Reverse Diet
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This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.1
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metalmeow1 wrote: »metalmeow1 wrote: »"Reverse" diet? That's normal, x3 squares a day. "Reverse diet" instinctually leads me to assume eating in excess/you're going for weight gain.
I've tried eating my largest meal for breakfast and smallest for dinner. For several months. I saw no difference in weight loss. FYI.
The folks here on MFP helped set my head straight. CICO; meal order is irrelevant *snip*.
Unnecessary steps removed.
Unnecessary? You don't have my body. If I eat just before bed, the food sticks to me like glue, I'm too full to sleep 8 straight hours, have to go to the bathroom breaking my sleep (ALWAYS) and/or have gas. Having dinner several hours before bed works for me, especially if on medications.
I weigh myself in the mornings, so dinner would not only screw up that accuracy, but it would make me too full for breakfast the next morning (which I like) and then after, some of us don't like working out stuffed (it makes us sick.)
What's unnecessary to you is essential to others. Some benefit from schedules and a straight 8 hours of sleep without pee breaks.
I am much different than you, if I don't eat atleast a snack before bed I wake up at 3 or 4 hungry and can't sleep until I eat.2 -
This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
Don't be put off.
First posts can some times be hard.
It is a public forum so sometime tone can be misinterpreted.
The majority of people were explaining what reverse dieting is. Some were explaining that meal timing is up to the individual and no way is the only way.
Give the way you proposed in your original post a try- if it gives you more success, bothe saitety wise and losing weight keep at it. If not try something else.
All one needs to lose weight is a calorie deficit. Weighting food with a scale can help with accuracy.
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Rebecca0224 wrote: »metalmeow1 wrote: »metalmeow1 wrote: »"Reverse" diet? That's normal, x3 squares a day. "Reverse diet" instinctually leads me to assume eating in excess/you're going for weight gain.
I've tried eating my largest meal for breakfast and smallest for dinner. For several months. I saw no difference in weight loss. FYI.
The folks here on MFP helped set my head straight. CICO; meal order is irrelevant *snip*.
Unnecessary steps removed.
Unnecessary? You don't have my body. If I eat just before bed, the food sticks to me like glue, I'm too full to sleep 8 straight hours, have to go to the bathroom breaking my sleep (ALWAYS) and/or have gas. Having dinner several hours before bed works for me, especially if on medications.
I weigh myself in the mornings, so dinner would not only screw up that accuracy, but it would make me too full for breakfast the next morning (which I like) and then after, some of us don't like working out stuffed (it makes us sick.)
What's unnecessary to you is essential to others. Some benefit from schedules and a straight 8 hours of sleep without pee breaks.
I am much different than you, if I don't eat atleast a snack before bed I wake up at 3 or 4 hungry and can't sleep until I eat.
My brother's like that too. He's a snacker.
...Then again he never eats dinner on time, the same time every night. Just an observation.0 -
This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
Mostly these forums / threads are great.
And sometimes a couple people do what they are doing in this thread.
Don't take it personally. It's obviously not about you; they're just doing what they do ...4 -
This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
You're not being ridiculed. I was genuinely confused by what you meant by saying "reverse diet" as were many others. I offered my advice in saying that yes, it turns out I did try it, and no, it didn't help me.
Stick around, most of the time it's pleasant around here
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So basically what I am reading is, it doesnt really matter what time of day you eat. All that matters is your calorie deficit. And you should lose weight? Granted you are eating the proper foods and not junk. Maybe it would be easier if someone would send me a message and explain it to me, if thats not correct. And in exercising you have to burn more calories than you consume, right?6
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This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
MFP's forum participants are a large, diverse group of people who have varied backgrounds/histories/education/goals etc. I've been a part of numerous forums, and hands down the group of people that hang out on MFP are the most solid bunch that I've interacted with, and I learn new things here all the time. Also, MFP has a large group of successful maintainers, which is an incredibly valuable resource.
Along with that though, there will be lots of bunny trails, opinions, disagreements, mis-reading tone, strong feelings about certain topics etc that also happen. It's just part of the experience and the good definitely outweighs any negatives
OP I hope you stick around and continue to read through the threads/participate!1 -
Dont forget us Aussies Kriss, it's 10am Monday morning here. It gets awfully lonesome on the forums on Oz time :sad:2
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So basically what I am reading is, it doesnt really matter what time of day you eat. All that matters is your calorie deficit. And you should lose weight? Granted you are eating the proper foods and not junk. Maybe it would be easier if someone would send me a message and explain it to me, if thats not correct. And in exercising you have to burn more calories than you consume, right?
Weight loss is a fairly straightforward process-the only thing that needs to happen is that you're at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals. Meal timing and meal frequency don't matter. What kinds of foods you eat don't matter either. The only thing that matters is that calorie deficit
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It doesn't matter what time of day you eat for weight loss. Experiment to find what is most comfortable for you personally for satiety and comfort.So basically what I am reading is, it doesnt really matter what time of day you eat. All that matters is your calorie deficit. And you should lose weight? Granted you are eating the proper foods and not junk. Maybe it would be easier if someone would send me a message and explain it to me, if thats not correct. And in exercising you have to burn more calories than you consume, right?
I aim for 80% of my calories from nutrient-dense foods and 20% treats. That lets me still eat all of my favorite things in moderation.
Exercise is great but you can lose weight even without exercise. Your body burns calories just by breathing and moving. You need to eat less than your body uses overall and exercise is only a part of that.4 -
Thank you. This is all new to me. I thought I had to be on a special diet, exercise plan, diet pills, ect. to boost my metabolism to lose weight. Lol.
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »@brittaut
You are pretty much right, but you can eat junk.
I lost 117 pounds and i did it while still eating cake, cookies, ice cream, mcdonalds, Etc, you just have to plan ahead and make it work into your calories.
If you are a social butterfly type and you find you go out with friends regularly.
you can also do a weekly goal.
So it would be your calories that MFP gives you to eat x 7.
since my calories per day are 2000 i would x 7 that number and get 14,000 calories per week... and then if i had a girls night i could eat MORE then 2000 calories as long as by the end of my 7 days i was still under 14,000 calories. make sense?
So i could do
Monday - 1837 calories
Tuesday - 1837 kcal
Wednesday - 3500 - Friends night
Thursday - 1625 kcal
friday - 1625kcal
Saturday - 1675 kcal
Sunday - 1901 kcal
= 14,000
Yes, that makes sense! I had no clue it worked that way. Haha.2 -
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So basically what I am reading is, it doesnt really matter what time of day you eat. All that matters is your calorie deficit. And you should lose weight? Granted you are eating the proper foods and not junk. Maybe it would be easier if someone would send me a message and explain it to me, if thats not correct. And in exercising you have to burn more calories than you consume, right?
Actually you're almost there... but not quite.
To lose weight, ALL that matters is that you create a calorie deficit.
PERIOD.
FULL STOP.
Then the fun starts.
Because it is a simple concept: "create a calorie deficit".
But it is hard to implement.
In an appropriate manner so as to both succeed and minimize undesired side effects.
And the debate starts on how to "best" achieve all that!
Note that the concepts of "calorie deficit" and "losing weight" do not address the concepts of "quality of nutrition" and of "meeting one's nutritional needs".
So yes. Create a deficit = lose weight. Whether you eat "junk" or "proper" food. Whether you eat at midnight or at 7am. Whether you eat once, or 50 times in a day.
But some people can't go to bed on a full stomach, and other people can't go to bed on an empty stomach.
Regardless, they will all lose weight if at the end of the day/week/month/year they truly spend more calories than they absorb.6 -
Thank you. This is all new to me. I thought I had to be on a special diet, exercise plan, diet pills, ect. to boost my metabolism to lose weight. Lol.
I think many of us thought the same at one time or another. Losing weight doesn't mean suffering or starving or spending hours everyday at the gym.
It's simply calories in V calories out.
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So basically what I am reading is, it doesnt really matter what time of day you eat. All that matters is your calorie deficit. And you should lose weight? Granted you are eating the proper foods and not junk. Maybe it would be easier if someone would send me a message and explain it to me, if thats not correct. And in exercising you have to burn more calories than you consume, right?
You can eat junk too. I have candy, chips, pizza, donuts etc. and I still lose weight. I just watch my caloric deficit. When I add strength training I'll add more protein, but I'll still eat my ice cream
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To be more precise, I lost 100lbs in 6 months. I drank a lot of water and didn't drive or use the bus, I just biked everywhere. And kept a schedule.0 -
So what are factors that involve people gaining weight and being overweight or obese? Not enough exercise for their calorie intake? Now I have many questions, lol.0
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So what are factors that involve people gaining weight and being overweight or obese? Not enough exercise for their calorie intake? Now I have many questions, lol.
So many different things can come into play for weight gain, and it really will vary between people. For me personally-it was just not understanding how calories actually worked-more specifically what those words 'serving size' actually meant Once I figured that out though, losing the extra 50lbs was a fairly easy process. 0 -
I'm a grazer. I ate restaurant food once or twice per day and snacked when I was bored without keeping track. I don't exercise.So what are factors that involve people gaining weight and being overweight or obese? Not enough exercise for their calorie intake? Now I have many questions, lol.
It just takes a couple hundred extra calories per day to slowly gain weight and that can add up over the years.
I've lost about 130 pounds over the last 2 years by reducing my calorie intake. I eat Lean Cuisine and steam-in-bag veggies rather than restaurant meals and drink tea when I'm bored. I keep track of everything that goes into my mouth. I still don't exercise in any organized way but I try to move around more.
A good place to start is to log your current way of eating. You can then look back through and see where you might trim some calories by eating smaller portions of calorie-dense foods and/or making satisfying substitutions.2
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