chemicals". And there is no such thing as "food addiction". Somebody who eats at McDonald's every day will not suffer withdrawal symptoms if they stop eating it.
3.) I can go months without eating fast food and never get sick if I eat it again. "Detoxing" is another large sack of woo that has no basis in science, unless you're detoxing from a drug/alcohol addiction or the ingestion of certain hazardous products (heavy metals, etc.). If you're ingesting things that create a need for a true clinical detox, you're doing it wrong.
For anybody actually interested in the science rather than woo, propaganda and fearmongering, here's an interesting study worth reading: Bodyrecomposition.com | Hormonal Response to a Fast Food Meal13 -
I'm betting if they served an Egg Mcmuffin at breakfast (300 calories), a double cheeseburger for lunch (450 calories), and a quarter pounder for dinner (540 calories) in state prisons, they probably wouldn't weigh more than they do now.
When food portion is controlled, weight stays steady regardless of source.
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »No.. But you should watch a documentary called Forks Over Knives. It goes into great detail about obesity and fast food... It's all the chemicals they put into the food that makes me disgusted. At McDonalds in other countries such as in France they use chemicals but fewer than American McDonalds.. It's the chemicals in the food that make people addicted.. Personally I got sick the last time I ate at McDonalds.. Which is something that happens when you eat healthy and detox for a few months..
I'd say eat the homemade salad over the McChicken any day of the week. At least you know what's in your food.
At the end of the day it's all about choices.. If anyone is going to eat food at McDonalds, then order a small fry and burger but maybe drink water instead of soda..
I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
Forks over Knives is a bunch of propaganda doodoo.4 -
I'm betting if they served an Egg Mcmuffin at breakfast (300 calories), a double cheeseburger for lunch (450 calories), and a quarter pounder for dinner (540 calories) in state prisons, they probably wouldn't weigh more than they do now.
When food portion is controlled, weight stays steady regardless of source.
Prisons are an interesting point of discussion for this topic. The food served in prisons is "institutional food" (i.e. low-priced products bought in large quantities and prepared in bulk). Lots of highly processed foods, hardly what one would call "clean eating" by whatever standard. They're usually also allowed to purchase candy bars, potato chips, etc. from the prison commissary. Yet inmates rarely come out of prison in worse health and/or physical shape than they were when they went in. I've seen many cons who went into the joint in terrible physical condition (either obese, or skinnyfat from being strung out on drugs) and when you ran into them on the streets a year or two later after they'd come out of prison, they were yoked and lean as hell.
Of course there are some concomitant causative factors - they have plenty of time to exercise and are (mostly) not doing drugs and drinking alcohol while they're in prison - but the fact remains that many of them get into amazing shape/health despite a far less than optimal diet.1 -
fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not1 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
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Ohh this could go on and on. Basically both camps have some degree of truth in them. If it was just down to CICO then the argument holds its the consumer that's to blame, but its so much more than that. Look at the money spent by big fast food companies on advertising, lobbying and promotions, there really isn't the same level fruit, vegetables and non fast food type food. So we need education, but even that is influenced by McD's Coca Cola - take your pick; get 'em early right enough eh? So are big companies totally to blame for the rise in obesity? Not entirely but they shoulder a lot of the blame by their promotion tactics and political lobbying.3
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Ohh this could go on and on. Basically both camps have some degree of truth in them. If it was just down to CICO then the argument holds its the consumer that's to blame, but its so much more than that. Look at the money spent by big fast food companies on advertising, lobbying and promotions, there really isn't the same level fruit, vegetables and non fast food type food. So we need education, but even that is influenced by McD's Coca Cola - take your pick; get 'em early right enough eh? So are big companies totally to blame for the rise in obesity? Not entirely but they shoulder a lot of the blame by their promotion tactics and political lobbying.fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
I'm not arguing and I see what you are saying, but it is a bit basic. Some people are weak willed and advertising must work or they wouldn't spend millions doing it. If you are getting hit with advertising for certain foods here, there and everywhere it will make you crave it a bit and then yeah, it is down to the person but these large food companies do know how to suck people in
Apparently it doesn't work all that well anymore.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnewman/2015/04/28/research-shows-millennials-dont-respond-to-ads/#56c46405599e
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Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
I have a life, a little one, but still a life. I don't let people dictate my food choices because I decide what I want. My ILs 50th wedding anniversary party had lots of food and about 25-30 people. I had plenty of people offering me food and drinks because that happens at parties. I only accepted a glass of diet soda pop out of guilt because the hosts has specifically bought it for me (no one else drinks pop unless it's Coke + booze). I didn't eat anything as I decided I didn't want to eat it.
You control what you eat.8 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
Of course life happens but at which point do we take control. I wasn't going to be the one they airlift from the window to get out my house9 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
Of course life happens but at which point do we take control. I wasn't going to be the one they airlift from the window to get out my house
Agreed wholeheartedly.0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
You can have a life and make decisions on your own. Saying "no" is not that hard. Take responsibility.13 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
As an adult, the only factor is what and how much YOU choose to put in YOUR mouth. Unless the circumstances involve a health issue or a true lack of money they are just excuses.4 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »fitforeternity493 wrote: »I never once blamed Fast Food places for me becoming technically obese but I also don't let them off the hook either... If anything I blamed my Significant Other and people around me for taking me to eat at these places and watching me grow to a size that is unsafe and unattractive... I had to take a look in the mirror and realize that if I wanted to be healthy I had to do it on my own accord and when I was ready. Becoming ready to change though was a process that didn't happen overnight , it took months.
On the blame list is McDonalds, your SO and your friends.
At some point, do you think you were partly culpable?
Depends if force feeding is involved or not
It's understandable.
Circumstances, social life, environmental factors all play part in our choices.
It seems like most people here just do not have a life.
Can you clarify the last point? Are you suggesting the people saying that food choice comes down to personal responsibility don't have social pressures influencing their decision so it's easier for them?5
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