May 2017 Running Challenge
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@MNLittleFinn That does look nice! From what I understand from talking to runners that have run marathons is you want a course that mixes up and down hills so you're not fatiguing one leg muscle group. I'm going to have to strengthen my quads for the constant cycling of basically catching myself with my legs going down hill.
yup, yours might be a quad killer, but at least you know and can train for it. OTOH, it should be a pretty fast course too, if you're ready for the pounding, which I'm sure you will be!0 -
@MNLittleFinn Thanks, we'll see. I wish I was where you're at though (almost done with training and getting into tapper mode and getting excited to run it). I know you're ready!! Way to fight through the couple obstacles (sickness and injury) that you've overcome in the couple months I've been on here. You're doing great! I wish I could run 19 miles! After about 10 I get that scene in my head from Lord of the Rings where Sam stops and says to Frodo "If I take one more step, it will be the furthest away from home I've ever been."3
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HAHAHAHAHA. That's great! I felt that way before too..... Then I started driving to my starting point and running home...LOL.... Yeah, it's great having "only" 4 and a half weeks until taper, and 6.5 total until race day. A year ago, I NEVER would have thought it possible. Just goes to show that taking risks can often lead to big rewards.... Or I hope it will come race day!@MNLittleFinn Thanks, we'll see. I wish I was where you're at though (almost done with training and getting into tapper mode and getting excited to run it). I know you're ready!! Way to fight through the couple obstacles (sickness and injury) that you've overcome in the couple months I've been on here. You're doing great! I wish I could run 19 miles! After about 10 I get that scene in my head from Lord of the Rings where Sam stops and says to Frodo "If I take one more step, it will be the furthest away from home I've ever been."
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »
HAHAHAHAHA. That's great! I felt that way before too..... Then I started driving to my starting point and running home...LOL.... Yeah, it's great having "only" 4 and a half weeks until taper, and 6.5 total until race day. A year ago, I NEVER would have thought it possible. Just goes to show that taking risks can often lead to big rewards.... Or I hope it will come race day!@MNLittleFinn Thanks, we'll see. I wish I was where you're at though (almost done with training and getting into tapper mode and getting excited to run it). I know you're ready!! Way to fight through the couple obstacles (sickness and injury) that you've overcome in the couple months I've been on here. You're doing great! I wish I could run 19 miles! After about 10 I get that scene in my head from Lord of the Rings where Sam stops and says to Frodo "If I take one more step, it will be the furthest away from home I've ever been."
Wait, how do you get your car back? Does someone drive you?
I've thought about having my husband dropping me off somewhere then picking me up at some point 12 miles later...0 -
I have an extremely understanding wife, who is just getting into running, who brings me to my car, and a great friend who lets me park in front of their house. I can get anywhere for 12-20 miles this way depending on route, and if I want to loop a little once I get back to my town.Wait, how do you get your car back? Does someone drive you?
I've thought about having my husband dropping me off somewhere then picking me up at some point 12 miles later...0 -
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So funny- I have a migraine. I can't think at all. I forget words. talking is too fast, I don't understand. TV is impossible to follow. Like Parmesan.. I mean, it seems like it's odd. Its it a real word? DH offered to take me to the hospital. Nah, I'll take some meds, shower and nap. DD got mail and I can't tell u what it is. Ya know. The thing u get from the bank so u can buy stuff. The little thing. A card but not a game like a thing like Uhhh. Uh dun no? Haha! Funny. My poor brain thing. Idk what it's called.
10th-15th in Georgia.
8.27/50+
UPCOMING RACES
May 27- XTERRA Rock Dallas Trail Run. 5k.
July 8- XTERRA Jurassic Trail Run, 5K. Glen Rose,TX
Dec 2- POOP trail run, Hoping for a half! Norman OK.3 -
5/1: rest day
5/2: 5 miles
5/3: 6.3 miles
5/4: 4.1 miles
TOTAL: 15.4/120 miles
The cooler weather here in central Ohio this week has made for some great running weather. Last I commented on my running here, I was having some questionable twinges in my right shin. Taking a rest day on Monday and moving my Tuesday run to the evening gave me a good 2.5 days off. It seems that the extra rest was just what it needed but I still played things safe and ran on the flat trail Tuesday and Wednesday. Today was 4 easy miles in light rain in my slightly hillier neighborhood (4.1 miles in 38:55, 9:28 min/mile). Took the first two miles faster than I should have, which tends to happen when I am running more hills. I kept trying to remind myself to slow down, so when I found myself powering up a hill after mile two and realized what I was doing, I made myself walk to slow down the HR and re-focus on a slower pace. That seemed to help and the last two miles were at the easier pace I was aiming for. Tomorrow will be a rest day as I'm traveling to Chicago right after work but I should have some time on Saturday morning to get in a long run6 -
@MNLittleFinn Thanks, we'll see. I wish I was where you're at though (almost done with training and getting into tapper mode and getting excited to run it). I know you're ready!! Way to fight through the couple obstacles (sickness and injury) that you've overcome in the couple months I've been on here. You're doing great! I wish I could run 19 miles! After about 10 I get that scene in my head from Lord of the Rings where Sam stops and says to Frodo "If I take one more step, it will be the furthest away from home I've ever been."
Wrong quote. Here's the right one: "There may come a day when I cannot run 19 miles. Today is NOT THAT DAY!"7 -
Another 3 miler. First mile super slow with walk breaks. My shins weren't on fire this time but I was trying to take breaks and ease into it and avoid the pain. Second mile i turned on metronome and started picking up pace but I stopped to look at a very unhappy and noisy cow. It was alone on one side of the road. The other side had lots of cows that were running with me which was hilarious. But that poor sad cow! Third mile was continuous and 9:44 pace. What?! This metronome app has broken the curse and my feet are moving again! Whoop!
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5/1: 3 miles
5/2: 4 miles
5/3: 4 miles
5/4: 3 miles
MY BACK IS FIXED! I think. I had to go to a chiro who cracked my back--> she realigned my SI joint and some lower vertebrae and told me to stop cracking my back all the time and to get back to the gym for strength training and to come back next week to make sure I'm good to go. But already I feel so much better; my back is un-tensing from compensating for the misalignment and I have almost full mobility back. I should be set to get some good miles in this weekend on the trails and the roads. Oh happy day!!!
That said, I was still a bit stiff and sore by the time my running group assembly began, so I only went for the second (flatter) loop rather than both 3 mile routes. It was such a beautiful night that I hated to cut the run in half, but ultimately it's the better choice.
Upcoming Races
5/14: Delaware Marathon Running Festival HM
7/1: Finger Lake Fifties 50k (trail)
10/8: Steamtown Marathon (BQ Attempt #3)
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May Running Totals (miles)
5/1 – 5.16 easy
5/2 – 6.67 easy
5/3 – rest day
5/4 – 8.08 easy
May total to date – 19.91
Nominal Challenge Goal – 200 miles
Real Goals: Stay healthy. Build base. 5/28, start training plan toward MVP Rochester Marathon.
Today's notes – After some warning twinges from various body parts, I took yesterday as a rest day. It was a day of beautiful running weather. I got the lawn mowed.
Today was club practice, in the rain. Fortunately, it was not raining as hard as the forecast led me to believe. Top of the white board, the first assingment was "Recovery: 6 to 9 miles at E." I interpreted that to include the 2 mile warm up, and ran 6 miles with a group of other runners. We started out slow, then I got talking to a younger runner and we ran a couple of the later miles close to my MP. The 6 miles averaged close to 8 minutes per mile, so I guess it was okay. The good news is, the quad didn't twinge today like it did on Tuesday. It gave me some warning grumbles on the warm up, but it was pretty quiet in the 6 mile run. There was an option to add 4 x 400 at T pace if you felt up to it. I didn't seriously consider it. Maybe if it hadn't been raining, that would have felt okay.
I'm dithering between a rest day and something fairly short tomorrow. If it rains, the rest day will probably win. Saturday I'm pacing 10/12/20/22 miles at an 8:00 pace. The exact distance depends on who shows up and how many miles they need. I think I'll be up to it, but that potential 20-22 miles Saturday is a reason not to get very ambitious tomorrow.
In other news, I registered for three more races today. Decided I definitely want another crack at MVP Rochester Marathon, to prove I can manage it better and complete the course. The other two are Rochester Runner of the Year races. I'd run Grace any way, but Karknocker is on the list only because it's part of the RROY series.
2017 races:
January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY)
June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Rochester, NY)
June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY)
September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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@lporter229 I bought some compression capris when I was having Runner’s Knee, and they helped so much. I don't know if I would have made it through the marathon without KT Tape, knee sleeves, and compression capris.
@Elise4270 Hope your migraine goes away!!
@MNLittleFinn Your marathon is sooooo close! Yay!
@_nikkiwolf_ I'm so sorry your knee is bugging you so close to your race. Hoping for a cooperative knee on race day!2 -
Ok - maybe this will help get me motivated again. I ran my first - and likely last - marathon a few weeks ago and I am struggling to get back into the routine, and routine for me is just 3 runs per week, lol. I guess I will go for 80 miles this month.
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Another rest day.
Welcome to all the new folks. Don't be intimidated by what some of us can do. If you do only 10 miles this month, that is 10 more than most people.
RE: First time 5K. I can't think of really anything more to add than what was already said.Understand that the environment will pull you out faster than you intended to run. Don't be ashamed to slow down if that's what you need to do do keep running. This is every bit as true in the middle of the pack as it is near the front.
This is very true. Race day is very exciting, and you're tapered up. The first mile is always the hardest cause your body hasn't had enough time to produce enough lactate and H+ ions yet. So you feel good, your adrenaline is kicking, and everyone around you is running fast, and you don't realize that you're running too fast until it's too late.
Another thing I have to add. 80+ degree weather like I had this weekend for my race. My first mile was 7:30. Obviously I felt good if my goal pace was supposed to be 7:38. Second mile was 7:35 (still to fast). I still felt great, except for one thing. I was sweating profusely. That was a warning sign to me that I may not be able to keep goal. Third mile 7:41, and fourth mile 7:39. Fifth mile 7:41 and then somewhere after that when I remember we were going through Churchill Downs I started to feel a lil dizzy and knew I really had to slow it down. Mile 6 8:01 and mile 7 7:56 then mile 8 8:18, mile 9 8:31, mile 10 8:57 and the pattern continued. The heat really started to bother me. Not to mention the hills of Iroquois Park were coming. Point I am making, environment in this case was knowing I was running in bad weather and I had to come to realize that running my goal performance was not going to happen that day and to accept the fact that I will not meet goal and instead just focus on finishing the race. If I decided to push it out and keep that pace, I may have gotten myself sick and the last few miles would have been much worse than what it ended up being. I survived the day to race another day.
There are formulas to help you predict how far off your pace can be effected for every 5 degrees above ideal temperatures. I have to find it before summer hits. But it doesn't take much to adversely effect you.
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wishiwasarunner wrote: »Ok - maybe this will help get me motivated again. I ran my first - and likely last - marathon a few weeks ago and I am struggling to get back into the routine, and routine for me is just 3 runs per week, lol. I guess I will go for 80 miles this month.
5/4 3.2 miles
Don't feel bad. Coming back from a marathon is not easy. I just got done with one this past Saturday. I haven't ran since. I am giving my body a break. next week is planed to be very light for me. I plan to slowly ease back into training. This was my 4th marathon too. There are at least a couple of others in this thread that the week after their marathon, they almost swore off running marathons and long distances. Then a couple of weeks later they are back at it again. So it's normal to not feel motivated after a marathon. Running over 26 miles is very traumatic to your body and mind. Not to mention all the training you did going into that race. Your body and mind will need the break.6 -
This thread moves so fast sometimes, it's awesome. Loving all the first time race tips, especially re: early race restraint.
Welcome back @wishiwasarunner , congrats on finishing your most recent marathon! I'm sure the time off is well deserved!
Glad your back is (hopefully) back in the game @kristinegift! I am admittedly terrified of chiropractors, you're better than me!
Ran a beautiful and oddly warm 14.5 tonight. Realized my mint running shorts will not be making the cut for Red Deer because the weird seams started to chafe even post Body Glide and I don't want none of that mess on race day. Ordered my Guide 10's while I was out with my babies today, they'll get here just before RDM. Debating whether I'll run the marathon in my too neutral Kinvara 8 road shoes and risk rolling in when I hit pace or chance running it in the Guides and potentially trash my legs because of the difference in how the shoe corrects
May 1- Rest
May 2- 14.2
May 3- Rest
May 4- 14.5
28.7/300km3 -
Treadmill again today... thought electrolytes were sorted out better, but used treadmill for caution. Turns out I'm doing better, but still not fully recovered. Taking more potassium for now. Slow run/walk 4 miles.
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May goal: 50 miles
5/1/17: 4 miles
5/3/17: 3.5 miles
5/4/27: 3.1miles
10.6/50 miles
Thanks for all the first race tips everyone! This really is a great group. I ran 3.1miles (5k) tonight and plan to rest tomorrow. I may take the dogs out for a little walk, but nothing too strenuous. I hope everyone has a great weekend!
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That would be great if you could get your husband to drop you off.Wait, how do you get your car back? Does someone drive you?
I've thought about having my husband dropping me off somewhere then picking me up at some point 12 miles later...
That's one of the advantages of our local running group, we will co-ordinate and one of us will drop a vehicle at the far end of a one way run and one of the other runners will shuttle the dropped vehicle driver back to the start area.
@Elise4270 I hope you don't suffer from to many Migraines, The symptoms are so varied-painful for some. Get better girl.
Speaking of get better - @kristinegift She's back with her re-aligned spine - look out shoes I see some punishment coming your way.
The dangers of Rest Days = Registering for more events.After some warning twinges from various body parts, I took yesterday as a rest day. It was a day of beautiful running weather. I got the lawn mowed. ///
In other news, I registered for three more races today.
The dangers of travelling for work - You pack your Running Gear knowing that you need to make sure you don't become a Hotel Slug and fill some of the down time with a few runs. Which means I have hit the trails for 4 days in a row. I never do 4 days, should have taken today as a rest/cross training day. Today was definitely the definition of SSD - Short Slow Day, by the time I got to 0.5 km I knew that it was not my day.
In my previous runs I had poked my shoes down a few side trails that I want to explore and that's what the plan was for today. By the time I got 1km in I knew it was not to be as I had no energy and my pace avg at 7:21/km when my normal Long Slow Distance (LSD) pace should have been right around 6:10/km. Struggled through it and managed to get in 7.5 km. I was probably affected by the Heat Wave we are in 23.9C = 75F. Tomorrow night will be rest/cross training-swimming?
05/01 0 km – 160 km - 0 km – YTD 420.15
05/01 11.5 km – 148.5 km - 11.5km – YTD 431.65
05/02 5.5 km – 143.0 km - 17.0km – YTD 437.15
05/03 10.0 km – 133.0 km - 27.0km – YTD 447.15
05/04 7.5 km – 128.0 km - 34.50km – YTD 454.65 Edmonton Kinsmen - Emily Murphy - Hawrelak
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May goal: wear sunblock
May 1: sat on my okole. All. Day. Long.
May 2: 3.13
May 3: 6.06
May 4: 4.08
Total: 13.27
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
upcoming races:
Volcano Rainforest Runs 10k 8/19
BlockThe Sun Run 5k Oct 14 (https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017) (physical and virtual options available)kristinegift wrote: »
Please excuse my maudlin guilt trip, but the photo below is probably one of the reasons my son died at age 39 of melanoma: this was in Arizona....in August....at 100+ degrees....and was followed by a severe sunburn.
Wear your sunblock....
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Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- May 04 5.1 5.1 May 05 5.1 10.2
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Sadly it's extremely rainy here as it's impossible to get any running done. Crossing my fingers I'll get some running in at the beginning of next week.0
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JessicaMcB wrote: »Glad your back is (hopefully) back in the game @kristinegift! I am admittedly terrified of chiropractors, you're better than me!
@JessicaMcB I've never been to a chiropractor because having someone pop my spine seems a bit scary, but desperate times call for desperate measures! There was no way I could have worked my SI back into place myself so a professional was necessary. I was definitely nervous though!
@juliet3455 Putting some shoes through their paces this weekend, I hope!! Watch out!0 -
I just found this and am getting back into running. I am excited to have found you all!!!!6
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no running for me over the last couple of days - I figure I can't do anything more training wise towards my Half Marathon on Sunday so best to take it easy!!!!5
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5/1- 8.1
5/2- 4.6
5/3-9
5/4- REST
5/5- 5.7
Total: 27.4
May Goal: Get through most of the last 5 weeks before taper healthy
Nominal mileage goal: 220 Miles.
Today's notes: Today's assignment was 5 miles and 4 strides. I actually ran 5.1 miles and it felt good. total time was 48:36, for an average pace of 9:31. This was a bit fast, and my HR data confirmed that, with an average HR of 154, which put my average just barely in the E range. This was probably because I turned off m fast pace alert, and just ran by breath count, 6 in, 6 out, for the 90% of the run, and 6 in 4 out on one slightly steeper uphill. This run felt pretty good, though I'll probably be turning the pace alert back on for tomorrow's 19 miler.
Strides were strides, nothing really exciting, ran 4x0.1mi strides with 1 minute rest in between, and they felt good.
Have a Runderful day all!
2017 Races
6/16- William A Irvin 5k
6/17- Grandma's Marathon (Full!)
8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
10/21 Wild Duluth 50k<- yeah, I'm crazy enough to go for it
11/23- TBD 5k Turkey Trot3 -
@_nikkiwolf_ - sorry about your knee! It is definitely no good talking to your coworkers about running issues if they aren't runners. I try to not talk about it at all except in here, and my few "in person" running friends. Even the hard core cyclists I ride with always say running is bad for the knees. So I don't mention it. Luckily there are some cyclists who are triathletes so I can chat with them!
Rest day for me. It worked out well because it was thundering and lightning this morning. I don't like running only 3x a week because I can't get my mileage very high with that number of runs. But if I want to rest one day a week, strength train 2x a week and cycle 3x a week I have to double up on some days. But I know I have some weekends when I can't cycle so I can run an extra day then.
5/1 - 4 miles + strength training
5/2 - 3.5 miles
5/3 - 21 miles cycling
5/4 - 5 miles + strength training
5/5 - rest day
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Today's long run required an extremely early start in order to complete it prior to getting in to the office. So at 2AM, it was time to get up and get ready...just as my wife was coming to bed, lol.
The run went fine. I'd planned it a while back as an extension to my normal routes, but this was the first time actually running it. The minor niggle I had yesterday with my left knee wasn't around today, well not until about mile 13 when it suddenly went 'psst, hey slow down', so I took it a little easier and the niggle dissolved away. Overall, managed an easy pace of 10:05, which is just about right for where my easy runs should be.
Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone!
1 - 13.50
02 - 10.58
03 - 13.49
04 - 9.80
05 - 20.14
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@garygse I saw that run time on Strava and was, at first, convinced that it was an error! That's some major dedication there! Great run!1
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Great to see so many people joining in!
@wishiwasarunner - I think you're doing great by keeping focused on returning yet being slow and cautious. It took me about 6 weeks of no running and a month of short runs to get back into running before I felt good about running again after the fall season that had my first full marathons.
Now I'm wondering why the hell I signed myself up to repeat that insanity this fall?!?! I definitely recall never feeling so tired in my life!!
@garygse - You are cranking out some incredible mileage! Do you have any target events in mind? Your training looks like a build for an ultra. 4
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