May 2017 Running Challenge
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I've never really had a pooping issue before, but now that I'm doing a longer run I'm a bit paranoid and wait to go before heading out. I've been fine during my runs, but I've noticed the rest of the day I'll have cramping like I have to keep going. Anyone else experience that? It's like my bowels are on overdrive
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Hmmm.... I didn't realize pooping before a run was that big of a deal for so many. LOL I never even consider it. Of course I live a completely unscheduled life. I run "whenever I get around to it" and I poop whenever I need to, not at a certain time. LOL I can only remember once that I thought I really needed to get home in a hurry! Now my bladder on the other hand....if in doubt, always pee again before heading out the door.
Sooooo..... night before last, I jumped out of bed and hurt my knee. It was fine the next day but then I did the same thing again second night in a row! This time it was worse and I had to hop back to bed on one leg! Again, I feel fine today. So no clue what's up. I've had a sharp pain on the inner edge of this knee cap for probably 2 years but it doesn't hurt when running/walking/squatting/jumping. I can't reproduce the pain ever. It just comes at random when I'm moving about the house. I guess I'll just keep on as long as it doesn't hurt to walk or anything???0 -
@girlinahat I've been struggling with the same thing without even running that far. Sleeping more definitely made a difference. But I couldn't keep up the early bedtime. I really need to get back to it. Problem is I like to doze off watching tv and with lights on! I have to turn everything off for my husband to get the point that I've really gone to sleep for the night and not disturb me when he decides to come to bed. When I was taking it seriously and shutting everything off, he actually started joining me for the earlier bedtime. Somehow we both got back off track. Anyway, I've noticed I feel really tired and want to quit during my warmup but then I'm okay once I start running. But I don't say that to encourage you to ignore your body signals. Just to say that if you sleep some more and improve your diet and all, you may find staying active helps too, within reason. Maybe stay close to home or your car, that way you can always bail out if you need to.
@amymoreorless Love the carbivore pic!1 -
@RespectTheKitty IBS-D "runs" my life. Always near a potty, or throw away socks and a wooded area.2
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@RespectTheKitty IBS-D "runs" my life. Always near a potty, or throw away socks and a wooded area.
I am so glad I started a conversation about pooping.
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2/5 - 3.2
4/5 - 3.2
6/5 - 3.3
7/5-3.3
8/5 - 3.3
9/5 - 3.2
11/5 - 4.0 miles
total - 23.5/805 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
@amymoreorless I don't know what I hate more the bugs in my mouth or up my nose ha ha
I had one kill itself once by flying into my eyeball. I had to run I think around the last .5 mile of my run with it there, before I had access to a clean tissue from my car to get it out. I will take a bug in the mouth or the nose any day of the week over having a repeat of that experience
@KatieJane83 You win! Eyeball bugs are much worse! I am now inspired to wear sunglasses on my next run instead of my usual visor.2 -
@zdyb23456-dont you hate people like that. I have been sick 4 times this year already, and 3 of which was because someone coughed im my face, ugh (2 of those were a special needs kid I have to tube feed) Im so over being sick
As far as this pooping subject goes, I can not dictate my runs based on whether I have pooped or not. I have IBS-C and if I didnt run until I pooped first, I would almost never run, ugh.0 -
amymoreorless wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
@amymoreorless I don't know what I hate more the bugs in my mouth or up my nose ha ha
I had one kill itself once by flying into my eyeball. I had to run I think around the last .5 mile of my run with it there, before I had access to a clean tissue from my car to get it out. I will take a bug in the mouth or the nose any day of the week over having a repeat of that experience
@KatieJane83 You win! Eyeball bugs are much worse! I am now inspired to wear sunglasses on my next run instead of my usual visor.
Lol, it was kinda traumatic0 -
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Date : Distance : Total
05/01 : 4 miles : 4 miles
05/03 : 4 miles : 8 miles
05/06 : 4 miles : 12 miles
05/10 : 5 miles (walk) : 17 miles
05/11 : 4 miles (walk) : 21 miles
Foot still painful today. Surgery end of July so likely won't do great until Fall3 -
I'm in for May!
Goal: 50 miles
5/1-2.5
5/3-6.0
5/6-6.0
5/10-4.5
5/11-5.0
Total: 24 miles
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Ewww, I had that twice; and the second time I couldn't get it out before I got home. I was going insane all the way back! Even worse than getting little bugs in the nose is. Faced with those options, I'd rather inhale them. Although I could do without either...KatieJane83 wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
@amymoreorless I don't know what I hate more the bugs in my mouth or up my nose ha ha
I had one kill itself once by flying into my eyeball. I had to run I think around the last .5 mile of my run with it there, before I had access to a clean tissue from my car to get it out. I will take a bug in the mouth or the nose any day of the week over having a repeat of that experience
@bgagne09 and @dchurch80 Welcome to the group!
@katharmonic Lol, that gators photo is too funny! Must have been a reptile lover who put that sign there.
@girlinahat If you already had a few days of rest and are still exhausted all the time: maybe get a doctor to do a blood test? Then you would know for sure if you are low on iron, or anything else.
@hanlonsk Awesome race! Congratulations on the huge improvement
@midwesterner85 If I were you, I'd probably sign up for one of the races on 5/20, if it's close enough/easy to reach. If you don't feel recovered enough to race it when the time comes, just run it easy and enjoy the atmosphere
@RespectTheKitty Ha, I totally understand your "TMI-reason" for not running this morning. That's one of the reasons I don't run first thing in the morning, I need to be awake and moving for a bit before I can take care of that business, so rolling out of bed and heading out for a run right away is out of question for me.
@rusgolden Temperature does have a huge impact on your pace. If the weather just got warmer and you aren't used to it yet, then your usual pace will feel harder than before.
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I've been good and resting the last four days. Well, I did extend my bike commute home to ~an hour of cycling in the evening each yesterday and today, but no running. Last year I went for the first run two days after the marathon, but since my knee was already bugging me before the race, I figured I should give it a little more recovery this time. Although a run is really tempting, I didn't feel any lasting soreness after Tuesday, so the crazy little voice in my head keeps telling me that was enough rest now ^^. I might try a short run tomorrow, or wait until Saturday, I haven't decided yet.
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Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
05/01/17 :::: 2.7 :::: 2.7
05/02/17 :::: 3.2 :::: 5.9
05/03/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 8.9
05/04/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 12.9
05/05/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 16.0
05/06/17 :::: 10.0 :::: 26.0
05/07/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 26.0
05/08/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 29.9
05/09/17 :::: 2.5 :::: 32.5
05/10/17 :::: 5.1 :::: 37.6
05/11/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 40.9 out of 75
Nice run today after work. Beautiful 63 degrees. Just ran an easy out and back along the canal trail.
I usually listen to a couple of specific running playlists I have but was getting kind of bored so just did a random play of songs I had on spotify and found myself surprisingly pick up the pace to the 80s song "All Cried Out" by Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam. Who remembers that one besides me? I just wanted to belt it out. Don't you know the heart will cause an inferno... I'm going to put that one on my HM playlist.
@_nikkiwolf_ I think the reptiles themselves put the sign there
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So, I found a loopish route that intrigues me....but it would make my last 20 mile run be on a 21 mile course.... LOL.... If all goes well I'll have 3 20 mile runs instead of the 2 scheduled. If not, well, I'll make a good showing of it!3
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Yes, I'm definitely going to sign up for the race on 5/20... probably will do the 10K distance.
Tonight's 2nd run outside since recovering from the electrolyte-related muscle issues was 4.01 miles and 1s/mile faster on average (so basically the same) than the 1st run (earlier this week) of 4.66 miles. Other miles this month were on the treadmill earlier in recovery.
Edit: I did it... signed up for the 10K on 5/20.7 -
@_nikkiwolf_ thanks for the reply. I'll see how the pace goes the next couple of weeks. Planning on a potential 10k race at the beginning of June.1
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May Running Totals (miles)
5/1 – 5.16 easy
5/2 – 6.67 easy
5/3 – rest day
5/4 – 8.08 easy
5/5 – rest day
5/6 – 11.23 loosely paced run
5/7 – 11.08 easy with fast finish
5/8 – 5.23 easy
5/9 – 8.16 warm up, speed work, cool down
5/10 – 5.66 group run
5/11 – 7.25 easy plus 5 strides
May total to date – 68.52
Nominal Challenge Goal – 200 miles
Real Goals: Stay healthy. Build base. 5/28, start training plan toward MVP Rochester Marathon.
Today's notes – Nice running weather this evening. Did my 2 mile warm up, ending at base for club practice. The assignment for those of us running Lilac 10K was 8 miles at E plus 4x50m strides. I thought about total miles, and needing to pace 15 miles on Saturday. Decided to count the warm up as part of the distance, and still not do the full 8.
Another guy, one age group older than me, proposed doing a preview of the Lilac course. What the heck, we were within easy running distance of the first turn on that course. And because Lilac is an out, loop, and back with the preview starting on the loop, I could just chop off part of the out and back to keep the distance down. So we went off do to the preview. I tried to slow to Jack's easy pace; we ended up running in the 8:15-8:20 range a lot. That's slow end of easy for me, but I think it was closer to MP for Jack. Got through the end of the loop, took the back to the top of the first rise, and I turned around while Jack went on. Did the out and the first part of the loop, and got back to base at 4.25 miles.
Saw a couple road signs to mark start and end of uphill strides, and ran the first stride. Hmm, that's close to 100m than 50m. Oh, well. I'm in a groove, just run the strides. Lost count, wasn't sure if I'd run 3 or 4; so ran one last stride before going into a jog to the port-a-pot. Review after the fact revealed that I ran 5 strides. It won't kill me.
Pacing 15 miles on Saturday will bring the week in around 52 miles. That's okay, I think; but it's a good thing I chopped a mile off my runs today, yesterday, and Monday. 55 miles would likely be too many to build to this week. Maybe next week.
In other news, manually setting my max HR on the watch fixed the HR zone calculations for today's running.
Joke of the day: Garmin knows I was born in 1955. It knows my height and my weight. It knows I am male. It has an awful lot of my pace and HR data to look at. And it still pops out these predicted race times:
I understand the economic incentive to flatter me with fast predictions; but this is beyond flattery and into the comical. That projected marathon time would put me into Wave 1, Corral 1 at Boston - where I would be trampled by the people who belong there. And Garmin has my PR 10K at 40:12, because of when I pressed stop at Dedham; what kind of idiot algorithm says I can run a 10K 6 minutes faster than a PR that the program ought to know?
2017 races:
January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY)
June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Rochester, NY)
June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY)
September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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May 1- Rest
May 2- 14.2
May 3- Rest
May 4- 14.5
May 5- 18.8
May 6- 8
May 7- 23.3
May 8-Rest
May 9- 15.7
May 10- Rest
May 11- 15.7
110.2/300km
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5/1 - 4.6 run + 4.8 walk
5/2 - 1.0 run + 7.1 walk
5/3 - 5.1 run + 3.9 walk
5/4 - 0.0 run + 5.1 walk
5/5 - 5.2 run + 4.8 walk
5/6 - 5.1 run + 1.8 walk
5/7 - 0.5 run + 5.6 walk
5/8 - 5.1 run + 3.8 walk
5/9 - 0.0 run + 5.8 walk
5/10 - 4.6 run + 5.9 walk
5/11 - 5.0 run + 5.5 walk
Totals so far - 36.2 run + 54.1 walk = 90.3 miles
A good run today, even if my legs felt a bit heavy. I'm not sure what I'll do tomorrow morning, need to see how my hip is feeling. If it's iffy then I plan to do some strength training.
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May goal....50 miles
May 4...3.66 miles
May 6...13.1 miles (Indianapolis mini-marathon), average pace at 12:24, av. max heart rate at 90%.
May 7....3 miles (recovery run)
May 8....8 miles (Monon Trail).... average pace at 11:52, average max heart rate at 86%.
May 11...3.06 miles (rolling hills program on the treadmill) average max heart rate at 83%. pace at 13:02.
Total: 30.02 miles
2017 races....5/6 Indianapolis mini-marathon....completed.
5/20..Geist Reservoir Half Marathon
Not feeling it today. Very tired after working all night. Drove straight home, took a melatonin and slept until 6 p.m. The only thing that got me out of the door tonight was knowing that I couldn't do another workout until Sunday.
The gym was moderately full, about 10 people in the weight lifting part of the gym, and the rest stair climbing or on the treadmill.
My heart rate shot up after 30 seconds on the treadmill. It started normalizing after about 30 minutes, which was encouraging. Not too bad for someone who really didn't want to be there. Legs felt great...head wasn't into it tonight.
Tonight I decided to start lifting weights again. It was a short 15 minute workout, concentrating on shoulders. It felt good to at least start lifting again. I have clearly lost a lot of strength in upper body.
Noted that I gained 7 pounds since January. The main thing that I changed was no longer lifting weights at the gym. I also give in to work sabotage although I have been doing better this year. Will see what happens. My plan is to lift again 3 x per week.
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This is why I always wear sunglasses! Sometimes I switch to the yellow or clear lenses but I always wear them!amymoreorless wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
@amymoreorless I don't know what I hate more the bugs in my mouth or up my nose ha ha
I had one kill itself once by flying into my eyeball. I had to run I think around the last .5 mile of my run with it there, before I had access to a clean tissue from my car to get it out. I will take a bug in the mouth or the nose any day of the week over having a repeat of that experience
@KatieJane83 You win! Eyeball bugs are much worse! I am now inspired to wear sunglasses on my next run instead of my usual visor.
On the pooping issue - It isn't a problem on every run but there have been many a time that I have been oh so thankful for the full on bathrooms on the trail I run!
I have not run in 2 days - need to fit it in tomorrow... yesterday was a planned rest day and I was exhausted all day. I fell asleep on the couch at 4pm and my husband woke me at 6pm or I probably would have slept through until morning. Today was a bit better but work got in the way of my run
I will be very sore tomorrow from strength training tonight but I will not let it keep me from running!
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On the topic of being slow in warmer temps, that's a very real thing. Your pace will be slower and slower the warmer it gets. As summer keeps coming on and it gets warmer and warmer, expect to get more and more slow. If you try to push to maintain your pace you are making the effort more strenuous, as if you were running longer/further, making you more tired. Run by time@effort as it warms up, not distance@pace.
There is a thing called heat acclamation, but it does not mean you get the same pace you had in early Spring, or even feel all that good about running in the heat. Running in the heat sucks, plain and simple. What heat acclamation does though is make it a little less sucky, and when temps start cooling down in the fall all of the sudden you are no longer slowed down, and as long as you trained and adapted all summer you will be running faster and easier than in the Spring (as long as it's not a hot fall day, those are also slowish). Just don't expect a summer full of runs as glorious as the ones in March and April.
This article describes what happens a bit better, although it may mislead you into believing you can run at 100% full speed in 90+ degree temps after just a couple weeks. Don't fall for that. You're gonna be slower in that heat. Especially if there is humidity, sweating doesn't help much in humidity.
http://running.competitor.com/2014/07/training/heat-acclimatization-for-runners_120358 -
09/05 3.53 miles
10/05 3.59 miles
11/05 3.56 miles
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thanks to all for telling me to rest -
good news is I am feeling better (despite having had a pretty bad few nights of sleep lately - partly due to physical discomfort and partly through my brain working overtime planning holidays camping in my car and working the logistics of folding the seats down to make a bed AND get my bike in it as well!!)
But I'm still really surprised how wiped I've been this week. I need to find a way of adequately recovering so that whilst I may not be able to RUN after an event, I can at least do some other forms of gentle exercise. Perhaps in time I will get used to the effects of a race and feel less shattered after.
I'm planning on a bit less running for the time being, and am focusing on strength training for the next 12 weeks plus, I am hoping this will translate into better body strength to run. I'll still check in here for accountability, and have another half coming up at the end of July.
Plus I'm going on holiday in the next couple of weeks and I know none of you would want to miss out on photos of trail runs on a small Italian island
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@RespectTheKitty - lol, yes, this is quite a conversation! Only runners really get it. I have had to go back home or stop at port-a-potties myself. When school is out and I'm not running at 4:30am, I go a route outside my neighborhood and I pass by my veterinarians office. They have nice bathrooms right by the door - before you get to the reception area. So I have gone in there several times. I figured with what I've paid them over the past 25 years for the care of 5 dogs, I deserve it!
@rusgolden - exactly what @_nikkiwolf_ and @WhatMeRunning said. I always get so excited for the couple months of cooler weather we have in Central Florida, or when I travel somewhere cooler because my speed goes up quite a bit. The heat/humidity is just awful for speed. I try to tell myself it is making me stronger, but some days I just grumble about it.
@HonuNui - wore my new "sunscreen shirt" while cycling on Wednesday night. It was SO hot out - about 85 with high humidity. Before we left I started thinking this is not going to work - and everyone was sleeveless but me. But once we started cycling it wasn't bad. And I felt so good knowing my arms were protected and the sunscreen wasn't just melting away. My face is so covered in it, people say "did you rub in your sunscreen?!" Still haven't been good about my legs, but I'm working on it.
Had a nice little run this morning. Speaking of heat, when I first walked out I was aghast at the humidity. But every time I was going a certain direction -- I don't do directions - but let's say it was North/South -- it would feel much cooler. Then the East/West would be so hot. What the heck? I guess it was the slightest breeze, although I felt no breeze. So I finally decided, duh... just don't turn, just go back and forth the cooler way! If someone tells me "head north" or some other direction, they may as well say go blindfolded. I have no sense of E/W/N/S -- only if it is sunrise or sunset, then I will know!
5/1 - 4 miles + strength training
5/2 - 3.5 miles
5/3 - 21 miles cycling
5/4 - 5 miles + strength training
5/5 - rest day
5/6 - 34 miles cycling
5/7 - 43 miles cycling
5/8 - 4.6 miles + strength training
5/9 - rest day
5/10 - 4.5 miles + cycling 21 miles
5/11 - strength training
5/12 - 4.6 miles
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5/1- 8.1
5/2- 4.6
5/3-9
5/4- REST
5/5- 5.7
5/6-20.1
5/7- 5
5/8- 8.2
5/9- 4.7
5/10- 10
5/11- REST
5/12- 5.7
Total: 81.1
May Goal: Get through most of the last 5 weeks before taper healthy
Nominal mileage goal: 220 Miles.
Today's notes: Today's assignment, as per usual, was 5 miles at E and the 4 strides.
The run went well, and I managed to run 5.1 miles in 48:42, for an average pace of 9:33, and with a HR of 147, so a VERY solid z2 average. Strides were pretty good too, they juet wore me out, as usual, because going balls to the walls for 0.1 miles seems to hit me pretty hard, even with the 1 minute recovery in between. Still, I feel pretty good today, and I'm looking forward to adding another 20 miles tomorrow.
@MobyCarp The Garmin race predictor always makes me smile a little. The ONLY predicted pace I MIGHT be able to do, if I trained for it, is the 5k, and even that one is a major stretch. The rest are just silly, like 10 minutes faster than my current PR for 10k, and almost 30 minutes faster on HM.
Have a Runderful day all!
2017 Races
6/16- William A Irvin 5k
6/17- Grandma's Marathon (Full!)
8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
10/21 Wild Duluth 50k<- yeah, I'm crazy enough to go for it
11/23- TBD 5k Turkey Trot5 -
This morning felt a tad cooler, and so my run was at an easy pace for the first 15 miles, and then at a little above MP for the last five. Of course, the wind decided to pick up the pace at around mile 15 as well, and so I was running into headwinds for the last part of the run, and boy did those last two miles feel brutal. My poor legs pretty much hate me right now...but don't worry legs, next week is a cutback week.
01 - 13.50
02 - 10.58
03 - 13.49
04 - 9.80
05 - 20.14
08 - 12.99
09 - 9.77
10 - 13.42
11 - 5.69
12 - 20.28
Total: 129.66 / 225 miles
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@garygse your mileage is insane, and I mean that in the BEST possible way. At this rate you're could be closer to 250/260 by the end of the month.0
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Thanks! I just love running distance, lol.MNLittleFinn wrote: »@garygse your mileage is insane, and I mean that in the BEST possible way. At this rate you're could be closer to 250/260 by the end of the month.
But next week's planned cutback will put the brakes on the mileage. And that's a good thing; rest and recovery is very much needed!
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