For the future: "Help I stalled posts"..read this
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These two are pretty useful, and the first one is included in the stickied "must reads" threads that hopefully everyone is reading before they post.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10084670/it-is-unlikely-that-you-will-lose-weight-consistently-i-e-weight-loss-is-not-linear
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10196160/scale-stress-syndrome/p1
But the first post here promises these devices will bring peace of mind, and I don't see how. We've seen a ton of posts that start with some variation on "Help! My body fat % went up 2% this week and everything is terrible!!!!!" Knowing the devices strengths and weaknesses should be an important step before someone runs out and drops money on it. $35 is my weekly grocery budget some months. That's a lot of money to spend on something that may or may not be helpful to me.6 -
Some people really baffle me on MFP they do not seem to be here for support. But I am sure most people will make up there minds listen to reason and push through to their goals
Couple of questions. 1st, what kind of support is this "First relax, take a huge deep breath and buy these!" How is telling somebody to buy something so supportive, instead of trying to actually explain to them why something is happening to them, and then recommending what to do? Where was the information for what you recommended? You didn't tell anybody why you used them, how to use them to be most accurate, why they are helpful, and how it could help them change what they are doing if they stall is from something like inaccurate logging, or tracking of calories burnt or consumed. 2nd what kind of particular support you are personally looking for with this post?
So yeah I guess I'm missing out on the support part. Because I could easily just make a post saying "buy this" and show a picture of a food scale, but if there isn't any context to it, I'm not supporting anybody, just trying to get somebody to buy something.
Omg!!! Literally the funniest thing I read so far. You assume people cannot think for themselves and YOU are the only one with the intelligence to hold their hand and explain it - like they are a four year old. I give people more respect than that.
hmmm...
people actually are not that educated on weight loss vs fat loss and how to do it in a healthy manner...so yah we usually explain it...
it's not about respect it's about not being ignorant about these boards and what typically is on them.
most people don't care about bf% btw...they only care about scale weight...
But should they? That's all I am saying and trying to say keep motivated don't let the scale stop you. You could be making progress but the scale is making you feel otherwise. It is often water retention that the scale will discourage some when in fact they are making progress. It's not a scale weight people are seeking Its to look and feel better.
And what happens when they get wildly varying results from this device due to the afore-mentioned difference in hydration levels and the general inaccuracy of these types of devices? If a person is scared by normal fluctuations on the scale, fluctuations of their perceived body-fat percentage will certainly not help.4 -
LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
This is the best post on the thread! YES - there are alot of variables in our journey's. So do not rely simply on one means. It is absolutely true that CICO is the only means to lose weight, lose fat. But even during a CICO deficit you can/will run into a situation where the mathematical formula doesnt show on weight scale. The body doesnt seem to respond like computer. But if you are in a CICO deficit, you will lose weight/fat. A BMI/Fat monitor may indicate as such even though the scale says no.0 -
LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
What confusion would it create, exactly? Its another method of determining weight loss. There are a lot of variables which is why we tell newbies freaking out because they haven't lost any scale weight to take pictures or use a measuring tape. This is a more expensive option than pictures or a measuring tape but if someone wants to put out the $$, where is the harm? Its their money and their decision. I read it as the OP just presenting another option.
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LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
This is the best post on the thread! YES - there are alot of variables in our journey's. So do not rely simply on one means. It is absolutely true that CICO is the only means to lose weight, lose fat. But even during a CICO deficit you can/will run into a situation where the mathematical formula doesnt show on weight scale. The body doesnt seem to respond like computer. But if you are in a CICO deficit, you will lose weight/fat. A BMI/Fat monitor may indicate as such even though the scale says no.
I agree that even understanding CICO it's never linear but depending on how hydrated you are your weight and bf% will vary (sometimes by a lot) The best method is your data. Some weeks I gain 2lbs but I know I'm eating 1500 calories and over about a month I will see that weekly I lose 1.25lbs which is the best indicator. I guess the best answer to the "I stalled" problem may just be time and data.0 -
Ok Ok Ok...if I could I would simply delete this post. It worked for me! If I simplied relied on the scale I would be discouraged since the scale says I am stalled. Even though I have been in a calorie deficit, I log everything into MFP, I weigh my food on scale. I use a BMI/Fat monitor and see that everything is still progressing. My BMI is the same but my fat percentage is down. Maybe because I am weight training so the heavier muscle has compensated for the stalled weight. Holy cow people - it worked for me - thats all. I thought others would get the same peace of mind, but by your posts : I WAS CLEARLY WRONG.....0
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Some people really baffle me on MFP they do not seem to be here for support. But I am sure most people will make up there minds listen to reason and push through to their goals
Couple of questions. 1st, what kind of support is this "First relax, take a huge deep breath and buy these!" How is telling somebody to buy something so supportive, instead of trying to actually explain to them why something is happening to them, and then recommending what to do? Where was the information for what you recommended? You didn't tell anybody why you used them, how to use them to be most accurate, why they are helpful, and how it could help them change what they are doing if they stall is from something like inaccurate logging, or tracking of calories burnt or consumed. 2nd what kind of particular support you are personally looking for with this post?
So yeah I guess I'm missing out on the support part. Because I could easily just make a post saying "buy this" and show a picture of a food scale, but if there isn't any context to it, I'm not supporting anybody, just trying to get somebody to buy something.
Omg!!! Literally the funniest thing I read so far. You assume people cannot think for themselves and YOU are the only one with the intelligence to hold their hand and explain it - like they are a four year old. I give people more respect than that.
hmmm...
people actually are not that educated on weight loss vs fat loss and how to do it in a healthy manner...so yah we usually explain it...
it's not about respect it's about not being ignorant about these boards and what typically is on them.
most people don't care about bf% btw...they only care about scale weight...
But should they? That's all I am saying and trying to say keep motivated don't let the scale stop you. You could be making progress but the scale is making you feel otherwise. It is often water retention that the scale will discourage some when in fact they are making progress. It's not a scale weight people are seeking Its to look and feel better.
Their choice as they are adults....
should they...imo no...but I don't think BF% is the end all either...neither are measurements...
There are a lot fo ways to measure progress...my suggestion is to always look at them all...and take an overall pic of what they are telling you...
When I first started it was scale...then it was bf% then it was the weight on the bar...
I learned none of it matters if it is stressing you out...1 -
LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
What confusion would it create, exactly? Its another method of determining weight loss. There are a lot of variables which is why we tell newbies freaking out because they haven't lost any scale weight to take pictures or use a measuring tape. This is a more expensive option than pictures or a measuring tape but if someone wants to put out the $$, where is the harm? Its their money and their decision. I read it as the OP just presenting another option.
Will you be fielding all of the "Help! My body fat % went up half a percentage overnight!!!! 1!" questions on the boards? We see enough of them all ready to suggest that some people do not find solace in devices like this. I did not read the OP as an opinion because it was not phrased as one.5 -
LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
What confusion would it create, exactly? Its another method of determining weight loss. There are a lot of variables which is why we tell newbies freaking out because they haven't lost any scale weight to take pictures or use a measuring tape. This is a more expensive option than pictures or a measuring tape but if someone wants to put out the $$, where is the harm? Its their money and their decision. I read it as the OP just presenting another option.
I'm not sure there's a difference between OP's "buy this" and the ensuing "no, don't buy it". They're both opinions that can be used to inform a choice. This is a public forum and people are free to disagree and post their own opinion.
If I was wanting to buy such a device, I'd welcome a variety of opinions and advice to inform my choice.
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http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10544350/body-fat
Here's an example of what can happen to people when trying to get their body fat % from something that may not be accurate.
Oh please!!!
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LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
This is the best post on the thread! YES - there are alot of variables in our journey's. So do not rely simply on one means. It is absolutely true that CICO is the only means to lose weight, lose fat. But even during a CICO deficit you can/will run into a situation where the mathematical formula doesnt show on weight scale. The body doesnt seem to respond like computer. But if you are in a CICO deficit, you will lose weight/fat. A BMI/Fat monitor may indicate as such even though the scale says no.
It's still a good tool to use, but one I think requires even more time under your belt to rely on.0 -
Hey man, you're getting a lot of hate on this thread, but just wanted to say a couple of things. First, I think it's awesome you've found another way to track your progress. That being said, I think other people on here are getting caught up in the accuracy vs precision vs repeatability of these tools. In my experience, even though these handheld BIA's may not be the most accurate or precise tools, if used under similar conditions (hydration status, same time of the day, etc.), I think you'll find the results can be fairly repeatable.
That's to say, who cares if the number is actually what your true BF % is (unless, OF COURSE, you're a competitor and it truly matters what you weight, what your BF is, etc). These tools can still be used to determine directionality of results when used in similar environments over time. YMMV, but when I've used these in the past, I've always taken three tests at a time, within mere minutes of one another, and have never really seen results with any major discrepancies. So if you use it the same way, in the same conditions, with the understanding maybe you aren't ACTUALLY 18% BF but more or less, it can be a tool to determine if you're moving in the right direction.
Solid post, johnny, sorry you're catching so much hate4 -
My personal experience with a handheld body fat% monitor...
I had my body fat% tested when I was in the middle of my weight loss. I think it was 2 or 3 months later and 20 pounds lost, the body fat% showed only slightly lower. When I asked about it, the trainer who was administering the test said I likely lost mostly water weight, and I wasn't making progress like I thought I was. Aka he was full of *kitten and had no business saying that to me. At the time, I believe I was 150 pounds give or take at 5'5", I did not have 20 pounds of water weight to lose.
I appreciate your effort to provide another solution to the scale, but these things are tricky and can lead to the same type of mania as a scale can. Thankfully, I was confident enough in myself and progress I knew the machine to be incorrect, but that could be derailing to someone just starting out.4 -
LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
This is the best post on the thread! YES - there are alot of variables in our journey's. So do not rely simply on one means. It is absolutely true that CICO is the only means to lose weight, lose fat. But even during a CICO deficit you can/will run into a situation where the mathematical formula doesnt show on weight scale. The body doesnt seem to respond like computer. But if you are in a CICO deficit, you will lose weight/fat. A BMI/Fat monitor may indicate as such even though the scale says no.
It's still a good tool to use, but one I think requires even more time under your belt to rely on.
@fascha True! I assumed that people who get discouraged do have some time under their belt and needed a moral "keep going - you can and are doing it" would want a suggestion on how to look at it a different way. Clearly the majority thinks otherwise.0 -
I see far more 'I've been at it 2 (or 3 or 4) weeks and am getting so discouraged!' posts here than similar types of posts from people who have significant time under their belt. That's why we typically do encourage people to slow down, refocus their expectations, and try to view their progress through the long-term lens.2
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My personal experience with a handheld fat% monitor...
I had my body fat% tested when I was in the middle of my weight loss. I think it was 2 or 3 months later , 20 pounds lost the body fat% tested slightly lower. When I asked about it, the trainer who was administering the test said I probably had just lost water, and I wasn't making progress like I thought I was. Aka he was full of *kitten* and had no business saying that to me. At the time, I believe I was 150 pounds give or take at 5'5", I did not have 20 pounds of water weight to lose.
I appreciate your effort to provide another solution to the scale, but these things are tricky and can lead to the same type of mania as a scale can. Thankfully, I was confident enough in myself and progress I knew the machine to be incorrect, but that could be derailing to someone just starting out.
Awesome story @brittyn3 . Great take on what happens to some out there on their journeys to improving themselves. So glad to hear you kept at it and knew your body better than the trainer.0 -
To be clear, I have absolutely no problem, with somebody buying these things, and using them to aid in the process. My issue was the OP being worded as these $35 products being the end all to weight loss stalls, and that's kind of misleading. If it were worded as the OP saying this is what he used to help in his weight loss, but also said that it's his own experience, and his only then that's a different story.3
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Hey man, you're getting a lot of hate on this thread, but just wanted to say a couple of things. First, I think it's awesome you've found another way to track your progress. That being said, I think other people on here are getting caught up in the accuracy vs precision vs repeatability of these tools. In my experience, even though these handheld BIA's may not be the most accurate or precise tools, if used under similar conditions (hydration status, same time of the day, etc.), I think you'll find the results can be fairly repeatable.
That's to say, who cares if the number is actually what your true BF % is (unless, OF COURSE, you're a competitor and it truly matters what you weight, what your BF is, etc). These tools can still be used to determine directionality of results when used in similar environments over time. YMMV, but when I've used these in the past, I've always taken three tests at a time, within mere minutes of one another, and have never really seen results with any major discrepancies. So if you use it the same way, in the same conditions, with the understanding maybe you aren't ACTUALLY 18% BF but more or less, it can be a tool to determine if you're moving in the right direction.
Solid post, johnny, sorry you're catching so much hate
If that were the case then i never would have commented on this thread to begin with. Unfortunately, they aren't accurate to track trends overtime.
You can read more here.
Anecdotally, because i have one of these as well and it was money i wasted... mine will give me wild readings from 14% all the way up to 25% even given the same variables and factors.3 -
To be clear, I have absolutely no problem, with somebody buying these things, and using them to aid in the process. My issue was the OP being worded as these $35 products being the end all to weight loss stalls, and that's kind of misleading. If it were worded as the OP saying this is what he used to help in his weight loss, but also said that it's his own experience, and his only then that's a different story.
I did say "it is what happened to me". I was stating that this helped me. I will most likely stay off these communities going forward, seems less of a place to share your story and what works for you than, give others a different way of looking at things, help motivation but more of a place to bash anyone who posts an opinion and is trying to help.0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
What confusion would it create, exactly? Its another method of determining weight loss. There are a lot of variables which is why we tell newbies freaking out because they haven't lost any scale weight to take pictures or use a measuring tape. This is a more expensive option than pictures or a measuring tape but if someone wants to put out the $$, where is the harm? Its their money and their decision. I read it as the OP just presenting another option.
Will you be fielding all of the "Help! My body fat % went up half a percentage overnight!!!! 1!" questions on the boards? We see enough of them all ready to suggest that some people do not find solace in devices like this. I did not read the OP as an opinion because it was not phrased as one.
Nope. However, I presume I'm still allowed to offer an opinion on this one? Many people won't find this device helpful, so they won't buy them. Some people may find it helpful.0 -
LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
My scale does this (Withings scale) and I can assure you looking at the results in Trendweight, it would be far more frustrating to just follow the BF% with how much it varies day-to-day. You think scale results look wonky.
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To be clear, I have absolutely no problem, with somebody buying these things, and using them to aid in the process. My issue was the OP being worded as these $35 products being the end all to weight loss stalls, and that's kind of misleading. If it were worded as the OP saying this is what he used to help in his weight loss, but also said that it's his own experience, and his only then that's a different story.
I did say "it is what happened to me". I was stating that this helped me. I will most likely stay off these communities going forward, seems less of a place to share your story and what works for you than, give others a different way of looking at things, help motivation but more of a place to bash anyone who posts an opinion and is trying to help.
Nobody is bashing you.0 -
To be clear, I have absolutely no problem, with somebody buying these things, and using them to aid in the process. My issue was the OP being worded as these $35 products being the end all to weight loss stalls, and that's kind of misleading. If it were worded as the OP saying this is what he used to help in his weight loss, but also said that it's his own experience, and his only then that's a different story.
I don't know, it seemed pretty obvious to me that it was his opinion.1 -
If I took being ignorant personally and dipped rather than evaluating information presented to me for its validity I'd still be 240lbs.2
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LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
What confusion would it create, exactly? Its another method of determining weight loss. There are a lot of variables which is why we tell newbies freaking out because they haven't lost any scale weight to take pictures or use a measuring tape. This is a more expensive option than pictures or a measuring tape but if someone wants to put out the $$, where is the harm? Its their money and their decision. I read it as the OP just presenting another option.
Will you be fielding all of the "Help! My body fat % went up half a percentage overnight!!!! 1!" questions on the boards? We see enough of them all ready to suggest that some people do not find solace in devices like this. I did not read the OP as an opinion because it was not phrased as one.
Nope. However, I presume I'm still allowed to offer an opinion on this one? Many people won't find this device helpful, so they won't buy them. Some people may find it helpful.
Of course some people may find it useful. But knowing the pros and cons before they buy can only be a good thing. I just don't think everyone will find them useful, as the OP seems to be implying, and some may find them more stressful. Seeing the positives as well as the negatives is useful in a recommendation thread like this.2 -
diannethegeek wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »I'm not understanding some of the grief directed at the OP. Some people might find the device effective and would like to try it. What's the big deal if they do? Its their money and their weight loss and their lesson to learn if it doesn't work. Its not like he's advocating ACV pills on top of a super low calorie diet. It isn't dangerous, right? Have the ones against the device tried it and found it didn't work? I could understand the protests, then.
I think most people have an issue with the substitution of one measuring gadget for another creating more confusion. There are a lot of variables that come into play and the real answer is thermodynamics. No way around that.
What confusion would it create, exactly? Its another method of determining weight loss. There are a lot of variables which is why we tell newbies freaking out because they haven't lost any scale weight to take pictures or use a measuring tape. This is a more expensive option than pictures or a measuring tape but if someone wants to put out the $$, where is the harm? Its their money and their decision. I read it as the OP just presenting another option.
Will you be fielding all of the "Help! My body fat % went up half a percentage overnight!!!! 1!" questions on the boards? We see enough of them all ready to suggest that some people do not find solace in devices like this. I did not read the OP as an opinion because it was not phrased as one.
Nope. However, I presume I'm still allowed to offer an opinion on this one? Many people won't find this device helpful, so they won't buy them. Some people may find it helpful.
Of course some people may find it useful. But knowing the pros and cons before they buy can only be a good thing. I just don't think everyone will find them useful, as the OP seems to be implying, and some may find them more stressful. Seeing the positives as well as the negatives is useful in a recommendation thread like this.
Great Point!0 -
To be clear, I have absolutely no problem, with somebody buying these things, and using them to aid in the process. My issue was the OP being worded as these $35 products being the end all to weight loss stalls, and that's kind of misleading. If it were worded as the OP saying this is what he used to help in his weight loss, but also said that it's his own experience, and his only then that's a different story.
I did say "it is what happened to me". I was stating that this helped me. I will most likely stay off these communities going forward, seems less of a place to share your story and what works for you than, give others a different way of looking at things, help motivation but more of a place to bash anyone who posts an opinion and is trying to help.
Nobody is bashing you.
Agreed. OP- No one is saying "you're wrong and you should feel bad!" or "you're a terrible person OP how dare you share something you think is working for you!".
I think the main thing is setting the record straight for newbies who haven't been there and don't know yet. If we were to blindly "support" (aka agree with) every post just for the sake of being nice there would be a lot more fatlogic on the boards than there is.
The great thing about MFP is that members can (in general) be rest assured that the information they receive is factual.3 -
rainbowbow wrote: »To be clear, I have absolutely no problem, with somebody buying these things, and using them to aid in the process. My issue was the OP being worded as these $35 products being the end all to weight loss stalls, and that's kind of misleading. If it were worded as the OP saying this is what he used to help in his weight loss, but also said that it's his own experience, and his only then that's a different story.
I did say "it is what happened to me". I was stating that this helped me. I will most likely stay off these communities going forward, seems less of a place to share your story and what works for you than, give others a different way of looking at things, help motivation but more of a place to bash anyone who posts an opinion and is trying to help.
Nobody is bashing you.
Agreed. OP- No one is saying "you're wrong and you should feel bad!" or "you're a terrible person OP how dare you share something you think is working for you!".
I think the main thing is setting the record straight for newbies who haven't been there and don't know yet. If we were to blindly "support" (aka agree with) every post just for the sake of being nice there would be a lot more fatlogic on the boards than there is.
The great thing about MFP is that members can (in general) be rest assured that the information they receive is factual.
Awesome sounds like solid information and good advice!0 -
Some people really baffle me on MFP they do not seem to be here for support. But I am sure most people will make up there minds listen to reason and push through to their goals
Couple of questions. 1st, what kind of support is this "First relax, take a huge deep breath and buy these!" How is telling somebody to buy something so supportive, instead of trying to actually explain to them why something is happening to them, and then recommending what to do? Where was the information for what you recommended? You didn't tell anybody why you used them, how to use them to be most accurate, why they are helpful, and how it could help them change what they are doing if they stall is from something like inaccurate logging, or tracking of calories burnt or consumed. 2nd what kind of particular support you are personally looking for with this post?
So yeah I guess I'm missing out on the support part. Because I could easily just make a post saying "buy this" and show a picture of a food scale, but if there isn't any context to it, I'm not supporting anybody, just trying to get somebody to buy something.
Omg!!! Literally the funniest thing I read so far. You assume people cannot think for themselves and YOU are the only one with the intelligence to hold their hand and explain it - like they are a four year old. I give people more respect than that.
^^For the record, this is the post that pushed me to even consider adding my two cents. Putting someone down this hard and heavy for trying to offer an alternate perspective is always going to end bad.7 -
I work next to the Omron corporate office and talked with one of the design engineers about this same device. As it states in the instructions consistency is dependent on the user. The most accurate results are going to occur in the morning after a voiding. I've been using this for 2 years now and the results are within 1% of our DEXA scan.1
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