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  • skinnyfatty1983
    skinnyfatty1983 Posts: 41 Member
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    edited March 2017
    Wild caught, coho, raw (sockeye is usually marginally lower): https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4563?man=&lfacet=&count=&max=&qlookup=&offset=&sort=&format=Abridged&reportfmt=other&rptfrm=&ndbno=&nutrient1=&nutrient2=&nutrient3=&subset=&totCount=&measureby=&Qv=1&Q8576=1&Q8577=0.5&Qv=1&Q8576=3.0&Q8577=0.5

    41 calories per ounce. Sockeye is 47 per ounce.

    I mean, I can play this game just as well as anyone else (and I'm going to trust USDA far more than I ever would WalMart). But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that you can eat 6 ounces of salmon for 150 calories.

    I'm wondering how Walmart gets the calorie count that low, when it's certainly not in line with what I'm finding at USDA. But, I don't eat frozen fish, so maybe there's some other processing at play there.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    sd4Texas wrote: »
    @collectingblues the usda site you linked me to doesn't give calorie count. Is it suppose to? I put in this type of salmon on the usda site search box and this came up but no calorie count.https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4687?manu=&fgcd=&ds=

    Energy in kcal is the number you need. Bit technical but calories is not the same as Calories. There are 1000 calories in a Calorie. You are looking for Calories, or 1000 calories or kcal. Ignore everything I just said and use the kcal number as your calorie count.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    Wild caught salmon actually is about 25-28 calories per ounce raw. Wild caught is lean while farm raised is not. Depends on the source.

    Wild caught is much better for smoking. Tried smoking farmed and it is way too fatty. They are VERY different.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    I used the product label from the salmon I buy. Of course, the original poster would be responsible for using a good entry to match her product use.

    But if I'm eating pink wild caught salmon from Walmart, I have no reason to log it as sockeye, coho, etc. from elsewhere.
  • sd4Texas
    sd4Texas Posts: 12 Member
    @StaciMarie1974 so would that Walmart brand of salmon have a USDA number assigned to it that I can then enter into MFP? Thanks!
  • skinnyfatty1983
    skinnyfatty1983 Posts: 41 Member
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    Are you buying the Walmart brand?

    It might have a USDA listing, but if it's not the salmon *you* are eating, it doesn't matter. Log what you eat, not a best guess estimate of what other people say they eat.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    sd4Texas wrote: »
    @StaciMarie1974 so would that Walmart brand of salmon have a USDA number assigned to it that I can then enter into MFP? Thanks!

    I scan the label, and then adjust # of servings. Such as they don't actually weigh 4 ounces. 4.3, 4.6, etc. I edit serving size to match what I have.

    KEep in mind: there are errors in the database, true, because of user generated entries. But ultimately you know what you're eating. So if you believe you are using the correct entry, go with it.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    sd4Texas wrote: »
    @ladyreva78 what does TDEE mean?

    So, 3 abbreviations that get tossed around here.

    BMR - Basic metabolic rate. This is the calories you burn existing. Basically to keep your current weight in a coma.

    NEAT - Non-Exercise Activity thermogenesis. This is the calories you burn from normal daily activity. It varies by your normal activity level. It is calculated as your BMR times a factor (they vary by model). MFP uses 1.25 for sedentary. This number does not include exercise.

    TDEE - total daily energy expenditure. This is the calories burned including all activity and exercise.

    MFP (This place) uses NEAT. So it estimates your calorie burn on your size, age etc. and a factor for your activity level and then has you eat back your exercise calories. Some people like to estimate their calorie needs using TDEE and then not add back their calories from exercising.

    If you are consistent in your activities and exercising, the TDEE method makes sense as you can figure it out and eat the same amount every day regardless of what you do. If you are inconsistent, than (my opinion) the NEAT method works better but does mean you are eating different amounts every day based on your activity and exercise. For example, I hurt my back last week and am doing less than normal right now so I'm eating less. But once I'm back to running daily, I'll go back to eating 2000 calories and just have a variance every day, with my weekly average being pretty close to that to lose 2 lbs.
  • skinnyfatty1983
    skinnyfatty1983 Posts: 41 Member
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently
  • gamerbabe14
    gamerbabe14 Posts: 876 Member
    It's only been two weeks!
  • skinnyfatty1983
    skinnyfatty1983 Posts: 41 Member
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    Interesting. I don't have cheat meals either. So... mostly healthy foods with some indulgences, no attempt at clean eating, plenty of diet soda, and dropping 1-2 lbs a week. Doctor's pleased with my progress and my BP has dropped too.
  • skinnyfatty1983
    skinnyfatty1983 Posts: 41 Member
    edited March 2017
    pinuplove wrote: »
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works

    Sooo, which is it? Eat clean or else you're doomed, or eat dirty to speed up your metabolism? I'm confused. Guess I'll just keep eating whatever fits my goals and losing my 1 lb per week and be happy not hangry.
    eat clean 90% of the time and for example 2 weeks of clean eating and 1 cheat meal... both will help to lose weight
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works

    I feel like eating what I want within my calorie goals is how it's worked for me. I don't have to cheat.
  • pinuplove
    pinuplove Posts: 12,871 Member
    pinuplove wrote: »
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works

    Sooo, which is it? Eat clean or else you're doomed, or eat dirty to speed up your metabolism? I'm confused. Guess I'll just keep eating whatever fits my goals and losing my 1 lb per week and be happy not hangry.
    eat clean 90% of the time and for example 2 weeks of clean eating and 1 cheat meal... both will help to lose weight

    Sorry, I must have forgotten this...
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  • kpeterson539
    kpeterson539 Posts: 220 Member
    pinuplove wrote: »
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works

    Sooo, which is it? Eat clean or else you're doomed, or eat dirty to speed up your metabolism? I'm confused. Guess I'll just keep eating whatever fits my goals and losing my 1 lb per week and be happy not hangry.
    eat clean 90% of the time and for example 2 weeks of clean eating and 1 cheat meal... both will help to lose weight

    No. All you need to do is eat less calories than your body expends. CICO. That's all. Nothing more.

  • skinnyfatty1983
    skinnyfatty1983 Posts: 41 Member
    pinuplove wrote: »
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works

    Sooo, which is it? Eat clean or else you're doomed, or eat dirty to speed up your metabolism? I'm confused. Guess I'll just keep eating whatever fits my goals and losing my 1 lb per week and be happy not hangry.
    eat clean 90% of the time and for example 2 weeks of clean eating and 1 cheat meal... both will help to lose weight

    No. All you need to do is eat less calories than your body expends. CICO. That's all. Nothing more.

    no, if u eat less calories with dirty food, you only get a smaller fat version of the bigger size of yourself....
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    Actually, no. That's where exercise comes in.
  • kpeterson539
    kpeterson539 Posts: 220 Member
    pinuplove wrote: »
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
    ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results

    No.

    yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....

    Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.

    different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently

    Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.

    cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works

    Sooo, which is it? Eat clean or else you're doomed, or eat dirty to speed up your metabolism? I'm confused. Guess I'll just keep eating whatever fits my goals and losing my 1 lb per week and be happy not hangry.
    eat clean 90% of the time and for example 2 weeks of clean eating and 1 cheat meal... both will help to lose weight

    No. All you need to do is eat less calories than your body expends. CICO. That's all. Nothing more.

    no, if u eat less calories with dirty food, you only get a smaller fat version of the bigger size of yourself....

    No. One of the biggest problems is LABELING food as good/clean or bad/dirty. There is no such thing or, I should say, a decent definition of those labels. I have lost 60 pounds eating what I wanted, just not as MUCH as I wanted.

    I am not a special snowflake.