Teacher says Pop Tarts are not a healthy snack
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cathydubepenner wrote: »
My comments were directed at the people saying that OP is a lazy, irresponsible, or even abusive parent for allowing her child to eat a Pop Tart. This thread has wandered far from what actually happened at this point.
I agree that respecting a teacher is an important concept to instill, and I kind of agree that if a teacher wants to ban specific foods from the classroom then it's not that big a deal. The whole issue stems from the way the teacher handled it. She took the snack away from the child, threw it out, leaving him without a snack, and told him it was because it was unhealthy. This embarrassed this child to the point he now no longer wants his mother to even buy Pop Tarts to be eaten at home. This is the exact opposite of the kind of relationship with food she wants her son to have, so she feels like the teacher undermined her. OP specifically said that they were given no healthy/unhealthy snack guidelines, and that she usually sends him with fruit.
Nothing was stated that the teacher took the snack and threw it away leaving him without a snack. Nothing was mentioned about the teacher embarrassing him. For all we know he was allowed to eat it and then discreetly told not to bring them again. She also sent a note home with him. Obviously this wasn't the first time because she stated he was hesitant in taking the Pop Tart out due to being unhealthy. So obviously there had been a discussion concerning them prior to this time.
And the teacher may well have offered him something else ... but he refused it for one reason or another. We don't know ... we weren't there.
It seems highly unlikely that he would have been forced to go hungry. Most teachers do not want a hungry child in their classrooms.
As I said, we've got one side of the story here, we don't have the whole story. And notice that she hasn't returned to this thread in some time.
Considering the judgement, misquoting, and accusations that have been thrown at her, I would have abandoned the thread as well if I were her.8 -
Didn't read all of this massive thread.
Just stopping in to say that my daughter in public school is only allow raw fruits and vegetables.
So nuts, string cheese, deli meat, even apple sauce or peach cups with no added sugar are not allowed.
She won't eat any raw fruit or vegetables - so no snack.
Mostly I'm chapped that they aren't allowed any kind of protein.
I get not allowing sugary yogurt maybe, but she likes Greek yogurts that are plain/vanilla/no sugar added.2 -
JennGardner1 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
I am re-quoting this in bold because it is exactly the point OP tried to make and so many people are missing it.
Which was kind of lost in all of her ignorant blathering on about how there is no such thing as a healthy or unhealthy food. I do not at all agree with how the teacher handled the situation, but that didn't seem to be the main bone of contention in the first post. The issue was she felt it was outrageous to label a Pop Tart as "unhealthy".
"Ignorant blathering"?
Why the personal attack? Seriously?
Nothing about how the OP is teaching her children about nutrition, about how there are no inherently "good" or "bad" foods and it depends on the context of the overall diet, is ignorant. It's true and 100% legitimate.
Sure, have a difference of opinion, but resorting to ad hominem pretty much discredits any argument you may be trying to make.9 -
OMG! Where does this teacher get off making the children eat healthier! This form of dictatorship in the public school system is just appalling!0
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unsuspectingfish wrote: »
400 calories probably make up 1\3 of their daily needs depending on their age, and you want that to go to poptarts? What about poptarts aide in a 'balanced' diet?
2 poptarts have a total of 76g of carbs. That's gross.
Lots of people only eat one pop tart, I believe OP said she gave him one. A 200 calorie sweet treat fits quite nicely into an otherwise nutritious and balanced diet.
76 grams of carbs is "gross"?
I have literally never known anyone who only ate one Poptart. I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just saying that if they do exist, I've never seen them in the wild. Also, if they're only eating one, congrats, they're now only eating 1/6 of their daily calories in what is basically pure sugar on cardboard. Give them a banana with some peanut butter if you really want to give them a snack that's that caloric.
I eat just one pop tart, unless I feel like sacrificing an entire meal to them, which is almost never, and when I do, I usually regret it0 -
Motorsheen wrote: »Can't we all get along?
How about this:
Regular Pop Tarts Good !
Frosted Pop Tarts Bad !
Teacher Good !
Parent Bad !
( Parent Bad... but not as bad as the Frosted Pop Tart; they are Satan.)
I now have an answer for "are pop tarts the devil?"
Only the unfrosted ones are the devil.
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dawnda1234 wrote: »OMG! Where does this teacher get off making the children eat healthier! This form of dictatorship in the public school system is just appalling!
You read this whole 19 page thread, and that's your takeaway from it?4 -
dawnda1234 wrote: »OMG! Where does this teacher get off making the children eat healthier! This form of dictatorship in the public school system is just appalling!
You read this whole 19 page thread, and that's your takeaway from it?
I tried to mark it as insightful but my phone wouldn't let me. I guess it is a smart phone!
Da dum tshhh3 -
Packerjohn wrote: »We got the fishy cracker reprimand from our kids school. This is just a manifistation of how the majority of people these days feel it's the governments responsibility to parent our kids and also parent the parenting. People sincerely believe the governement knows better than we do on whats best. Not just in parenting but in more and more aspects of our lives. We used to be a country of liberty and freedom, but not anymore.
Sorry, just in one of my rare soap box moods today. Carry on..........
We also didn't used to be a country with 70% of the population overweight/obese, high rates of childhood obesity and the government paying over 50% of healthcare costs.
Ya, I'm 50 and when I was a kid there was one obese child in my class. One. Actually, she may have been merely overweight.1 -
AngInCanada wrote: »I always see these kinds of stories, and I've honestly never came across it in my kids school years and have never heard stories from friends. I'm in Canada, so i wonder if there's certain rules or something? Like the story above about her child being forced to drink milk and then stories about kids being forced to eat a certain way unless they get a doctors note. My son and I both have celiac disease and he has secondary lactose intolerance and I've never had to bring a note or anyting. I just said he has celiac disease, don't feed him anything unless he's read the ingredient list, that's it. No issues. They have milk days at school and he gets a juice box. I provide a bag of treats for his classroom in case someone brings in cupcakes or something for a birthday. Only hardset rules in his school are no tree nuts because there's life threatening food allergies. Personally, I wouldn't send my kid to school with a poptart, but it's only because I don't buy them. My oldest son would have the entire box ate in a day, so that food just doesn't come into the house. Funny thing with the teachers suggestions is, I bet if you compared calories/sugar/carbs/fat etc, the granola bar and yogurt would be just as "unhealthy" as the poptart.
Re doctor's notes: my doctors have always provided notes for anything I requested. I explain the situation and get the note. The recipient complies with what the doctor suggested. No drama.0 -
400 calories for a pack of poptarts is certainly trash. I don't know why you'd buy them.Because kids sometime want something sweet and as part of a balanced diet there is nothing wrong with them?
There certainly would be something wrong with giving a 6 year old 400 calories of pop tarts for a "healthy snack." (However, I believe the OP was just sending her child with half a pack.) Want something sweet? Have a tangerine.
Still, if the rule is "healthy snack", despite the ambiguousness of "healthy", 200 calories of Pop Tarts still doesn't qualify.3 -
dawnda1234 wrote: »OMG! Where does this teacher get off making the children eat healthier! This form of dictatorship in the public school system is just appalling!
You read this whole 19 page thread, and that's your takeaway from it?
I'm going to assume the thread was not read.2 -
Thread has been closed since it's divulged down to insults.
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