Losing 4-5 pounds /week?
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leejoyce31 wrote: »NewGemini130 wrote: »I actually have seen a lot of the 2/week on boards but no real evidence why. I can see the dangers if you are crashing or starving yourself but this isn't the situation. The other info all over is the 1200 minimum which I'm sticking to. Not trying to incite anger, people -just trying to learn.
It seems a bit dramatic to tell me I am damaging my heart with 1200/day and 45 min walking. Geez. My doctor hasn't said that. This was exact what she told me to do.NewGemini130 wrote: »I actually have seen a lot of the 2/week on boards but no real evidence why. I can see the dangers if you are crashing or starving yourself but this isn't the situation. The other info all over is the 1200 minimum which I'm sticking to. Not trying to incite anger, people -just trying to learn.
It seems a bit dramatic to tell me I am damaging my heart with 1200/day and 45 min walking. Geez. My doctor hasn't said that. This was exact what she told me to do.
Yeah they went pretty extreme on you. Just keep in mind these people don't know. So at the end of the day the harsh words don't matter. I think your weight loss will slow in time but if you are concerned about losing too fast you should eat a little more. I do agree that rapid weight loss can pose some potential problems. Talk to your doctor to further insight. Good luck
No one's words have been harsh in this thread. They're trying to help stop a person from doing lasting damage to their health.
"So leave it to natural selection, guys". Harsh.
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leejoyce31 wrote: »NewGemini130 wrote: »I actually have seen a lot of the 2/week on boards but no real evidence why. I can see the dangers if you are crashing or starving yourself but this isn't the situation. The other info all over is the 1200 minimum which I'm sticking to. Not trying to incite anger, people -just trying to learn.
It seems a bit dramatic to tell me I am damaging my heart with 1200/day and 45 min walking. Geez. My doctor hasn't said that. This was exact what she told me to do.NewGemini130 wrote: »I actually have seen a lot of the 2/week on boards but no real evidence why. I can see the dangers if you are crashing or starving yourself but this isn't the situation. The other info all over is the 1200 minimum which I'm sticking to. Not trying to incite anger, people -just trying to learn.
It seems a bit dramatic to tell me I am damaging my heart with 1200/day and 45 min walking. Geez. My doctor hasn't said that. This was exact what she told me to do.
Yeah they went pretty extreme on you. Just keep in mind these people don't know. So at the end of the day the harsh words don't matter. I think your weight loss will slow in time but if you are concerned about losing too fast you should eat a little more. I do agree that rapid weight loss can pose some potential problems. Talk to your doctor to further insight. Good luck
Wait a minute. If telling someone the truth is harsh, then I'll be harsh on any day of the week. To do otherwise is to help a human being stay in denial, which can lead to real problems.
Reality check: the OP is losing 4-5 pounds a week and does not want to slow it down.
This means she is inclined to do whatever it takes to try and create a situation where it does not slow down. OP, if I am incorrect, please correct me.
I agree that she should talk to her doctor and ask for a referral to a registered dietitian and a treatment program for people with disordered eating.5 -
NewGemini130 wrote: »But I am following the mfp recommendation which suggests 1200/day (to lose 2/week) based on my info I've put in there. I know some people override that. So I'm my situation am I supposed to go over each day to slow it down? Also I don't eat the exercise calories, but the walking only gives me like 250 or so.
Also I am NOT under repotting. I measure and track everything.
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tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »An example of the outcome of too rapid weight loss: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10468502/diabetes-obesity#latest
OP, read this girl's experience. This is a new thread too.
I did - sorry for her experience but I am not on a low carb high protein diet, which is likely the root of her liver problems. BTW I'm avoiding diabetes by losing weight- obesity is the #1 risk. Her saying she got diabetes from fast weight loss doesn't jive with what I know, and this is one of the main things on my radar as there's diabetes in my family.
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NewGemini130 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »An example of the outcome of too rapid weight loss: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10468502/diabetes-obesity#latest
OP, read this girl's experience. This is a new thread too.
I did - sorry for her experience but I am not on a low carb high protein diet, which is likely the root of her liver problems. BTW I'm avoiding diabetes by losing weight- obesity is the #1 risk. Her saying she got diabetes from fast weight loss doesn't jive with what I know, and this is one of the main things on my radar as there's diabetes in my family.
What was the point of asking a question only to deny the answers? I truly don't understand why people do this. Is it an attempt to brag about how unhealthy your weight loss is? People are sacrificing their time to aid in helping you, so if you are so inclined to ignore the advice, why respond at all?
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NewGemini130 wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »An example of the outcome of too rapid weight loss: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10468502/diabetes-obesity#latest
OP, read this girl's experience. This is a new thread too.
I did - sorry for her experience but I am not on a low carb high protein diet, which is likely the root of her liver problems. BTW I'm avoiding diabetes by losing weight- obesity is the #1 risk. Her saying she got diabetes from fast weight loss doesn't jive with what I know, and this is one of the main things on my radar as there's diabetes in my family.
Okay, fair enough as to your comments about not being on a low carb high protein diet and the diabetes.
However, the majority of her side effects are from quick weight loss.0 -
Keep doing what you are doing honey. You have a great system that is working for you. A slow in your weight loss rate may happen as you get smaller, so expect it eventually but don't become discouraged. Listen to your body, be easy on your joints, and keep at it0
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You'll gain it all back, and fast, once you are NOT eating that caloric intake. And I can bet you won't forever. Your body will find ways to tell you this is not enough for it to sustain life forever.2
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Keep doing what you are doing honey. You have a great system that is working for you. A slow in your weight loss rate may happen as you get smaller, so expect it eventually but don't become discouraged. Listen to your body, be easy on your joints, and keep at it
Really? This is not good advice at all.
She says downstream that she does not want to lose weight at a slower weight.
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I doubt she plans on eating 1200 calories every day forever...
Eventually the goal is to eat at maintenance once a healthy weight has been reached. Which wouldn't cause her to gain all of her lost weight back1 -
I doubt she plans on eating 1200 calories every day forever...
Eventually the goal is to eat at maintenance once a healthy weight has been reached. Which wouldn't cause her to gain all of her lost weight back
When you are intentionally losing weight that quickly and don't want it to stop, then that's a problem.3 -
Your metabolism will slow down and when you start eating more, it will store whatever is in excess of the caloric intake you were eating before as fat. You will eventually gain your weight back once you're not eating this caloric value anymore.0
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Keep doing what you are doing honey. You have a great system that is working for you. A slow in your weight loss rate may happen as you get smaller, so expect it eventually but don't become discouraged. Listen to your body, be easy on your joints, and keep at it
Really? This is not good advice at all.
She says downstream that she does not want to lose weight at a slower weight.
Neither did I initially either.
Who can genuinely say " Oh! I'm really looking forward to slowing down my weight loss while I'm still unhealthy and very overweight and uncomfortable "
It's nice and reassuring to see the lbs drop quickly and consistently without having to starve yourself, finally finding a system that works. If she is not starving herself, has sustainable energy throughout the day and is listening to her body along with checking in with her doctor....what is the problem ?2 -
Keep doing what you are doing honey. You have a great system that is working for you. A slow in your weight loss rate may happen as you get smaller, so expect it eventually but don't become discouraged. Listen to your body, be easy on your joints, and keep at it
Really? This is not good advice at all.
She says downstream that she does not want to lose weight at a slower weight.
Neither did I initially either.
Who can genuinely say " Oh! I'm really looking forward to slowing down my weight loss while I'm still unhealthy and very overweight and uncomfortable "
It's nice and reassuring to see the lbs drop quickly and consistently without having to starve yourself, finally finding a system that works. If she is not starving herself, has sustainable energy throughout the day and is listening to her body along with checking in with her doctor....what is the problem ?
Did you read the whole thread?3 -
Keep doing what you are doing honey. You have a great system that is working for you. A slow in your weight loss rate may happen as you get smaller, so expect it eventually but don't become discouraged. Listen to your body, be easy on your joints, and keep at it
Really? This is not good advice at all.
She says downstream that she does not want to lose weight at a slower weight.
Neither did I initially either.
Who can genuinely say " Oh! I'm really looking forward to slowing down my weight loss while I'm still unhealthy and very overweight and uncomfortable "
It's nice and reassuring to see the lbs drop quickly and consistently without having to starve yourself, finally finding a system that works. If she is not starving herself, has sustainable energy throughout the day and is listening to her body along with checking in with her doctor....what is the problem ?
You don't think losing 4 to 5 pounds a week is starving oneself?
Did you read all the postings in this thread? Many problems are listed upstream.2 -
People who are considered obese lose a lot of weight rather quickly with a small caloric deficit compared to others who are already in a healthy weight range. She says that she is still obese. The chances of organ failure and all of these other health issues listed in this thread are more likely to happen to her the longer she holds on to the unhealthy weight putting more strain and work on her body. Not the other way around.
She also says that she doesn't purposely want to slow down her weight loss in the future. Not that she would do something drastic or insane to keep it going once she reaches near a healthy weight.3 -
People who are considered obese lose a lot of weight rather quickly with a small caloric deficit compared to others who are already in a healthy weight range. She says that she is still obese. The chances of organ failure and all of these other health issues listed in this thread are more likely to happen to her the longer she holds on to the unhealthy weight putting more strain and work on her body. Not the other way around.
She also says that she doesn't purposely want to slow down her weight loss in the future. Not that she would do something drastic or insane to keep it going once she reaches near a healthy weight.
You still don't answer that you've read the entire thread. OP is netting negative calories. In no way, shape, or form is that healthy, no matter how obese. And you do realize that how she is approaching weight loss now is how eating disorders start, correct? I'm not saying she will develop one, but to assume she will stop drastic matters is dangerously encouraging her.
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A couple of people who are viewing my food diary suggested my Calorie goal is too high . I'm 6'0 and 455 pounds and of course I'm trying to lose as much weight as possible. What should be my calorie goal? An if you was in my shoes what would be your exercise goal daily? I want to burn at least a 1,000 calories a day and eat no more then 2,000. It's gonna take a couple of weeks to get the nutrition down pack with out starving myself.I'm full confident that I can burn at least 1,200 calories daily
Please feel free to check out and critique Food Diary:0 -
People who are considered obese lose a lot of weight rather quickly with a small caloric deficit compared to others who are already in a healthy weight range. She says that she is still obese. The chances of organ failure and all of these other health issues so e have listed in this thread are more likely to happen to her the longer she holds on to the unhealthy weight. Not the other way around. She also says that she doesn't purposely want to slow down her weight loss in the future. Not that she would do something drastic or insane to keep it going once she reaches a healthy weight.
She is 195 at 5'7". That hardly qualifies for a 4-5 pound weight loss per week.
It's safe to lose 1% of your body weight, which would be about 1.5 pounds per week for her. 1% of body weight of a 400 or 500 pound person would warrant a 4-5 pound loss per week because the risks of staying overweight would far outweigh quick weight loss.
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abneyhakeem89 wrote: »A couple of people who are viewing my food diary suggested my Calorie goal is too high . I'm 6'0 and 455 pounds and of course I'm trying to lose as much weight as possible. What should be my calorie goal? An if you was in my shoes what would be your exercise goal daily? I want to burn at least a 1,000 calories a day and eat no more then 2,000. It's gonna take a couple of weeks to get the nutrition down pack with out starving myself.I'm full confident that I can burn at least 1,200 calories daily
Please feel free to check out and critique Food Diary:
Sorry, but you would be better off posting your own thread. Hijacking someone else's is against the forum rules.
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I respect your percentages and all of that but listen weight loss is not the same for everyone. Can you accept that? No?
So do you suggest that she stops working out? Or just eat more even if she isn't hungry because the excess fat that she already has stored in her body isn't enough to keep her healthy?0 -
OP, I put your stats into a BMI calculator and see that you are only 4 lbs away from moving from obese to overweight. It is indeed time to slow down the weight loss.1
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I respect your percentages and all of that but listen weight loss is not the safe for everyone. Can you accept that? No?
So do you suggest that she stops working out? Or just eat more even if she isn't hungry because the excess fat that she already has stored in her body isn't enough to keep her healthy?
What? Do you mean weight loss is not the same for everyone?
No, she simply needs to start eating more to sustain a more reasonable deficit. End of story.
At the most, she's only about 45 pounds overweight. http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm4 -
goldthistime wrote: »OP, I put your stats into a BMI calculator and see that you are only 4 lbs away from moving from obese to overweight. It is indeed time to slow down the weight loss.
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I respect your percentages and all of that but listen weight loss is not the safe for everyone. Can you accept that? No?
So do you suggest that she stops working out? Or just eat more even if she isn't hungry because the excess fat that she already has stored in her body isn't enough to keep her healthy?
You do realize that the body doesn't just take from fat, right? It takes from everywhere, including muscles. Higher the deficit, the higher rate the body is going to pull from there, which you do not want. Cause guess what is a muscle? Oh yeah, the heart. So no, her body isn't pulling just from fat. It's pulling from everywhere at an unsafe rate, especially netting negative calories. So I'm not sure why you continue to condone such unhealthy behavior, especially when nothing you spew makes sense.
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vespiquenn wrote: »People who are considered obese lose a lot of weight rather quickly with a small caloric deficit compared to others who are already in a healthy weight range. She says that she is still obese. The chances of organ failure and all of these other health issues listed in this thread are more likely to happen to her the longer she holds on to the unhealthy weight putting more strain and work on her body. Not the other way around.
She also says that she doesn't purposely want to slow down her weight loss in the future. Not that she would do something drastic or insane to keep it going once she reaches near a healthy weight.
You still don't answer that you've read the entire thread. OP is netting negative calories. In no way, shape, or form is that healthy, no matter how obese. And you do realize that how she is approaching weight loss now is how eating disorders start, correct? I'm not saying she will develop one, but to assume she will stop drastic matters is dangerously encouraging her.
Finally, I've read the whole thread.
Well hey, I'm sorry for having faith in her that she has enough sensibility to not develop an eating disorder from the excitement of dropping weight rather quickly compared to general guidelines . In no way would I want someone to become unhealthy for example seeing her reach 140 lbs and still seeking to lose 4lbs per week.2 -
NewGemini130 wrote: »...Also honestly I don't think I had much muscle to lose, lol. I was very flabby and completely sedentary. My walking has built more muscle than I had before, undoubtably. I probably should add in weights so thanks for that, but not sure how to do so. I'll look into that...
Yes, please look into adding more protein to your diet and doing some strength training. It is nearly impossible for you to be building a significant (if any) amount of muscle when you are eating at a large deficit and experiencing rapid weight loss like you are. So don't think that you have more muscle than you did before. You likely have less already.
The best you can hope for is to try to hold on to as much lean mass as possible while you are losing weight. Some loss of lean mass will happen when we lose weight, but we want to minimize it. Having more lean mass helps us burn more calories at rest, it makes us stronger, and it looks really good. If you get to goal and you've lost too much lean mass you're probably not going to be as happy with the results. Focus on getting to goal in the healthiest, most sustainable way possible for the best, longest-lasting results.
It's best to have your weight loss diet resemble your permanent, maintenance diet as closely as possible (with fewer calories of course.) Otherwise, when people switch to a different way of eating once they hit goal, they tend to regain and then some. Glad you're here and open to seeking advice. Good luck, OP!
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OP I too started off eating the goal set for 2 lb per week loss and experienced about 3-3.5 lb per week loss for the first like two months of this. My issue that I found out later was that I totally underestimated my activity levels I had always thought I was lightly active at most. I was eating around 1400 calories and losing fast. Once I got my Fitbit and found that my activity level day to day was more active, I eat around 1600-1700 calories a day and lose an average of 2 lbs per week. I am still considered obese even with my current weight loss.
The issue I see with you is that you are not eating your exercise calories back and are netting WAY too low each day. You shouldn't strive for max weight loss in such a short time. I personally thing you underestimate your activity level and do not eat back exercise calories and you are creating an unsafe deficit.
What is more alarming is the fact that you are arguing with everyone on here except the people telling you that what you want to hear. Listen to these people telling you this info. Many of them have lost lots of weight the healthy way and know what they are talking about. DO the research about this if you don't believe it. No one wants to see anyone not achieve their goals, but what you are doing is classic of a yo-yo dieter.7 -
vespiquenn wrote: »People who are considered obese lose a lot of weight rather quickly with a small caloric deficit compared to others who are already in a healthy weight range. She says that she is still obese. The chances of organ failure and all of these other health issues listed in this thread are more likely to happen to her the longer she holds on to the unhealthy weight putting more strain and work on her body. Not the other way around.
She also says that she doesn't purposely want to slow down her weight loss in the future. Not that she would do something drastic or insane to keep it going once she reaches near a healthy weight.
You still don't answer that you've read the entire thread. OP is netting negative calories. In no way, shape, or form is that healthy, no matter how obese. And you do realize that how she is approaching weight loss now is how eating disorders start, correct? I'm not saying she will develop one, but to assume she will stop drastic matters is dangerously encouraging her.
Finally, I've read the whole thread.
Well hey, I'm sorry for having faith in her that she has enough sensibility to not develop an eating disorder from the excitement of dropping weight rather quickly compared to general guidelines . In no way would I want someone to become unhealthy for example seeing her reach 140 lbs and still seeking to lose 4lbs per week.
What? Develop an eating disorder from not having enough "sensibility"? I don't even know how to respond to this.4
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