Evil Dairy?
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ronjsteele1 wrote: »
Naturopathy is not science based medicine. There is also no national standard on what makes a naturopath, or what they are allowed to do state by state.
Good MDs and DOs follow science based medicine. Sometimes it's what you might consider "natural" sometimes it's what you might not consider natural. The difference is that it works. It's been studied and found to have the best outcomes. I know that when I go to a doctor they don't just prescribe meds or cut into me. There are other things they suggest like diet and specific exercises. It's a combination.
And let's not go into homeopathy. The idea that water can hold the memory of something it was exposed to and diluted millions of times and then turned into sugar pills?
(I wont see DOs not lisenced in the US or Canada. They do not have the same training in other countries. And for chiropractors, the ones that stick with Physical therapy are fine, but I choose to see physical therapists instead, but there is a large amount of chiropractors that push a lot of woo and quackery.)
Please point out where I made a comment against DOs in the US?
We are going to have to agree to disagree. This is an excellent website that compares the differences between MD's, ND's, and naturepaths. http://www.thenddc.com/know-naturopathic-doctors/ There IS a difference between an ND and a naturepath, although most people do not separate the two. It is not pseudoscience, but I really don't care what anyone else thinks and I'm not going to try to convince someone. There's plenty of evidence comparing the studies of MD's and ND's for someone to see the difference. I hate to burst your bubble but my ND in another state was (and had to be to practice) fully licensed by the state and licensed to write prescriptions as well. These guys have as much training as medical doctors do. I don't get why people think they don't (except maybe they are lumping ND's and naturepaths into one pot).
So the MD (as in medical doctor) that uses homeopathy in his practice is disregarded? How does one jive that with the fact that there are quite a lot of MD's that are also homeopaths in this world (both US and overseas)? It somehow makes them less of a doctor? People here wouldn't have done well with my MIL's oncologist that was trained in China as an oncologist but used only TCM with his patients. In most cases, natural practitioners use a combination of western diagnostic testing (we do plenty of lab work) with eastern forms of medicine. Where my MIL was treated for leukemia had an entire office where oncologists sent their patients for alternative therapies to compliment their western treatments. Do the doctors that do that believe it's "woo?" I highly doubt it or they would not have heavily pushed it in their office. Just because western medicine hasn't caught up with natural medicine does not mean it's "woo" (as evidenced by the number of hospitals and doctors offices that treat cancer patients now offering these services).
A DO HAS to be licensed in the US or they cannot practice as a DO. And yes, there are still DO's that practice manipulation (mine does). He also does not believe in pushing vaccinations (but he will do them for those that want them), he uses antibiotics only when absolutely necessary (I find they never are but whatever), and he generally leans heavily to the natural. He's also in an office with 8 other very traditional MD's. Apparently, they don't think he's too "woo."
I did not separate out the quotes above yours (too time consuming when in a hurry). I was responding to multiple posted quotes at once. My apologies for not taking the time to break them out and specifically answering each quote that I was addressing. I usually just by-pass these conversations for the sake of time and energy but having dealt with huge dairy issues for almost 20yrs, I have enough knowledge to say something about it and post. Ha! I should have followed my instincts. Posting is a time stealer....
NDs do get licensed... by an organisation that is apparently completely separate from the whole "actual doctor" stuff. There's also a whole 7 places in the entire US and Canada where you can do that.
And yes, a MD who does homeopathy is not trustworthy as they're doing something that is proven to not work and pretending or actually believing it helps. That's kindof a big deal.
And spare me that "Western medicine hasn't caught up with eastern medicine" crap.7 -
Dairy is the root of all evil. No wait, money is the root of all evil. That's it. Money.
Love of money is the root of all evil.
OP, maybe try it out? I'd never heard that dairy is bad before, but I don't think that going dairy-free would necessarily be harmful. Might be an interesting experiment.0 -
I'm just looking for some insight. I've heard many people say that a person should cut out dairy. If it is organic, high quality and consumed in moderation, what is the problem? Why is it branded as "evil" lol
That's silly. Cut out dairy if you have an allergy or intolerance to it. Otherwise, eat high quality, low quality or medium quality dairy, your choice.
No food is good or bad, it's just all food.0 -
We don't really NEED the lactation fluids from another species. There is lots of calcium in other foods. And it might not be as good for men and their prostates ( NIH 2014 published a study linking milk, red meat, and fat to the risk for prostate cancer). Having said that, I would be hard pressed to give up my plain fat free Greek yogurt. I love the stuff. There might be something to milk producing hormones given to cows, even though my dairy farm cousins tell me it is all natural. A lot of milk products contain added sugars and saturated fat and flavorings and hard to pronounce ingredients. I don't know. I'm sticking to my mostly Mediterranean Diet without drinking milk, and I'm getting a flatter belly, but I won't give up my yogurt unless a very compelling reason is found.0
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