No meat to lose weight?
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »At the risk of catching all kinds of hell, I like raisins in cookies.
Me too! What's an Oatmeal Raisin cookie without raisins?!2 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park!
I never thought about overcooking the bones like that. I usually de-bone first so he can have it or toss them. I will look into this!2 -
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For those interested!
Here's an example:
It's like a bone treat you would buy at the pet store (except even a little softer.) Notice the marrow.
It isn't sharp at all. I easily crumbled it with my fingertips.
Bone is in almost all dog foods.4 -
Eat anything you desire just eat at deficit. If that means forgoing food that makes you overeat then so be it. Don't be racist to meat.1
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SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »For those interested!
Here's an example:
It's like a bone treat you would buy at the pet store (except even a little softer.) Notice the marrow.
It isn't sharp at all. I easily crumbled it with my fingertips.
Bone is in almost all dog foods.
not going to argue. you feed yours your way and I will feed mine my way. that is all.0 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
They almost feel like jelly if cooked long enough2 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »There should of never been a oatmeal raisin cookie... Thats a Frankenstein cookie.. a mad scientist just sewing random parts together to make a body.. someone clearly was out of chocolate chips and was desperate.. and thats how that was made.. Sigh
No. They're nice AF. Take your time and eat one in a relaxed environment. You'll change your mind on em.1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »For those interested!
...It's like a bone treat you would buy at the pet store (except even a little softer.) Notice the marrow.
It isn't sharp at all. I easily crumbled it with my fingertips.
Bone is in almost all dog foods.
Does it work well with other bones besides chicken? I rarely eat poultry but end up with beef and pig bones often. I would think they are too big to boil soft?1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commented
This goes for hard bones. After bone broth is made, bone is soft/chewy so it won't splinter.. it may not be so nutritious for the dogs after most of the calcium has been boiled out, but still tasty to them, I guess. Better to grind them to a paste.
The reason why vets say no cooked bones is because of the splintering. Boiled down bones (done properly) shouldn't splinter at all. They're chewy, flexible. I'd worry if the bones were boiled with onions/garlic.
Many dog food is made with bone meal. I would feel gelled bone sparingly...if at all, due to not much nutrition.2 -
cerise_noir wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commented
This goes for hard bones. After bone broth is made, bone is soft/chewy so it won't splinter.. it may not be so nutritious for the dogs after most of the calcium has been boiled out, but still tasty to them, I guess.
vets say no to any cooked bones. Im going to follow that.Im not going to risk that there may be one that didnt cook down or that one may splinter.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commented
This goes for hard bones. After bone broth is made, bone is soft/chewy so it won't splinter.. it may not be so nutritious for the dogs after most of the calcium has been boiled out, but still tasty to them, I guess.
vets say no to any cooked bones. Im going to follow that.Im not going to risk that there may be one that didnt cook down or that one may splinter.
I'm a vet (in training for exotics) with not long to go. I have a standard vet degree already. I volunteer at a vet surgery.
I also make my own dog kibble and other pet foods. I've studied per nutrition for many years. Long before I even got my degree. Splintered bone is not safe. Bone meal is safe though. It all comes down to the owner being careful. There are stupid pet owners unfortunately.
And no one is forcing you to feed your dogs what you think is not safe.5 -
jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
You've got to be kidding. I have seen a lot of ridiculous claims about veganism before, but that it can cure AIDS? That's extremely offensive.
Recently nursed a man dying in if AIDS related PCP. Maybe we should have put him on a vegan diet and avoided the inevitable cardiac arrest.
I'll run it past the doctors for next time ...
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lol well as long as they don't have raisins...
a raisin shouldn't even be allowed in a cookie..
From Benny and Joon: "A raisin is a failed grape."
One of my all time favourite films . But it's humiliated grapes
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0027120/quotes
Shoot - thanks, my memory's playing tricks on me. Especially since I've had that particular line in my head for years and it's been wrong all this time0 -
Gianfranco_R wrote: »Raisins in cookies??? What is this hell you speak of
Well, it depends.
You may also find heaven, somewhere
https://food52.com/recipes/32236-buccellati-sicilian-christmas-fig-cookies
My Nonna is from Sicily and I have NEVER had these. (She's also the worlds best cook lol) my Nonno does, although, use grapes in his vino, probably a raisins snuck in at some point, and his vino is amazing1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park!
Seems like everyone else's "opinion" is more correct than yrs:-/ give yr girl a treat and a pat from me3
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