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    • Posts: 312 Member
      GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
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      We need to run barefoot and nekkid.

      Then we'll be real runners.

      I think I'll try that tomorrow and see what the neighbors think.
      I fully support this endeavour.
    • Posts: 1,890 Member
      GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
      Fun Fact:

      A lot of people buy Fitbits to track activity they're already getting and give them data because they're geeky that way.

      OP may not know this.
      I think I just got called geeky. I am ok with this. I have been called much worse :-)
    • Posts: 863 Member
      GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
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      Ah, to me becoming fit and losing weight go hand in hand because I'm so old and short that I'd have a meager calorie allowance if I didn't at least walk every day :)
      Heh, I'm old and hairy :D
      No, you don't need to spend money to lose weight.

      However, here's where I think the difficulty arose:

      The OP mentioned fitbits, but a fitbit isn't a weight loss gadget. A fitibit is a fitness tool. She conflated the two.

      There are misconceptions that fitness alone will make you lose weight, but that doesn't mean that people here (or anywhere) choosing to use a fitbit are necessarily ignorant of the fact that using a fitbit is not going to make them lose weight. The OP's implication that we're all lacking in this knowledge was insulting.
      Ah gotcha - I admittedly breezed over that for some reason.
    • Posts: 263 Member
      Cylphin60 wrote: »
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      @K3rB3ar89 oh no you didn't....I stopped reading right here do not go after mah spaghetti girl ...we will fight! >:)

      To the OPs point, just about everything that's been named in this thread that are nice to haves/must haves (some I'm in agreement with) are aids to get fit.

      Although health markers will almost certainly improve with weight loss alone, you don't have to get fit to lose weight. I personally think they go nicely together, but if I "Only" focused on weight loss without the fitness I would not need the shoes/gym memberships/fitbits/thing to hold the girls up ( That would look funny on my hairy self) and all the other niceties that make getting fit easier.

      She specifically cited the "diet industry" not the fitness industry.

      I'm done. Come at me. :p

      Ugh dont even start! It was more a finger of speech then literal.. yall are too serious! Lol..
    • Posts: 863 Member
      K3rB3ar89 wrote: »
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      Ugh dont even start! It was more a finger of speech then literal.. yall are too serious! Lol..

      Am not!

      :D
    • Posts: 2,081 Member
      GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
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      I think we have here another newish poster who has made a lot of assumptions about the people who populate these forums. She wants to enlighten us based on those assumptions.

      Who also happens to be dead wrong.

      This is what happens when you take no time to actually read a lot of threads before diving in and getting a feel for the culture of the place.

      Here's the thing....I don't think her initial post was that far off base except for use of the term sheep. It has gone somewhat downhill from there, I would agree.
    • Posts: 798 Member
      brower47 wrote: »
      Fun fact: When hippos are upset, their sweat turns red.

      Getting out of here with your controversial hear say!!!
    • Posts: 96 Member
      edited January 2017
      I have mixed emotions about this. The thing that started my weight loss was searching for elliptical machines last January, only to discover if I want one that will hold more than 250 lbs, I would need at least $500 more.

      I'm broke af and I enjoyed the OP's post :)
      I was really happy when I found MFP and then discovering that it really is free instead of another money trap made me ecstatic.

      I did spend $20 on a stability ball, $11 on a food scale, and spent $5 on weights I found at a yard sale, but it's good to know other people are successful without dropping lots of $$$
    • Posts: 543 Member
      Savagedistraction wrote: »
      Not one person has ever lost weight because they bought a fit bit, expensive workout clothes or trendy exercise equipment. If you need to lose weight, the only thing that works is to eat less and move more. The toys and expensive outfits..unnecessary. I'm sure this may be obvious to most..but it seems a reminder is in order. Weight loss does t have to cost you any money. Don't be a sheep. The diet industry is invested in convincing you that their crap is necessary in order for you to succeed. Nope. Move your *kitten* and eat less. That is all you need.

      Unnecessary? Yes. But my money my choices.
    • Posts: 13,454 Member
      OP if you had focused your original post on supplements or fad diets and stated that these things were unnecessary for weight loss, and that the simple solution of eat less, move more is what more people should be focusing on rather than spending money chasing a quick fix peddles to them by the billion dollar weight loss industry... you would have gotten totally different responses.

      Rather, you chose examples of tools and apparel which, while not necessary, are things that countless people do use with great success, even as basic motivation to do just what you said: eat less and move more. Then you doubled down on your derogatory condescending opinions by lambasting a young obese individual for whom it seems you have at least some health care association with which makes it even more offensive, if not an ethical violation. How many people just like the man you are so disgusted by, do you think started out the same way, found one little spark that they nurtured and fed until it grew into a great fiery passion for health and nutrition and self sustaining success? We see stories like this all the time, where one little thing motivates someone to change their life, lose weight once and for all, and then go on to try to motivate others and help them succeed.

      Even your story about your own mother, you don't think there was an aha moment for her? It was a different time and it may not have been a FitBit but it might have been a Jane Fonda video or a special dress she wanted to wear, or maybe she just wanted to set a positive, inspiring example for her daughter. If in fact that was the case, it's a shame that didn't get passed down.
    • Posts: 2,081 Member
      edited January 2017
      WinoGelato wrote: »
      OP if you had focused your original post on supplements or fad diets and stated that these things were unnecessary for weight loss, and that the simple solution of eat less, move more is what more people should be focusing on rather than spending money chasing a quick fix peddles to them by the billion dollar weight loss industry... you would have gotten totally different responses.

      Rather, you chose examples of tools and apparel which, while not necessary, are things that countless people do use with great success, even as basic motivation to do just what you said: eat less and move more. Then you doubled down on your derogatory condescending opinions by lambasting a young obese individual for whom it seems you have at least some health care association with which makes it even more offensive, if not an ethical violation. How many people just like the man you are so disgusted by, do you think started out the same way, found one little spark that they nurtured and fed until it grew into a great fiery passion for health and nutrition and self sustaining success? We see stories like this all the time, where one little thing motivates someone to change their life, lose weight once and for all, and then go on to try to motivate others and help them succeed.

      Even your story about your own mother, you don't think there was an aha moment for her? It was a different time and it may not have been a FitBit but it might have been a Jane Fonda video or a special dress she wanted to wear, or maybe she just wanted to set a positive, inspiring example for her daughter. If in fact that was the case, it's a shame that didn't get passed down.

      I am not 100 percent getting some of this animosity from many (not just you). A good part of the initial post went right along with most many here believe. No, you don't have to completely change your diet to lose weight. You don't need a special grocery list; just eat less. No, you don't need to exercise to lose weight. No, you don't need a Fitbit or a gym. Isn't this what OP is saying?

      I think the "don't be a sheep" comment did not go over well, and I understand that. But I don't understand the reversal on some of the key issues here.

      ETA:. I also know things went downhill after the initial post. That often happens. I'm surprised by the reaction to the first post.
    • Posts: 12,942 Member
      GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
      Fun Fact:

      A lot of people buy Fitbits to track activity they're already getting and give them data because they're geeky that way.

      OP may not know this.

      I love being a geek!
    • Posts: 10 Member
      edited January 2017
      Looking at the science side of it all, she is absolutely right. Calories in less then calories burnt your guaranteed to loose weight. You don't need anything she listed to do so and the industry is defitinly designed to make you think you need trash to succeed. It's funny because your like I totally need nice clothes to work out in the gym with my fit bit on after drinking a pre workout and getting ready for my post workout so I can go home and pop some other supplements... You could get a better workout naked in your backyard hammering a tire or throwing a rock.... It's all about motivation and if your motivation is to look good in the spandex cloths you buy right on. If a fit bit helps you stay on track cool. But the girl defitinly hit the nail on the head stating you don't need the extras... Although they can help create motivation for you which is the important part.
    • Posts: 8,578 Member
      K3rB3ar89 wrote: »
      Ugh dont even start! It was more a finger of speech then literal.. yall are too serious! Lol..

      This typo made me laugh way harder than it should have! :p

      This is the only finger of speech that's universally recognized:
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      o:)
    • Posts: 8,578 Member
      SLLRunner wrote: »
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      I love being a geek!

      I love being a fit geek! :)
    • Posts: 13,454 Member
      nutmegoreo wrote: »
      Fun Fact: burying a good point in a pile of condescension will mute the point pretty quickly.

      TIL: If I chose to spend some discretionary money on fitness equipment last year, but have a lower income this year, I'm a sheep.

      First point - spot on. I think someone else mentioned "know your audience" is a cricitical point as well. The people responding here are largely very successful, motivated people who fully understand it is "eat less and move more" that is responsible for our success, not gym clothes or gadgets. But the animosity and condescension toward people who do like spending some of their own money on things like new clothes or new equipment is wholly unwarranted and frankly surprising .
    • Posts: 15,267 Member
      WinoGelato wrote: »
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      That was exactly my point. If the initial post had been focused more on the woo, bro science, or supplement angle the responses would have been very different, there would have been a lot of agreement. I think the particular focus on activity trackers, something that many of us do use and have found to be helpful tools for motivation, is what initially caused some to bristle. Then the derogatory comments calling people "sheep" is what put the initial post over the edge. From there it turned quite negative when the discussion turned toward harsh specific examples of morbidly obese individuals who play with their FitBit rather than just getting up and moving... and then later insulting posters who have responded by calling people special snowflakes, which is a strange insult and seems out of context.

      exactly...it wasn't until about page 4 that she got to the supplements...

      a lot of us here agree you don't need anything to lose weight just less food...you don't even have to move more...but it helps.

      we are know and agree the "diet" industry is a big ole pile of crap....
      The fitness industry eh....gyms and fitness equipment when bought and used help aid in weight loss a lot of the time but mostly in getting fit and healthy.

      all good stuff...

      OP needed to know her audience better and not be a right fighter...
    • Posts: 15,267 Member
      Savagedistraction wrote: »
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      You can get a black belt in 2 years in TKD?

      hmmm...my son is going for his blue this spring...2 years into BJJ...
      Karate is a 10 year endeavour as well...interesting.
    • Posts: 278 Member
      Wow love a good thread, but the OP is true, CI/CO is what matters, but toy are fantastic way to keep me motivated. My fitbit, scales, mfp, spreadsheets, myvirtualmission, forums, all keep my interest and hopefully keep me going at this long enough for good habbits to form and become second nature...

      Oops got to go, my fitbit is telling me I need to move around more
    • Posts: 13,575 Member
      hookandy wrote: »
      Wow love a good thread, but the OP is true, CI/CO is what matters, but toy are fantastic way to keep me motivated. My fitbit, scales, mfp, spreadsheets, myvirtualmission, forums, all keep my interest and hopefully keep me going at this long enough for good habbits to form and become second nature...

      Oops got to go, my fitbit is telling me I need to move around more

      The OP didn't say CI/CO is what matters. She said we must eat less and move more to lose weight.
    • Posts: 13,454 Member
      hookandy wrote: »
      Wow love a good thread, but the OP is true, CI/CO is what matters, but toy are fantastic way to keep me motivated. My fitbit, scales, mfp, spreadsheets, myvirtualmission, forums, all keep my interest and hopefully keep me going at this long enough for good habbits to form and become second nature...

      Oops got to go, my fitbit is telling me I need to move around more

      Most of the people here whole heartedly agree with that.

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