Clean eating- does it matter?
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nutmegoreo wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
Gummy Bears are . . . low fat.
Not the chubby ones.
This also made me break out in to loud laughter in my office! Haha2 -
TimothyFish wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »I used to enjoy garbage.
That's just gross. Were you homeless or something?janejellyroll wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
You used to eat garbage? And enjoyed it?
That is strange. I'm glad I haven't ever had to dig food out of a trash can. My sympathy to @thechaoswithinme for going through that...
George Costanza would argue that if it's on top, it's not really garbage. Maybe that's what we're talking about here . . .
Hahaha very funny guys. You know what I'm saying fast foods, chips Unhealthy food items. Hahahahaha0 -
Hahaha people are going off about me using the word garbage!!WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
You used to eat garbage? And enjoyed it?
That is strange. I'm glad I haven't ever had to dig food out of a trash can. My sympathy to @thechaoswithinme for going through that...
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thechaoswithinme wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »I used to enjoy garbage.
That's just gross. Were you homeless or something?janejellyroll wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
You used to eat garbage? And enjoyed it?
That is strange. I'm glad I haven't ever had to dig food out of a trash can. My sympathy to @thechaoswithinme for going through that...
George Costanza would argue that if it's on top, it's not really garbage. Maybe that's what we're talking about here . . .
Hahaha very funny guys. You know what I'm saying fast foods, chips Unhealthy food items. Hahahahaha
No, I don't think we know what you are saying. Why are those foods "garbage"?
Also, I've never understood this mindset of changing your eating habits so dramatically that foods you used to enjoy taste terrible now. Is that really something to aspire to? I actually strive to eat all the foods I enjoy, while reaching my goals.2 -
All I meant was foods that are overly processed.. it's not a big deal. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offended anyone.0
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thechaoswithinme wrote: »All I meant was foods that are overly processed.. it's not a big deal. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offended anyone.
I think the point trying to be made is that labeling foods "unhealthy" and "garbage" is very subjective. Processed foods are not inherently unhealthy and neither are fast foods for that matter. "Clean" and "unhealthy" are purely based on perspective4 -
thechaoswithinme wrote: »All I meant was foods that are overly processed.. it's not a big deal. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offended anyone.
Any food can be part of a healthy diet - that includes fast food, chips, and gummy bears. Although I hear the Haribo Sugar Free ones may be something to limit...6 -
WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »I used to enjoy garbage.
That's just gross. Were you homeless or something?janejellyroll wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
You used to eat garbage? And enjoyed it?
That is strange. I'm glad I haven't ever had to dig food out of a trash can. My sympathy to @thechaoswithinme for going through that...
George Costanza would argue that if it's on top, it's not really garbage. Maybe that's what we're talking about here . . .
Hahaha very funny guys. You know what I'm saying fast foods, chips Unhealthy food items. Hahahahaha
No, I don't think we know what you are saying. Why are those foods "garbage"?
Also, I've never understood this mindset of changing your eating habits so dramatically that foods you used to enjoy taste terrible now. Is that really something to aspire to? I actually strive to eat all the foods I enjoy, while reaching my goals.
I just think those foods don't fuel you. They have no nutritional value. I'm not telling what to eat. Do what you want it's your journey. I prefer to eat them in moderation.. if I find something I enjoy. My tastebuds did change. I don't enjoy the snack and certain food items. I used too. That's all. Everyone is different. It's your choice. Sorry it my wording offended you. Before I guess I could eat those foods in moderation. Now I can0 -
thechaoswithinme wrote: »All I meant was foods that are overly processed.. it's not a big deal. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offended anyone.
Except that several people in this thread, myself included, stated that we eat varying amounts of processed foods and you called the our food choices "garbage." What was your point in that if not to offend?3 -
WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »All I meant was foods that are overly processed.. it's not a big deal. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offended anyone.
Any food can be part of a healthy diet - that includes fast food, chips, and gummy bears. Although I hear the Haribo Sugar Free ones may be something to limit...
I have also heard and read those bears should be avoided at all costs for..."digestive health" reasons0 -
@WinoGelato I used to love those crispy muncho chips. Now they are to salty for me and have a weird after taste.. idk maybe I just associate those foods with feeling guilty after I ate them. I still working out all my kinks in my weight loss journey. I figuring out how to balance my eating habits. I'm not an expert or calm to be0
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thechaoswithinme wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »I used to enjoy garbage.
That's just gross. Were you homeless or something?janejellyroll wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
You used to eat garbage? And enjoyed it?
That is strange. I'm glad I haven't ever had to dig food out of a trash can. My sympathy to @thechaoswithinme for going through that...
George Costanza would argue that if it's on top, it's not really garbage. Maybe that's what we're talking about here . . .
Hahaha very funny guys. You know what I'm saying fast foods, chips Unhealthy food items. Hahahahaha
No, I don't think we know what you are saying. Why are those foods "garbage"?
Also, I've never understood this mindset of changing your eating habits so dramatically that foods you used to enjoy taste terrible now. Is that really something to aspire to? I actually strive to eat all the foods I enjoy, while reaching my goals.
I just think those foods don't fuel you. They have no nutritional value. I'm not telling what to eat. Do what you want it's your journey. I prefer to eat them in moderation.. if I find something I enjoy. My tastebuds did change. I don't enjoy the snack and certain food items. I used too. That's all. Everyone is different. It's your choice. Sorry it my wording offended you. Before I guess I could eat those foods in moderation. Now I can
The foods you described do fuel you and they do have nutritional value.
Eating foods we enjoy in moderation, as part of an overall balanced diet, is exactly what many people in this thread described that they do. Yet you are describing those foods as "garbage".
Did you read the entire thread?4 -
All foods have a nutritional value. Some just aren't as dense as others. If I needed some fast energy, would I eat a pop tart or a potato? I can tell you the pop tart would assimilate faster for energy. And wouldn't fill me up as much so I wouldn't barf it up if I had an intense workout.thechaoswithinme wrote: »
I just think those foods don't fuel you. They have no nutritional value.
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thechaoswithinme wrote: »@WinoGelato I used to love those crispy muncho chips. Now they are to salty for me and have a weird after taste.. idk maybe I just associate those foods with feeling guilty after I ate them. I still working out all my kinks in my weight loss journey. I figuring out how to balance my eating habits. I'm not an expert or calm to be
Feelings of guilt related to food, calling things "garbage", changing eating habits so dramatically that you don't enjoy things you used to enjoy... actually none of that sounds balanced or healthy.
It's great that you eat a healthful, balanced diet and that you've lost weight. Many of us have also been successful and strive for a healthful, balanced diet. The difference is, that eating some chips that you enjoy, shouldn't be something that you feel guilty about. They can be incorporated into an overall balanced, healthy diet - in moderation.
What you're describing is exactly why people took offense to the original post about Clean Eating - because it implies that anyone who still eats things like crispy muncho chips (whatever those are) is eating garbage.4 -
Mmm.... Pop Tarts.... (As long as they're not frosted. Can't stand those.)0
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Hahaha I think those are the ones that give ya massive case of poopsWinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »All I meant was foods that are overly processed.. it's not a big deal. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offended anyone.
Any food can be part of a healthy diet - that includes fast food, chips, and gummy bears. Although I hear the Haribo Sugar Free ones may be something to limit...
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Well I'm sorry. I'm new to interacting on here. I completely understand where you are coming from now. I need to learn these things myself. It sorta does sound horrible. It's sort of a long story and hard to explain my journey. But you do make some good points.WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »@WinoGelato I used to love those crispy muncho chips. Now they are to salty for me and have a weird after taste.. idk maybe I just associate those foods with feeling guilty after I ate them. I still working out all my kinks in my weight loss journey. I figuring out how to balance my eating habits. I'm not an expert or calm to be
Feelings of guilt related to food, calling things "garbage", changing eating habits so dramatically that you don't enjoy things you used to enjoy... actually none of that sounds balanced or healthy.
It's great that you eat a healthful, balanced diet and that you've lost weight. Many of us have also been successful and strive for a healthful, balanced diet. The difference is, that eating some chips that you enjoy, shouldn't be something that you feel guilty about. They can be incorporated into an overall balanced, healthy diet - in moderation.
What you're describing is exactly why people took offense to the original post about Clean Eating - because it implies that anyone who still eats things like crispy muncho chips (whatever those are) is eating garbage.
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This thread is fairly amazing.
And I mean that in a good way.2 -
I like sucking on Jolly Ranchers on long rides...good fuel, and they keep my mouth wet...1
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thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Well I'm sorry. I'm new to interacting on here. I completely understand where you are coming from now. I need to learn these things myself. It sorta does sound horrible. It's sort of a long story and hard to explain my journey. But you do make some good points.WinoGelato wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »@WinoGelato I used to love those crispy muncho chips. Now they are to salty for me and have a weird after taste.. idk maybe I just associate those foods with feeling guilty after I ate them. I still working out all my kinks in my weight loss journey. I figuring out how to balance my eating habits. I'm not an expert or calm to be
Feelings of guilt related to food, calling things "garbage", changing eating habits so dramatically that you don't enjoy things you used to enjoy... actually none of that sounds balanced or healthy.
It's great that you eat a healthful, balanced diet and that you've lost weight. Many of us have also been successful and strive for a healthful, balanced diet. The difference is, that eating some chips that you enjoy, shouldn't be something that you feel guilty about. They can be incorporated into an overall balanced, healthy diet - in moderation.
What you're describing is exactly why people took offense to the original post about Clean Eating - because it implies that anyone who still eats things like crispy muncho chips (whatever those are) is eating garbage.
You don't need to apologize, but I keep asking if you if you read the entire thread for a reason. The OP of this thread also had a similar revelation, and realized that the verbiage she was using, had some negative connotations, and that by opening her mind to what people were saying about balance and moderation - realized that her actual definition wasn't really that different than what other people were describing.
If you haven't, you really should read through the whole thread. There's a lot of good info in it. And MANY people struggle with that all or nothing mindset. However, that's what often keeps many people from finding long term success - because they are too restrictive, too self punishing, too quick to associate guilt with eating tasty foods. Understanding that it's possible to eat a primarily nutrient dense, healthful diet, and that eating an Oreo, or a serving of chips, doesn't invalidate all of your hard work or cancel out the nutrition you got from the other foods - is really important, in my opinion.5 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I like sucking on Jolly Ranchers on long rides...good fuel, and they keep my mouth wet...
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@WinoGelato See that's what I'm learning right now. I haven't read the whole thread yet. I can't eat whatever I like an maintain my weight but eating these foods in moderation. I wish I knew all this when I started I joined the community at the end of my journey. Now I'm slowing eating foods I sadly restricted.0
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@WinoGelato sadly I wish I had join so much sooner. It really would have helped me out so much.. I'm learning new thing everyday on here.3
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WinoGelato wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I like sucking on Jolly Ranchers on long rides...good fuel, and they keep my mouth wet...
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janejellyroll wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »thechaoswithinme wrote: »
Some people have different taste buds. I used to enjoy garbage. Or over processed foods. I went on a diet and eliminated all those food lost 125. I go back to treat myself to something I used to eat... nothing taste the same as it used to.. I used to love these food and over indulge. Now I try these food and it's somewhat gross to me. I would rather eat grapes than gummy bears.. it's the sugar and high fat and sodium. That make people go back for more. It like an explosion on the taste buds.cassandrarodriguez89 wrote: »Yes, it 100% matters, for instance, I eat healthy. I ate one cancer meal (taco bell) and broke out in sweat throwing up for hours. If I eat a slice of cake I get horrid acne. Actually, anything that has no good nutrition sends me into oblivion, I will get sick, depressed and acne. Not to mention I hate the taste of white bread, white rice and fried foods. The flavors are nasty, I don't understand why some people enjoy the taste, I honestly think they pretend to like it because they don't want to make effort in eating healthy. White bread tastes like paper... unless they have weird taste buds its a strange concept to me. I will say sugar is different though, it tastes AMAZING... and sometimes its worth the acne and migraine
Gummy Bears are . . . low fat.
Not the chubby ones.
It's the Gummiberry juice, it's impossible to drink that stuff in moderation.
Oh... is THAT the secret of Gummiberry juice?0 -
thechaoswithinme wrote: »@WinoGelato See that's what I'm learning right now. I haven't read the whole thread yet. I can't eat whatever I like an maintain my weight but eating these foods in moderation. I wish I knew all this when I started I joined the community at the end of my journey. Now I'm slowing eating foods I sadly restricted.
When I first began I was low carb, cause carbs made me fat *eyeroll* we mustn't beat ourselves up for ignorance... we all learned and changed things as we went no doubt. What people SHOULD be ashamed of is willful ignorance. I eat relatively clean (i think lol) but that's because I prefer volume and that's how I can make it work... I still on occasion have cookies and chocolate bars or other things that people hate on but it's not as often as I would like because like I said, I prefer volume.
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thechaoswithinme wrote: »I think clean eating in general is great for health!! And it totally helps with weight loss!! I'm a clean eater but I have to focus on increasing my protein in my diet!! When you eat a clean diet. It's crazy how much food you can consume!!! Congrats on eating healthy
OH does it now?cerise_noir wrote: »Did it matter? Not really. I was a "clean" vegetarian for 4-5 years and was at my highest weight ever. Now I'm more of a 60/40 person.
Heh. Helps with weight loss my *kitten*.1 -
I feel/look/perform best eating mostly nutritious foods, hitting a balance of macros with treats fit in as I please.
Me too...also 'treats' can be nutritious and super yummy at the same time. In fact, nutritious foods - when prepared well - taste WAY better than other things too!0 -
thechaoswithinme wrote: »@WinoGelato sadly I wish I had join so much sooner. It really would have helped me out so much.. I'm learning new thing everyday on here.
I think this is what you'll find to be the greatest value of the MFP forums. You realize just how much misinformation is out there. For example - gatorade markets a "sports bean" product, which is nothing but a jelly bean - no different than any other hard candy or jelly bean, but considered healthy...why?
Don't buy into the clean eating nonsense - your body is a remarkable chemistry set and wonderfully adept at breaking down foods to source molecules. Organic, clean, processed...all the same from a molecular perspective.1 -
When i decided to lose weight i ate "clean" and continue to do so. I never eat fast food and try to limit the amount of processed foods I eat. I'll still eat junk food, but it's seldom rather than daily.
I think this approach is better. I never crave fast food nor do I crave junk food. The less you eat it, the easier it is to avoid.0
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