Epsom Salts?
Options
Replies
-
philosophy4lifeonly wrote: »Like I said. Where is it stated that someone posted that epsom factually is a detox. I'm not on here defending anyone. I'm just asking where and what post states that epsom salt is a proven detox. That's all I was asking. I thought maybe I'm not seeing what others are. I'm not offended at all. Now, if the person's post stated that epsom salt is a detox and they had actual proof that is is/was and couldn't defend their answer, then yes they're wrong,wrong,wtong. But if a person states something and doesn't say it's a proven fact is very much different. Investigate a claim or educating people is one thing. Making a statement out of something that's not said is different.ladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.4
-
I don't think anyone ever doubted that Epsom salts have some benefits when it comes to relaxing in a warm bath with sore muscles. The specific statement that people challenged, as they always will and rightfully so, is that Epsom salts "detox" the body. Time and again on these forums people come looking for support in engaging in a detox and time and again they are asked what specific toxins they think they are ridding from their body that aren't handled by our livers and kidneys. Rather than saying "you know, I never thought of that, that makes sense, I'm glad I didn't waste my time/money/bodily fluids on this after all" many times they get defensive or someone swoops in to defend them".
Challenging naive, bogus claims is not a judgement on the poster and doesn't need to be defended. Asking people to use common sense, some critical thinking, and maybe harken back to a bit of basic biology is not an attack. When I have bought into something that didn't work or was a waste of my money (and believe me there have been plenty of times I have), I wish someone would have saved me the time and money. If it came with a refresher course on science and deductive reasoning too, I'd be thanking people!6 -
Epsom salt baths might not help sore muscles, but they will certainly give you psychic powers.
5 -
-
Alatariel75 wrote: »philosophy4lifeonly wrote: »Like I said. Where is it stated that someone posted that epsom factually is a detox. I'm not on here defending anyone. I'm just asking where and what post states that epsom salt is a proven detox. That's all I was asking. I thought maybe I'm not seeing what others are. I'm not offended at all. Now, if the person's post stated that epsom salt is a detox and they had actual proof that is is/was and couldn't defend their answer, then yes they're wrong,wrong,wtong. But if a person states something and doesn't say it's a proven fact is very much different. Investigate a claim or educating people is one thing. Making a statement out of something that's not said is different.ladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
But where did this person say that it's a fact?0 -
philosophy4lifeonly wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »philosophy4lifeonly wrote: »Like I said. Where is it stated that someone posted that epsom factually is a detox. I'm not on here defending anyone. I'm just asking where and what post states that epsom salt is a proven detox. That's all I was asking. I thought maybe I'm not seeing what others are. I'm not offended at all. Now, if the person's post stated that epsom salt is a detox and they had actual proof that is is/was and couldn't defend their answer, then yes they're wrong,wrong,wtong. But if a person states something and doesn't say it's a proven fact is very much different. Investigate a claim or educating people is one thing. Making a statement out of something that's not said is different.ladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
But where did this person say that it's a fact?
The statement itself is inherently phrased as a statement of fact. If everyone had to preface every statement with "it is a fact that..." the forums would be even more ridiculous.6 -
How can you say people need to use common sense when you stated that you purchased things that didn't work. Common sense would have told you to look into the product or "research" it before purchasing. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black0
-
Ok. Alatariel75. I see the bold print loud and clear. But still where does it say that it's a proven fact. A person can say anything. It's the perception of how the receiver takes it. I understand exactly what you're saying, but the way it's being perceived isnt the way it's stated. The person should have immediately clarified that this was his/her mistake for saying something they had read or however they got the information. But,oh,wait. They did say where they got their information. Links were included, whether they're correct or not. Evidence was there. It's up to the reader to read the links and determine if it's factual or not. It's just as easy as you saying that a particular food is good. Maybe to you it is. To others it's your choice.1
-
philosophy4lifeonly wrote: »Ok. Alatariel75. I see the bold print loud and clear. But still where does it say that it's a proven fact. A person can say anything. It's the perception of how the receiver takes it. I understand exactly what you're saying, but the way it's being perceived isnt the way it's stated. The person should have immediately clarified that this was his/her mistake for saying something they had read or however they got the information. But,oh,wait. They did say where they got their information. Links were included, whether they're correct or not. Evidence was there. It's up to the reader to read the links and determine if it's factual or not. It's just as easy as you saying that a particular food is good. Maybe to you it is. To others it's your choice.
Facts aren't a choice. I don't understand why this has hatched a big enough bug that you feel the need to join a forum to defend someone's rights to make unsubstantiated claims.
If someone has a right to make a claim, others have a right to refute it and request facts to back it up. That's education and discourse. I despair of a world where that is discouraged.3 -
ladarius93. Looks like you need to clarify in your post next time specifically whether or not something is your opinion, word of others or "scientifically true" so epsom salt and other products won't be banned. You're on a board with a lot of doctors, scientist and chemist.2
-
You're not bs'ing. I only mentioned the epsom salt detox because of what Ive learned about in the past and read. Maybe I should've rephrased it and said "I HEARD EPSOM SALT SOAKS WILL DETOX","BUT THAT'S ONLY WHAT I'VE HEARD."Maybe then everyone would be on the same page. But I'm human and own up to my faults and mistakes. Yes, it was a big f◇<#!×£ mistake to say the statement. So to everyone that was offended and judgmental;1
-
Repost: Epsom salt baths have been known to help alleviate pain and some muscle soreness. BUT, IT IS NOT A DETOX. Hope that's more educated and substantial enough.1
-
philosophy4lifeonly wrote: »ladarius93. Looks like you need to clarify in your post next time specifically whether or not something is your opinion, word of others or "scientifically true" so epsom salt and other products won't be banned. You're on a board with a lot of doctors, scientist and chemist.
Actually many of us are, which is why making dubious claims then joking about a having a masters in biology is a bit offensive to those who studied science and obtained bachelors, masters degrees or PhDs in these subjects.
Even still there are many who don't have a degree in these subjects and it is not their profession, but they have enough respect for knowledge, scientific method, and burden of proof to challenge such claims when they are posted.
What I will never understand is why people are prideful and boastful of their ignorance. Not to say that ignorance is something to be ashamed of, it certainly isn't, I am ignorant about many topics. But rather than dismissing or mocking those who are more knowledgeable than me, I try to learn from them, not defend my ignorance with statements like "well I never said it is a fact".6 -
Am not offering reliable studies and this isn't any scientific proof, but both my DH & i find the Epsom Salt baths to be of great benefit.
This isn't to say everyone should go purchase "epsom salts" however @dewd2, many ppl recommend the use of Epsom salts and have done so for years.
I did not comment on this until the more ridiculous claims were made. If you feel like it helps you, go for it. People do it all the time. As a runner I like massages and I like to stretch after I run. Neither has any real benefit. It just makes me 'feel good'. The difference is I will never tell anyone that either is necessary or that they do things they do not do. And I do believe I stated earlier in the thread that the research that Epsom salt does anything is very weak. I didn't completely dismiss it even though the study is a bit suspect. More research is required.
1 -
FYI winogelato, I do have a Master's in Biology. After the young lady/man posted that "TBH, I wonder if you actually have a master's, I gave a sarcastic answer to her/his sarcastic question.0
-
So who's ignorant and defending their ignorance.1
-
ladarius93 wrote: »So who's ignorant and defending their ignorance.
0 -
There are always people in this world that knows more than other people. And there are people that are not as smart or educated on topics. But before you start talking about people and name calling, you need to get your facts right. For one, I would never call myself or nobody else ignorant. #2. I am no smarter or think that I know any more than anyone else on this board.So if you consider yourself ignorant, so be it. But I don't consider nobody ignorant. That's your preference.1
-
Ignorant (adjective): lacking knowledge, information or awareness about something in particular.
Everyone is ignorant about something. Correction. Everyone is ignorant about lots of things.3 -
WinoGelato wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »So who's ignorant and defending their ignorance.
Good. I'm glad you don't!0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 391.9K Introduce Yourself
- 43.5K Getting Started
- 259.8K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.7K Food and Nutrition
- 47.3K Recipes
- 232.3K Fitness and Exercise
- 398 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.4K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.5K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 152.8K Motivation and Support
- 7.9K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.4K MyFitnessPal Information
- 23 News and Announcements
- 977 Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.4K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions