Trying to gain weight sucks
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »kaykay6676 wrote: »Mines 130 I believe. I haven't tried the shake yet because I just got the powder for it. I also just got all my weight and stuff for working out. Now I just need to get me a blender so I can actually make the shake. Lol. But I am eating sooo much more. Still could probably eat more. But it's pretty hard. I eat lots of chicken. Lmfao. And burgers. Also have cliff bars and almonds and stuff throughout the day as snacks. And I only drink water now. Might try infused water. Stopped drinking soda and stuff cuz I feel like that's what always made me tired and stuff. But I dropped down to 81 last week and then back up to 83 this week. I did just get taking of the drop *kitten* so I was told that my body could be trying to get use to it and that's why my weights fluctuating so much. But I don't know if that's true. I made another appointment so I'm going to the doctor Wednesday to see if they missed anything. Definitely not giving up yet! I'm gonna get there.
Protein powder plus full cream milk doesn't require a blender. Drink that instead of water.
Yep a shaker bottle works great.2 -
You can my excess weight
Best wishes in finding what works best for you x2 -
Fill up a water bottle in half with milk and a scoop of the powder. Close the lid and shake the *kitten* out of it until the powder chunks are soaked up by the milk. Pour more milk in to the bottle to within a quarter inch of the top, seal again, and shake. Blender-less protein shake.1
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Gatorade instead of water when working out.1
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Yes, I'm the same way. I had ice cream and chocolate cake over the weekend, and other really high calorie foods, yet still lost weight. You'll have to track, like others have said and what you said you are going to do.
I started tracking and realized it was below maintenance.
As a last resort, I'll have a mass gainer shake, which you could always make at home, but I had leftover mass gainer powder that's about to expire so I thought I might as well.
Whole milk also helps, drinking that once or twice or even combining it with other things. Or chocolate milk.
The easiest thing is eating very high calories when you're hungry. I kinda of have to force myself to eat, and that's easy when it's something high calorie, such as things high in carbs/fat. For example, I ate two tacos and beans at Torchy's Tacos (wrangler, ranch hand, and black beans), but since they were high calorie foods, it ended up being 1500 calories. It's pretty easy with fast food, since it's small portions, but packed with high calories. That meal was also 88 grams of protein, so even good for building muscle and it's filling since it's high in everything (carbs, protein, fat). Ha3 -
I wanted a blender to make any shakes. I got one today. Working on my shake right now. It's not very good. Haha! To much peanut butter for my liking.2
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But it's 1043 calories I believe. At least that's what I added up. Lol.4
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kaykay6676 wrote: »But it's 1043 calories I believe. At least that's what I added up. Lol.
@kaykay6676 it sounds like you are heading in the right direction. When I eat all I want of Low carb High fat I have a hard time gaining weight I have found. While everyone needs some healthy fats you may make High Carb and Higher protein type macro your WOE for a while.
Best of success on getting more calories of the type that works best for your body.2 -
With every shake that you make take note of what you want to try next time. The next shake may be half the PB. You are more likely to keep eating it if you like it.2
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kaykay6676 wrote: »I wanted a blender to make any shakes. I got one today. Working on my shake right now. It's not very good. Haha! To much peanut butter for my liking.
Too much peanut butter? I don't understand.
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VintageFeline wrote: »Most protein powders are only about 100 calories a scoop so for them to be useful in any way in this scenario you're going to have to add stuff like whole milk, peanut butter, peanut butter, peanut butter.
What happened to the shake upthread you were going to try? Have you tried tracking and eating more at all?
Actually, most are more like 130-200 and if you actually weight them, you find out a scoop weighs more than it says. I just looked up this one and it says 180 per scoop so probably more like 200.
Off topic a bit but the two powders I have used are 100 calories for a 25g serving/scoop (I don't use the scoop but tested it and with both of them the way I used the scoop came out spot on.
So maybe it's just a larger serving making the calorie difference? These were both whey FYI.0 -
its simple to gain, up your fat n carbs and go over your daily calorie intake, 500 over daily intake, intake is bodyweight in pounds x 20ish rough estimate, adjust towards what works for you1
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OP-I am loathe to mention this as I am not a doctor and I really hate when people suggest that others may have a medical/emotional problem -but disordered eating can cause hot flashes. In addition to hormone imbalance, they can also be caused by vitamin deficiency, depression, anxiety, and anemia, and then on to rather serious things that are rather unlikely given statements you have made regarding your perception of yourself.
You need a doc that will look at the whole picture. Emotional health and physical health go hand in hand. Based on what you have said, while hot flashes may not be out of the realm of possibility for a 19 year old, they are not normal (especially for your case in my non-medical opinion) and could be indicative of an underlying issue.
83 lbs at 4"11 should have given your doctor pause based on what you have said about happiness with your self and body. I am not sure that increased food intake will fix your issue.
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OP-I am loathe to mention this as I am not a doctor and I really hate when people suggest that others may have a medical/emotional problem -but disordered eating can cause hot flashes. In addition to hormone imbalance, they can also be caused by vitamin deficiency, depression, anxiety, and anemia, and then on to rather serious things that are rather unlikely given statements you have made regarding your perception of yourself.
You need a doc that will look at the whole picture. Emotional health and physical health go hand in hand. Based on what you have said, while hot flashes may not be out of the realm of possibility for a 19 year old, they are not normal (especially for your case in my non-medical opinion) and could be indicative of an underlying issue.
83 lbs at 4"11 should have given your doctor pause based on what you have said about happiness with your self and body. I am not sure that increased food intake will fix your issue.
Good luck!
I was getting "hot flashes" and excessive head sweating. Did a round of blood work - everything including test levels. Found out I was deficient in D - strange since I drink about a gallon of milk a day. Doctor told me that as we get older we start to have trouble absorbing it. Ended up on prescription strength D2 pills and over the counter D3. Hot flashes resolved as did the excess head sweating and maybe coincidentally - I was able to break through a lifting plateau I had been struggling with.4 -
kaykay6676 wrote: »Im not trying to eat healthy at all. Lol. I don't eat healthy. I should probably eat healthier. But that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to gain weight and do it anyway I can. So I'm going to give it a try. Even if it's filling. It's not like I need to take it all in one drink. Trust me. I'll make it happen. And that's not the only thing I'll bring drinking with lots of calories. That was just one of my ideas I wanna try. Because it's 1,000 right there. Done. I want to gain weight so I'm going to do what it takes. Even if I have to force down a shake. Haha! I'm gonna make it happen. Not trying to sounds rude or anything. I'm not disagree with you. I mean it probably is filling like you're saying. I haven't tried it yet. I need to get the stuff for it. But I wanna give it a try. I was gonna try and drink it before I workout but Idk if I should do it afterwards instead. I just wanna be happy with myself again. I can't even look in the mirror right now I'm so disgusted with myself. Like seriously.. I'm sick of putting myself down all the time. So if it takes lots of filling shakes to get me to where I wanna be then I'll do it. Becuase I can't keep living my life being unhappy with the way I look.
if that is the case then go all in with bagels, ice cream, oreos,etc..
two servings of most ice cream is 500 calories and easy to get down....1 -
kaykay6676 wrote: »What should I eat or drink to give me more energy? I'm always tired and I hate it.
caffeine..0 -
Eating "more" may not be the problem. Just try like someone said eating calorie dense foods, and that way you get more calories and nutrients for the same amount of food. Sometimes you just cant eat more without feeling sick so maybe just switch it up a little.1
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Caffeine makes me tired! And thank you everyone. I appreciate it!0
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kaykay6676 wrote: »Is it just me or does it seem like trying to gain weight is way harder then trying to loose it?
I totally understand where you are coming from. I have multiple sclerosis related gastroparesis and I have a constant battle everyday to take in enough calories to meet the needs for whatever I'm burning and have some left over to try to gain weight.
I'm 5 foot 3 and in 2000 I was very happy being a big beautiful woman at 220 lb. The day I lost so much weight I couldn't shop and Lane Bryant anymore I cried.
My weight has been as low as 95 pounds and right now I'm really proud of the fact I've made it to 112.1.
We count my gains and losses by the ounce every week and my nutritionist managed plan is for 6 meals a day, 350 calorie 7 - 10 g of protein, as high in good fats as you can manage on a dairy-free vegetarian allergic to shellfish diet while also being a low income #spoonie.
It got particularly brutal after the New Hampshire taxpayers decided to no longer cover the special Ensure Enlive (350 Cal, 20g protein) that I'm supposed to have three times a day.
Then because I have problems with swallowing All my table food has to be puree or find dice. (Are you ableed folks out there? that means quarter inch by quarter inch by quarter inch pieces) when you add in the 22 oz of water I'm supposed to drink a day I spend upwards of 5 of the 18 hours a day I am awake with food or water in my mouth.
As you might imagine it makes a little difficult to talk on the phone which is rather ironic because both my primary care doctor office and the Medicaid transportation service that I used to have wheelchair van cart me to my appointments only work by being called on the telephone.
So kiddo you're not the only one.
You definitely should get to a doctor if you haven't already because it is highly unusual if you are eating more than thousand calories a day and your height is 5-3 or less to be losing so much weight. But you're not alone and since I happen to be the end of pending old Catholic who's also a lay Franciscan religious I said a prayer for you. And don't worry if you don't believe I do that's enough.
Whatever ends up being the solution to your problems with gaining weight I hope that it goes well for you.
Everybody else? Just remember that for every one of you on MyFitnessPal because you want to have a really trimmed and cut abs there's probably one or two of us out here tracking every last calorie every last bit of exercise because our lives depend on it.
We could use your support and yeah I'm talking about giving your a local and national politicians a call and having a conversation with them about what they're doing to help people who can't use their food stamps for the ensure because it's not food, but can't use their Medicaid or their Medicare to pay for their ensure because it's not considered medicine.
If enough of you "ableed" speak up maybe some of us who we really do need help can get it.
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kaykay6676 wrote: »I am trying. But I don't really have a way to get good groceries right now without a car so I kinda just have to live off what's a around me in the middle of nowhere until I get my vehicle fixed. it's rough. But I am trying. So because of you guys telling me that I should really just try eating more im take you all up on that and I'm gonna look some stuff up and find healthy food with good calories and see what I can find around me. Because I want to gain weight and I want to be happy with myself so I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
And here we see the other reason why there are people in America today who are rapidly losing too much weight.
I ran a nonprofit for several years that had a transportation service. Every month on food stamp day we would feel the cars we had taking people to and from the grocery store so that they didn't have to stop at Cumberland Farms or the little gas station places. Every month I see more and more people buying their food at the dollar store without even realizing and not only are the ingredients off and poor quality but they're often much higher and sodium and every month the quantity in the Box goes down even though the price stays the same.
Anyone who's experiencing unwanted weight loss would benefit from carefully looking at the boxes and the packages of the food that they buy because the Hamburger Helper kit that you used to add one pound of Hamburg to in the 1970s and it could easily be divided into four individual servings has now been shrunk to barely making two servings. Because I'm on fixed-income I have to carefully track the actual unit cost of everything I buy. I'm in New Hampshire and the overall price of food here went up 30% last year. You may be buying all the same things each week and the prices may not be radically different but if you compare the size of the amount of food inside the container with what you were getting in that same container a year ago quite often you'll find it's a lot less.
Food scarcity is a real problem in America today. If your food budget was $100 a week in 2015 you probably needed to spend $130 a week last year and you are probably going to need to spend about $150 a week right now to get the same amount of food. Americans who happen to be wealthy enough to be able to just go through the store picking whatever they want and then barely even glancing at the receipt as they finish and leave the store don't even realize what's happened. It's only those of us who have the same amount of money every month gradually buying less and less food that see firsthand how the price of food has been skyrocketing for over 2 years.
Add to that the increasing number of Superstore grocery centers that are located in areas that are often not reachable by mass transit and all it takes is there a family to have to choose between rent and a car payment for malnutrition and hunger to begin stalking their home.
If you absolutely must buy your food from convenience stores gas stations and other such locations call your local Community Action Program for help. More and more food pantries are ending up out of reach of everyday Americans because they are located too far away to walk to.
Community action programs sometimes can help at least give you advice on how to stretch your dollar as far as you can in less than perfect food shopping environments.
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I agree that it's difficult but I find the mental side difficult to eat more than you want and even when you're not hungry. I'll admit I find it very difficult but I find telling someone that outloud and being able to reason why it's in your benefit to gain weight it can become slightly easier, maybe you should look at what mental barriers you have to gaining weight and tackle them too1
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kaykay6676 wrote: »Caffeine makes me tired! And thank you everyone. I appreciate it!
I can drink coffee in the morning for an energy boost. I can also drink coffee in the evening and fall right to sleep1 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »kaykay6676 wrote: »I'm 19 years old. I'm not a child. I reacted that way because I'm sick of people saying that. It's kinda rude. Especially when you don't even know the person. So like I said... Maybe I do need to eat more. But don't be rude about it. Im here for help. Not drama.
You're right. We don't know you. We don't know your activity level, anything about your personal life, your food intake, your medical history.
What we do know is that to gain weight, people need to eat in a caloric surplus. SIMPLE. You may have a medical condition that means your caloric needs are more than a normal person, but you don't know that so you can't expect us to either. Telling you that you're not eating enough and that you need to eat more is not rude. It's the answer.
Okay, I haven't finished the entire thread, but I did want to address this, because it is not always that simple. As a recently diagnosed diabetic, in the month before my diagnosis I lost 25 lbs while eating an entire basket full of leftover Halloween candy - I wasn't tracking at the time but my guess would be I was eating 4000 cal / day while entirely sedentary, and I felt like I was starving to death, because I was.
It does not matter how many calories you take in, if your body is not functioning to use those calories. In diabetes, there's either no insulin to turn sugars into energy (type 1) or the body doesn't use insulin properly (type 2). You can eat all the sugar in the universe, and you will still lose weight, because those sugars will remain in your blood until they are excreted by your kidneys. There are other medical conditions which cause weight loss, diabetes is just one.
It's very disturbing that a doctor would ignore sudden weight loss in a patient who claims to be eating normally, because that is often one of the first symptoms of diabetes.1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »kaykay6676 wrote: »I'm 19 years old. I'm not a child. I reacted that way because I'm sick of people saying that. It's kinda rude. Especially when you don't even know the person. So like I said... Maybe I do need to eat more. But don't be rude about it. Im here for help. Not drama.
You're right. We don't know you. We don't know your activity level, anything about your personal life, your food intake, your medical history.
What we do know is that to gain weight, people need to eat in a caloric surplus. SIMPLE. You may have a medical condition that means your caloric needs are more than a normal person, but you don't know that so you can't expect us to either. Telling you that you're not eating enough and that you need to eat more is not rude. It's the answer.
Okay, I haven't finished the entire thread, but I did want to address this, because it is not always that simple. As a recently diagnosed diabetic, in the month before my diagnosis I lost 25 lbs while eating an entire basket full of leftover Halloween candy - I wasn't tracking at the time but my guess would be I was eating 4000 cal / day while entirely sedentary, and I felt like I was starving to death, because I was.
It does not matter how many calories you take in, if your body is not functioning to use those calories. In diabetes, there's either no insulin to turn sugars into energy (type 1) or the body doesn't use insulin properly (type 2). You can eat all the sugar in the universe, and you will still lose weight, because those sugars will remain in your blood until they are excreted by your kidneys. There are other medical conditions which cause weight loss, diabetes is just one.
It's very disturbing that a doctor would ignore sudden weight loss in a patient who claims to be eating normally, because that is often one of the first symptoms of diabetes.
Did you miss the bits about medical conditions, and if she really was eating an excessive amount of calories but still losing weight that getting to a Dr. to demand more tests and answers would be a grand idea?1 -
I think whichever way your metabolism is built, going against your spontaneous tendencies is difficult.
I gain weight just reading a cookbook, and its all fat, not the kind of weight you want.2 -
If you would like to gain weight, at any age, it's really simple: cut out all cardio, lift heavy, never above 4-reps. 3 times a week max! Combine that with 2,500 kcal's, 60% carb, 30% protein, 10% fat, you'll put on ~4 - 5 lbs a week. This isn't rocket science y'all.1
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »kaykay6676 wrote: »I'm 19 years old. I'm not a child. I reacted that way because I'm sick of people saying that. It's kinda rude. Especially when you don't even know the person. So like I said... Maybe I do need to eat more. But don't be rude about it. Im here for help. Not drama.
You're right. We don't know you. We don't know your activity level, anything about your personal life, your food intake, your medical history.
What we do know is that to gain weight, people need to eat in a caloric surplus. SIMPLE. You may have a medical condition that means your caloric needs are more than a normal person, but you don't know that so you can't expect us to either. Telling you that you're not eating enough and that you need to eat more is not rude. It's the answer.
Okay, I haven't finished the entire thread, but I did want to address this, because it is not always that simple. As a recently diagnosed diabetic, in the month before my diagnosis I lost 25 lbs while eating an entire basket full of leftover Halloween candy - I wasn't tracking at the time but my guess would be I was eating 4000 cal / day while entirely sedentary, and I felt like I was starving to death, because I was.
It does not matter how many calories you take in, if your body is not functioning to use those calories. In diabetes, there's either no insulin to turn sugars into energy (type 1) or the body doesn't use insulin properly (type 2). You can eat all the sugar in the universe, and you will still lose weight, because those sugars will remain in your blood until they are excreted by your kidneys. There are other medical conditions which cause weight loss, diabetes is just one.
It's very disturbing that a doctor would ignore sudden weight loss in a patient who claims to be eating normally, because that is often one of the first symptoms of diabetes.
Did you miss the bits about medical conditions, and if she really was eating an excessive amount of calories but still losing weight that getting to a Dr. to demand more tests and answers would be a grand idea?
I was addressing the specific fallacy in your post in particular, that to gain weight all that is required is to eat a surplus of calories - simple - and that although she might have a medical condition which made her caloric needs more than those of a normal person, but eating more than that would still cause her to gain weight. Because with diabetes, no amount of calories will fix the issue, as long as those calories are not being turned into something that can be used by the body. Regardless of this poster's specific situation, the statement that eating at a surplus will always cause weight gain is not truthful and needed to be addressed.1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »kaykay6676 wrote: »I'm 19 years old. I'm not a child. I reacted that way because I'm sick of people saying that. It's kinda rude. Especially when you don't even know the person. So like I said... Maybe I do need to eat more. But don't be rude about it. Im here for help. Not drama.
You're right. We don't know you. We don't know your activity level, anything about your personal life, your food intake, your medical history.
What we do know is that to gain weight, people need to eat in a caloric surplus. SIMPLE. You may have a medical condition that means your caloric needs are more than a normal person, but you don't know that so you can't expect us to either. Telling you that you're not eating enough and that you need to eat more is not rude. It's the answer.
Okay, I haven't finished the entire thread, but I did want to address this, because it is not always that simple. As a recently diagnosed diabetic, in the month before my diagnosis I lost 25 lbs while eating an entire basket full of leftover Halloween candy - I wasn't tracking at the time but my guess would be I was eating 4000 cal / day while entirely sedentary, and I felt like I was starving to death, because I was.
It does not matter how many calories you take in, if your body is not functioning to use those calories. In diabetes, there's either no insulin to turn sugars into energy (type 1) or the body doesn't use insulin properly (type 2). You can eat all the sugar in the universe, and you will still lose weight, because those sugars will remain in your blood until they are excreted by your kidneys. There are other medical conditions which cause weight loss, diabetes is just one.
It's very disturbing that a doctor would ignore sudden weight loss in a patient who claims to be eating normally, because that is often one of the first symptoms of diabetes.
Did you miss the bits about medical conditions, and if she really was eating an excessive amount of calories but still losing weight that getting to a Dr. to demand more tests and answers would be a grand idea?
I was addressing the specific fallacy in your post in particular, that to gain weight all that is required is to eat a surplus of calories - simple - and that although she might have a medical condition which made her caloric needs more than those of a normal person, but eating more than that would still cause her to gain weight. Because with diabetes, no amount of calories will fix the issue, as long as those calories are not being turned into something that can be used by the body. Regardless of this poster's specific situation, the statement that eating at a surplus will always cause weight gain is not truthful and needed to be addressed.
A surplus is needed. That is 100% required. But if your body doesnt have the ability to convert food to energy, then it actually isn't counting against your intake. Calories in is defined by calories comsumed that can be metabolized into energy.1 -
JusticejamesbMBA wrote: »If you would like to gain weight, at any age, it's really simple: cut out all cardio, lift heavy, never above 4-reps. 3 times a week max! Combine that with 2,500 kcal's, 60% carb, 30% protein, 10% fat, you'll put on ~4 - 5 lbs a week. This isn't rocket science y'all.
That is terrible advice. Peoples calories should be aligned to them. Your advices puts me in a deficit while it would be very aggressive for others trying to gain and would cause excissive fat gains.
Also, why would you limit reps to 4? Are you trying to limit hypertrophy which causes muscle growth?5
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