Why is my weight loss unsuccessful
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »
recommended serving sizes are often never right
Look at this photo, the package says "1 muffin" but the gram weight is 20g LOWER then what the muffin actually weighs, making the calories in that muffin much higher then what is listed on the package.
That photo also shows the plastic package touching the weighing plate, which can easily be the additional 20 grams. I'm just saying.
My morning Ole Xtreme Wellness tortilla is supposed to be 45 grams, but rarely is. Today it was 43 grams.3 -
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If I can put in my 2¢ for a second.
Here we have a woman, short, obese.
Changing multiple things at once including nutrition and exercise.
Expecting immediate results.
I get that.
It's not about weighing food.
It's not about how many hours of cardio.
The issue is shes put herself in this situation over the course of however long and expecting immediate results.
If it was me I'd do the following:
Walk 10k steps a day.
Resistance train 2-3x a week.
Improve sleep quality.
Take multivitamin and omega 3 supplement daily.
Don't run or jog because it's murder on your joints.
Calculate your goal weight using a reliable calculator like Fat 2 Fit and see what you'd need calorie wise to maintain that weight.
Begin working towards that calorie goal.
In my experience this is what works over the long run.
Changing 1 habit at a time gives you 80%+/- success. Changing 2 habits at at time 30%+/-.
3 at a time appx 8%+/-.
TL/DR version
Eat at maintenance for goal weight
Walk, don't run
Improve sleep and overall stress
Eat smart but in moderation8 -
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Can somebody tell tell me the difference in calories between 3 oz. of raw chicken breast vs. 3 oz. of cooked chicken breast. I have always followed the rule that 1oz of cooked chicken breast = 30 calories. Is this correct?0
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erichoush455 wrote: »Can somebody tell tell me the difference in calories between 3 oz. of raw chicken breast vs. 3 oz. of cooked chicken breast. I have always followed the rule that 1oz of cooked chicken breast = 30 calories. Is this correct?
The exact difference will vary depending on how much moisture is lost during cooking. Since the difference in weight is due to water leaving the chicken, the same weight of cooked meat is generally going to have more calories than the same calorie of raw meat.0 -
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
Is the accurate, the only comprehensive and accurate database available.
If you have frozen chicken and intend to cook it, search that database for "chicken, raw".
You'll get a lot of choices. The one I use is
05039, Chicken, broilers or fryers, light meat, meat only, raw
I copy that from the USDA web site and paste it into the MFP food diary. I even sometimes double-check the mfp nutrition to see that it exactly matches the USDA site.
A neat feature of the USDA site is that you can change the serving size. If you weigh your breast and it's 251 grams, you can change the USDA serving size from 100 to 251 and all the values change to reflect the nutrition in the serving.
I keep tabs open on my browser for the USDA database and for convertunits.com, which is always useful.
This is exactly what how I get my entries ^.
I don't feel that it matter much if I am using an entry for raw or cooked, as long as that matches the state of the food I am weighing, and the entry matches the USDA database.0 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
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I keep tabs open on my browser for the USDA database and for convertunits.com, which is always useful.
Side note - you can enter in google and bing search bars something like ' 3.25 oz = g ' or ' 32 F = C ' and you will get the converted result. Easy Peasy.
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sadeelisha86 wrote: »Hi OP
I'm in the same boat. I started earing clean and doing daily hiit sessions 4 weeks ago. After 2 weeks, I'd lost 5lb , which I was pleased with. 3rd week I stayed the same, and today I weighed of see I've gained 3lb.
I'm trying not to let it faze me. As someone said, unless there's something medically wrong , this won't continue, and the fat will start dropping off soon.
That being said, I'm giving it another 2 weeks amd if I still haven't lost anything (I have 48lb I want to lose, and I'm 5ft 1), then I'm going to sign up to the body coach. I've been following his hiit workouts on YouTube and Facebook but his actual plan tells you what to eat and when, specifically to you. Have a look at the transformations on his website, they're incredible (but realistic)
Stick at it !
I love this quote -
"Don't put off doing something because of the time it will take. The time will pass anyway."
Xx
Where are you in your menstrual cycle? I gain at ovulation and right before my TOM. Because of this (and because Lyle McDonald said to) I compare myself to last month, not last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6846ZTBu08k&index=4&list=PLUXvX9BaxgqG9yO5XWB3gA_QshvrrcjVr 2 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »prattiger65 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »prattiger65 wrote: »Two weeks isn't long enough to know. The only way to be sure it to weigh it, whatever "it" is. If you are logging everything, using the package sizes is close enough, you might be off some calories, but it wont be enough to stall you if you are doing everything else right. Lastly, OP I think I am seeing a little defensiveness in your responses, I haven't seen anything that would warrant that. If you want to succeed, be open to the possibility that you may be doing something wrong. My advice is to keep doing what you are doing for about 6-8 weeks and then reevaluate.
While her deficit might be a nice cushion now on the package errors, being aware of them and getting into the habit now is probably a good idea. Just like the picture i posted, the muffin says 1 muffin is 130 calories, however at a 77g weight, the muffin is 175 calories. And if all she ate that day was a muffin, 45 calories might not seem like a big deal.. but we also know she was logging her chicken wrong by 102 calories. sometimes she would eat that twice in the same day.. calories add up, small errors can make bigger errors bigger.. its important to know things now so that when her deficit is smaller and shes only got 250 calories between losing and maintenance that shes not eating her deficit.
That muffin is just as likely to be less as more. I mostly agree with you that as the deficit gets smaller the logging must be tighter, however, that is something everyone learns over time. OP is concerned as to why the scale isn't moving NOW, not sometime later as the deficit gets smaller. I like the idea of keeping it pretty simple in the beginning, but I don't disagree with you on the whole. I am more concerned with OP being defensive.
I think defensiveness is normal.. i used to feel that way too when i started on MFP 500 times before finally losing the weight lol
I think a lot of it comes from misinformation from people losing weight close to her.
Like.. she says in her first post that shes seen people do this diet with success, maybe they told her a lot of stuff that really isn't true.. kind of like the starvation mode comment or people telling others that the key to success is paleo, clean eating or keto or fasting etc.. or media telling people things.. I have a girl i work with who body builds for competitions who strongly believes in starvation mode in the same way as the girl above posted. But try and explain that to her now when shes already convinced and she gets defensive too.. she doesn't want to talk about it, she doesnt even want to hear it, people on her body building forum are having success so clearly they must know something, right? lol
All we can do as a group is give information now.. maybe she will take it in... good tips were that two weeks is definitely too soon to tell anything, that she was eating far too little and shes risking her health and that logging errors can happen with packaging and measuring cups.. she may not apply that stuff now.. maybe she will just keep doing what shes doing, weight will drop, etc and maybe she will get to that point of small deficit.. when a stall happens again, if she comes asking for explanations, when people give her these replies again, she might go "Oh yeah! i was told that a long time ago" and maybe the truth behind it will stick more and she will decide to put these practices into play.. maybe they will finally push out the misinformation thats hanging around in her mind.
Its always worrisome that people might get frustrated and quit, i worry about that too.. too much information overload, for sure.. If i had a better memory of my past experiences here on MFP during the 500 times i started and quit, It would be interesting to remember if the tips i got back then were the ones im actually using now with success..
I hate to copy a whole post like this, but I want to say that I agree with ALL of this!0 -
Dan_Rollins_ACE_PN wrote: »If I can put in my 2¢ for a second.
Here we have a woman, short, obese.
Changing multiple things at once including nutrition and exercise.
Expecting immediate results.
I get that.
It's not about weighing food.
It's not about how many hours of cardio.
The issue is shes put herself in this situation over the course of however long and expecting immediate results.
If it was me I'd do the following:
Walk 10k steps a day.
Resistance train 2-3x a week.
Improve sleep quality.
Take multivitamin and omega 3 supplement daily.
Don't run or jog because it's murder on your joints.
Calculate your goal weight using a reliable calculator like Fat 2 Fit and see what you'd need calorie wise to maintain that weight.
Begin working towards that calorie goal.
In my experience this is what works over the long run.
Changing 1 habit at a time gives you 80%+/- success. Changing 2 habits at at time 30%+/-.
3 at a time appx 8%+/-.
TL/DR version
Eat at maintenance for goal weight
Walk, don't run
Improve sleep and overall stress
Eat smart but in moderation
Belaboring this...
Except for the eating maintenance for my goal weight, this is exactly how I went about things...baby steps and working on one thing at a time and letting my nutrition and fitness habits evolve.6 -
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OP - you've received some great advice on tracking and logging.
Understand that you're in a marathon, not a sprint and that you are on a path identifying those root causes that led to obesity. Take baby steps and realize that weight loss is not linear. My weight fluctuates ~5lbs/day just from water variation.
Start setting goals and only take on 1-2 at a time. Make these small, meaningful, and achievable. Hit those goals, celebrate and set new loftier goals.2 -
You've gotten some great advice from people far more knowledgable than I... But I do want to offer some words of encouragement. You're off to a great start, using a tool like MFP and getting serious about eating and fitness. Everyone is different and loses weight at different rates, so try not to compare yourself to other people. Also keep in mind, if you're exercising much more than usual, you're building muscle which weighs more than fat. The number on the scale might not change much, but that doesn't mean your body isn't changing. Try using a tape measure around your waist, hips, thighs, etc to get a better sense of your progress; that's a more effective way to determine fat loss.
Keep at it and try to be patient, as tough as that can be. If you're accurately logging food and exercising consistently, you should start to see results soon. If you still don't after another couple of weeks, it could be a medical problem. I was having trouble losing weight a while back, and a blood test revealed I have hypothyroidism (which I believe is not uncommon). I wouldn't jump to any conclusions yet, but keep that in mind if you're still struggling after a month or so.0 -
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chynaloveee1 wrote: »@misskarne those are the "recommended serving size. So if it says 16 crackers for 160 cals, then I'll count out 16 crackers, lol 1pkg is the packet my protein powder comes in (one packet per use) and the granola bars come 2 in a pack "2 bar"
Instead of going by the serving number (which is just an estimate), go by the weight listed next to the serving size. It should be there right next to the "12 crackers" or "1 slice". You'll see, by weighing everything (yes everything) that you eat, the numbers will he far mire accurate.
Weigh foods raw (meat, pasta, rice) as generally the nutrition information on the packaging is for raw.
Also, you've only been going for 2 weeks, just started exercise and are on your period. You need to give weight loss more than 2 weeks. You are retaining from your hormones as well as the exercise. Give changes at least 3 weeks.
Also? No need to "eat clean" for weight loss. Weight loss is all about eating less calories than you need to maintain your current weight (aka, eating less than your TDEE or total daily energy expenditure).
Why are you eating so little? At your height weight and age, you can lose weight eating more than 1200. You shouldn't aim to lose more than 2lbs per week.
Don't "spoon dry items" into cups. Cups and spoons are for liquids. For work lunches, prepare them at home or weigh your food at work.3 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »lemonychild wrote: »At her weight, even with the inaccuracies she will see weight loss. She's eating too little anyway for her weight and exercise regimen:
Eating too little is not going to cause her to NOT lose, though.
I never said it would, you did0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »prattiger65 wrote: »Two weeks isn't long enough to know. The only way to be sure it to weigh it, whatever "it" is. If you are logging everything, using the package sizes is close enough, you might be off some calories, but it wont be enough to stall you if you are doing everything else right. Lastly, OP I think I am seeing a little defensiveness in your responses, I haven't seen anything that would warrant that. If you want to succeed, be open to the possibility that you may be doing something wrong. My advice is to keep doing what you are doing for about 6-8 weeks and then reevaluate.
While her deficit might be a nice cushion now on the package errors, being aware of them and getting into the habit now is probably a good idea. Just like the picture i posted, the muffin says 1 muffin is 130 calories, however at a 77g weight, the muffin is 175 calories. And if all she ate that day was a muffin, 45 calories might not seem like a big deal.. but we also know she was logging her chicken wrong by 102 calories. sometimes she would eat that twice in the same day.. calories add up, small errors can make bigger errors bigger.. its important to know things now so that when her deficit is smaller and shes only got 250 calories between losing and maintenance that shes not eating her deficit.
your type of logging would cause me to quit yesterday. trust you me, NOONE is gaining 80 lbs on 250 cals over0 -
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lemonychild wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »prattiger65 wrote: »Two weeks isn't long enough to know. The only way to be sure it to weigh it, whatever "it" is. If you are logging everything, using the package sizes is close enough, you might be off some calories, but it wont be enough to stall you if you are doing everything else right. Lastly, OP I think I am seeing a little defensiveness in your responses, I haven't seen anything that would warrant that. If you want to succeed, be open to the possibility that you may be doing something wrong. My advice is to keep doing what you are doing for about 6-8 weeks and then reevaluate.
While her deficit might be a nice cushion now on the package errors, being aware of them and getting into the habit now is probably a good idea. Just like the picture i posted, the muffin says 1 muffin is 130 calories, however at a 77g weight, the muffin is 175 calories. And if all she ate that day was a muffin, 45 calories might not seem like a big deal.. but we also know she was logging her chicken wrong by 102 calories. sometimes she would eat that twice in the same day.. calories add up, small errors can make bigger errors bigger.. its important to know things now so that when her deficit is smaller and shes only got 250 calories between losing and maintenance that shes not eating her deficit.
your type of logging would cause me to quit yesterday. trust you me, NOONE is gaining 80 lbs on 250 cals over
This mentality one of the contributing causes of the obesity epidemic. You don't need to binge eat to become obese, it is nothing more than a consistent surplus of caloric intake:
250 kcals x 7 days = 1750 surplus kcals/week
1750 kcals/week x 160 weeks = 80 lbs.25 -
cerise_noir wrote: »chynaloveee1 wrote: »@misskarne those are the "recommended serving size. So if it says 16 crackers for 160 cals, then I'll count out 16 crackers, lol 1pkg is the packet my protein powder comes in (one packet per use) and the granola bars come 2 in a pack "2 bar"
Instead of going by the serving number (which is just an estimate), go by the weight listed next to the serving size. It should be there right next to the "12 crackers" or "1 slice". You'll see, by weighing everything (yes everything) that you eat, the numbers will he far mire accurate.
Weigh foods raw (meat, pasta, rice) as generally the nutrition information on the packaging is for raw.
Also, you've only been going for 2 weeks, just started exercise and are on your period. You need to give weight loss more than 2 weeks. You are retaining from your hormones as well as the exercise. Give changes at least 3 weeks.
Also? No need to "eat clean" for weight loss. Weight loss is all about eating less calories than you need to maintain your current weight (aka, eating less than your TDEE or total daily energy expenditure).
Why are you eating so little? At your height weight and age, you can lose weight eating more than 1200. You shouldn't aim to lose more than 2lbs per week.
Don't "spoon dry items" into cups. Cups and spoons are for liquids. For work lunches, prepare them at home or weigh your food at work.
Definitely this.
Give it more time. And in that time, work on your logging accuracy.0 -
Wow, poor thing is probably more confused than ever now.9
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Hi! I started with essentially the same stats as you, 5'1" tall 259lbs. The only thing I did was calculate my TDEE and start from there to lose 1lb per week. That's it 1 pound per week. I think when I started my TDEE was around 1700 calories that I could eat per day. I lost 6 pounds the first week. I didn't change what I ate too much, just how much of it I ate. I only started recently to exercise and that has been just walking. It seems to me you are biting off a big piece. I used to do it too. This time I have lost 33lbs so far. Its taken since last July of 2016 but its coming off, its just gonna take a while. I encourage you to start just as slow. In the beginning you won't have the satisfaction of fast results like you would with stricter dieting but it adds up and best of all its sustainable. The time will fly by and you will still be able to eat your yummy food and treats and as you lose weight and gain confidence you will tweak your diet and exercise and be able to lose even more. I hope you find what you are looking for and wish you all the best.1
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lemonychild wrote: »I never said it would, you did
You stated....She's eating too little anyway for her weight and exercise regimen
I commented...Eating too little is not going to cause her to NOT lose, though.
Project much?1 -
People probably shouldn't use this thread to bicker and nitpick.9
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It's only been two weeks. Give it time! A lot of times I have no weight change for weeks and then lose it all at once. Be patient and consistent.3
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Debating can happen without ad hominem comments getting thrown in.4
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