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Glycogen storage disease type III: modified Atkins diet improves myopathy
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In both patients, creatine kinase levels in blood dropped in response to Atkins diet. When diet was withdrawn in one of the patients he complained of chest pain, reduced physical strength and creatine kinase levels rapidly increased. This was reversed when Atkins diet was reintroduced. One patient suffered from severe cardiomyopathy which significantly improved under diet.
Patients with glycogenosis IIIa benefit from an improved energetic state of heart and skeletal muscle by introduction of Atkins diet both on a biochemical and clinical level. Apart from transient hypoglycaemia no serious adverse effects were observed.
Thank you for the link, my Mother had been told; that my diet should be mostly protein & low carbohydrate (as in the minimum, not Atkins) My hypoglycemia in my single digit years was severe/frequent enough, that I had seizures & 2 heart attacks (nearly a year apart), to require me to be fed milk through the night; via a Kangaroo machine. My hypoglycemia has stabilized enough, as an adolescent/adult; to not be problematic if I feed every 4 to 6 hours (depending upon activity levels and/or menstruation).0 -
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »
No because I only had an hour, to meet with her & she spent much of it researching my liver disease: Glycogen Storage Disease Type III, since she hadn't dealt with my disease prior; before she'd formulate a plan for me.
It doesn't appear, that he's a Dietitian; anyone's able to blog.
OH GOODNES YOU HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION related to carbohydrates!
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/glycogen-storage-disease-type-iii
AHHH something you might should have mentioned earlier, as it sorta...changes things. Best of luck. This particular issue doesn't sound too easy to deal with!0 -
I did Atkins years ago. I ate bacon, pork, steak, cheese and cauliflower. I lost 45 lbs pretty easily with almost no hunger. BUT I couldn't stay on it for maintenance gained it all back plus some.
Oddly enough I don't eat meat now.
Atkins involves quite a bit of vegetables. Did you only eat cauliflower? that sounds awful.1 -
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Thank you for the link, my Mother had been told; that my diet should be mostly protein & low carbohydrate (as in the minimum, not Atkins) My hypoglycemia in my single digit years was severe/frequent enough, that I had seizures & 2 heart attacks (nearly a year apart), to require me to be fed milk through the night; via a Kangaroo machine. My hypoglycemia has stabilized enough, as an adolescent/adult; to not be problematic if I feed every 4 to 6 hours (depending upon activity levels and/or menstruation).
That's a hard one. I wish you the best in dealing with it. Glad you are handlig it so well now.0 -
I don't find it fun to read oxymorons that aren't for comical effect:
"No one should be surprised that it’s glucose rather than carbohydrates that our brains run on."
I think they simply forgot to put the word "dietary" before carbohydrates. People can eat vitually zero carbs and have perfectly functioning brains.
... That seemed weird to type. LOL0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
bwahahahaha. A picture makes the posts relevant? Can I magically tell things about you by your photo? Are your comments somehow more believable because you have your face and right shirtless shoulder on your profile? Does it have to be a face pic? Mine is, after all. And would xmichaelyx's (above) count? His head's not in it. Maybe his opinion counts more because you can see his torso? What, exactly are the parameters here, new fella?
Did you have any reply to my post about the history of carbohydrate control? Or you're just going to talk about the lack of a profile photo now. got it.
Taking into consideration I have been reported for a 2nd time for commenting on this post I have absolutely nothing more to add.0 -
For the purposes of this thread I'm pro Atkins as a perfectly good diet that can be done healthfully, but still...I've done low carb a couple of times for the first few weeks of losing weight. It gave me a good kickstart, and helped remind me that there are a lot of things you can eat that are delicious other than cookies, cakes, and ice cream (that is, it helped me focus on alternative choices).
One reason I think cutting out foods or special diets can be useful even if done temporarily is to get one out of a rut and finding alternative choices, so I totally get this. It's one reason I make sure my desserts aren't always sweet and cut out meat sometimes and added sugar sometimes.
However, even though I am sure you know this, I hate so much "carbs" being equated with "junk food" or less nutrient-dense choices, that I have to say -- simply have to! :-) -- that the foods you mention are as much fat as carbs, whereas there are lots of "alternative choices" that happen to be higher carb and delicious and yet nutrient dense and lower calorie.3 -
Taking into consideration I have been reported for a 2nd time for commenting on this post I have absolutely nothing more to add.
That "freedom of speech" thing again?
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You should comment again so that the conditioning done can undergo shaping. You'd eventually learn it isn't your posting in this thread that's the issue, it is posting anywhere that you argue against the messenger, rather than the message. It isn't just rude, it doesn't lead to right answers either. Think about it at the most extreme: Mr. Olympia competitors all have physiques that are essentially inhumanly good, but do you think that makes their advice instantly applicable? On the other end, if someone had a PhD in nutrition science but had become a quadriplegic, would you say they can't tell you anything about nutrition because they don't even lift?
Dont forget about childless pediatricians and teachers.5 -
Alluminati wrote: »
Dont forget about childless pediatricians and teachers.
Fabulous. Both of you.2 -
Christine_72 wrote: »
Curious on why you gained it back?
I started eating carbs again and didn't stick to the under 40 carbs that made me gain. Don't get me wrong the diet worked it was just not sustainable for ME.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Atkins involves quite a bit of vegetables. Did you only eat cauliflower? that sounds awful.
A few others but not a lot of others. I tend to eat the same things on a regular basis so those were my staples. I couldn't go over 40 carbs without gaining.0 -
A few others but not a lot of others. I tend to eat the same things on a regular basis so those were my staples. I couldn't go over 40 carbs without gaining.
I'm confused, I guess. Are you now losing weight with just calorie counting?
Thanks for the reply!0 -
I started eating carbs again and didn't stick to the under 40 carbs that made me gain. Don't get me wrong the diet worked it was just not sustainable for ME.
Did the increase of carbs, or the increase in calories cause your regain? The reason i ask is i did low carb for around 4mths, and was petrified that I'd gain the weight back when i switched back over to moderate carbs. But i only gained 2lb which dropped back off after a couple of weeks. I stayed in the same deficit/same amount of calories, therefore it would not have made sense for me to gain the weight back.
So many people say "You'll gain the weight right back when you stop low carbing", it just doesn't make sense to me, unless they go back to over eating.3 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
I'm confused, I guess. Are you now losing weight with just calorie counting?
Thanks for the reply!
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Which means you went UP on your calories when you went UP on your carbs, yes? i.e. eating more carbs didn't make you gain weight (by your own description).2 -
I've done it and lost on it. Atkins works but it is tricky because you are messing with blood chemistry. If you are scrupulous about following a diet, especially for the first couple of weeks then go for it. If you are prone to cheating, then this diet can quickly become a super-size me nightmare. I found it unsustainable from an economic and culinary perspective BUT it does teach you to appreciate what protein can do for you, especially if you are working out regularly with weights. I now eat, more proteins because of it and still get to enjoy some carbs.0
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While I eat low carb for pain control I think any way of eating is just a starting point and will need to be tweaked as the years passed by.0
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Which means you went UP on your calories when you went UP on your carbs, yes? i.e. eating more carbs didn't make you gain weight (by your own description).
Logically eating more carbs means eating more calories. Old Atkins wasn't about counting calories only carbs. So increasing my carbs I ate too much gained weight. Having said that I couldn't do it again as I don't eat meat nor do I want to give up some fav carbs. I'm not knocking that it works though just like counting calories works.0 -
My Mother has followed the Atkins diet for 10 plus years to control her diabetes , and has had some minor weight fluctuation but nothing major. She has never had to be put on insulin for it either. There are carbs in virtually all vegetables, beans and fruits. The Diet is LOW Carb not NO carb. To truly make something work you have to have the desire to succeed.1
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I low carbed for ten years. In the end, it wasn't sustainable for me. Since I wasn't counting calories at the time, it also didn't get my weight anywhere near where I wanted it to be either. At one point, I even gained weight. (I was always a stress eater, I'm not blaming the gain on the way of eating, but pointing out that a macro balance alone won't control your weight like I thought at the time. I don't feel Atkin's book... at least the edition I read... emphasized caloric intake enough. I also didn't have good tools at the time for calorie counting. This was a while ago.)
Like another poster above, I now no longer eat meat. Low carbing was an odd choice for me given that I was never crazy about meat in the first place, but when you're willing to try anything, I guess that's what happens.
Atkins can be a good choice for someone for whom the food choices fit personal preferences and satisfy hunger, though.1 -
I did try Atkins many years ago, when it was fashionable. I loved the food! The programme involved gradually increasing carbs, and so I was happily eating nuts, legumes, even grains on the diet. I ate a lot of vegetables, salads, stirfries and so on, some meat, fish, eggs, and dairy. I didn't try the processed Atkins products. Yes, I lost weight, and no, I didn't seem to get any side effects. I only stopped because I was advised to because of a health issue, and yes, I immediately regained and more (switched to "healthy eating", more frequent meals, high carb/whole grain).
I'm currently doing a very casual sort of LCHF combined with IF, which is working to shift some weight.0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I low carbed for ten years. In the end, it wasn't sustainable for me. Since I wasn't counting calories at the time, it also didn't get my weight anywhere near where I wanted it to be either. At one point, I even gained weight. (I was always a stress eater, I'm not blaming the gain on the way of eating, but pointing out that a macro balance alone won't control your weight like I thought at the time. I don't feel Atkin's book... at least the edition I read... emphasized caloric intake enough. I also didn't have good tools at the time for calorie counting. This was a while ago.)
Like another poster above, I now no longer eat meat. Low carbing was an odd choice for me given that I was never crazy about meat in the first place, but when you're willing to try anything, I guess that's what happens.
Atkins can be a good choice for someone for whom the food choices fit personal preferences and satisfy hunger, though.
Since going LCHF two years ago my I also eat less meat then my 63 prior years for sure and by default eat a lot more plant based calories too. After being LCHF for two years I can not see Atkins in my future any longer because it would not be sustainable in my case I expect. Atkins does seem to work for some long term from what I read..0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Since going LCHF two years ago my I also eat less meat then my 63 prior years for sure and by default eat a lot more plant based calories too. After being LCHF for two years I can not see Atkins in my future any longer because it would not be sustainable in my case I expect. Atkins does seem to work for some long term from what I read..
I'm not crazy about fat either. Neither is my GERD.
LCHF is definitely not for me. I feel most satiated with a mix of carbs/protein.
Like you, I have a spondylopathy. I manage my pain by keeping my weight low.1 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
I'm not crazy about fat either. Neither is my GERD.
LCHF is definitely not for me. I feel most satiated with a mix of carbs/protein.
Like you, I have a spondylopathy. I manage my pain by keeping my weight low.
In the end it comes down to what works for each of us. My pain really dropped the first 30 days after I got off of all sugar and grain containing foods and I did not lose my first pound of weight until after 45 days in my case.
I had removed most of the remaining pain by different supplements. I have been a supplement vacation for 3 days so far. Since I have been on fish oil for 20 years and use it as my blood thinner as well I have continued it. After 12 hours I added back coconut and MTC oil because moving was causing pain. I really noticed pain when shaking hands at church for the first time in over a year. I just added back 3 grams of liposomal Vit C. I have not decided what I am going to add back next. I am trying to stay off the Ashwagandha for a full week but it was what that mopped up my last bit of pain I expect. Due to the advanced Ankylosing Spondylitis I have next to no movement from my skull to tail bone. After 30 years its kind of seems normal however to me but makes driving a pain.0 -
MoniMadnezz wrote: »Have any of you ever did the ATKINS meal plan..I have and didn't like it.. Did you guys like it? Tell me your thoughts on it! Did consuming low carbs help you lose weight??
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I use Atkins vanila protein powder 1 scoop with quarter a cup of frozen blueberries and milk very tasty and filling total 270 calories i have this either for breakfast or lunch once a day0
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