Culking Bishes!!! Winter2016 / Spring 2017

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  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I was doing that for awhile, but I struggled on low carb days (~110g) due to the lack of volume. But I definitely loved the high carb days and even struggled to eat that many carbs (~320g). And held protein at 175g
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I was doing that for awhile, but I struggled on low carb days (~110g) due to the lack of volume. But I definitely loved the high carb days and even struggled to eat that many carbs (~320g). And held protein at 175g

    That was my only real concern. My low day's would be sub 100g and surplus day's around 650g of carbs. Mentally I can deal with it but unsure about physically. Will give it a go and see.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I was doing that for awhile, but I struggled on low carb days (~110g) due to the lack of volume. But I definitely loved the high carb days and even struggled to eat that many carbs (~320g). And held protein at 175g

    That was my only real concern. My low day's would be sub 100g and surplus day's around 650g of carbs. Mentally I can deal with it but unsure about physically. Will give it a go and see.

    I think part of my problem is I dont tend to eat a lot of green leafy veggies (but love fruit), so it was a bit difficult for me to find the right combination of foods to keep with it.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I was doing that for awhile, but I struggled on low carb days (~110g) due to the lack of volume. But I definitely loved the high carb days and even struggled to eat that many carbs (~320g). And held protein at 175g

    That was my only real concern. My low day's would be sub 100g and surplus day's around 650g of carbs. Mentally I can deal with it but unsure about physically. Will give it a go and see.

    I think part of my problem is I dont tend to eat a lot of green leafy veggies (but love fruit), so it was a bit difficult for me to find the right combination of foods to keep with it.

    I know many people are the same. Strangely I'm not a big fruit eater and would rather have a bowl of leafy greens or broccoli.
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    edited May 2017
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I am kind of doing a variation of calorie cycling right now for my cut, I have two surplus days, three average days and two lower days. Right now my lower days aren't as low as they should be, I just can't get lower than 2K so I have to work with it. I have no idea about the supercompensation though.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    I need to keep spare pants at work_ I'm so distracted by my illfitting pants and how uncomfortable I am- I can't even work. This is effing stupid.

    #crycry. I'm over emotional about what's going on today. Seriously- being a chick sucks sometimes.

    Cardio makes me want to cry at least once a week.
    Srs.
    We whine a lot when we are on the stairmaster. But thankfully I have a cardio buddy- so we get usually a minimum of 25-35 min in- which is on average higher than I can go alone- usually my max is about 30 min. but we've been upwards of an hour on there- so team cardio buddy. ;)

    but- it still sucks a**
    bioklutz wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    I need to keep spare pants at work_ I'm so distracted by my illfitting pants and how uncomfortable I am- I can't even work. This is effing stupid.

    #crycry. I'm over emotional about what's going on today. Seriously- being a chick sucks sometimes.

    Last week I was really mad at my uterus. F hormones was said a little too often! I just got angry - no crying.

    yeah- I'm not a fan- I am bipolar about it- hate flip flops with wanting to cry. Seriously- hormones are the worst.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I am kind of doing a variation of calorie cycling right now for my cut, I have two surplus days, three average days and two lower days. Right now my lower days aren't as low as they should be, I just can't get lower than 2K so I have to work with it. I have no idea about the supercompensation though.

    We've all been there. Out of interest, what are you calories and average deficit?
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I'm 3 days in to a 12 day keto/RFL "experiment". Eating low calories/carbs is surprisingly easy with more fats and plenty of voluminous vegetables.

    I am looking forward to re-feeding and not feeling flat and stringy constantly though. Weight is hovering around 220lbs and I'd imagine I'll be down under 215 by next Saturday (approximately 9% bodyfat).

    Do many people cycle calories and carbohydrates drastically through a week? I'm considering 3 surplus day's (lifting), 2 maintenance days (cardio) and 2 low calorie/low carb days (rest). Will be roughly at maintenance before increasing lifting day calories for a nice long lean bulk. Anyone more knowledgable than me know if one could deplete glycogen enough in 36 hours to take advantage of supercompensation?

    I am kind of doing a variation of calorie cycling right now for my cut, I have two surplus days, three average days and two lower days. Right now my lower days aren't as low as they should be, I just can't get lower than 2K so I have to work with it. I have no idea about the supercompensation though.

    We've all been there. Out of interest, what are you calories and average deficit?

    Right now my average (or at least what I am trying to aim for ) is 2500 cals, deficit of about -15% or so.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Camping did me in. Scale going in the wrong direction - up 5 pounds! It's time to buckle down!
    heh- me to- I'm pretty sure even walking almost 20 miles around DC didn't mitigate all the damage I did this weekend. My best gray slacks are horribly unflattening today.
    sardelsa wrote: »
    @TresaAswegan looking great! Your muscle base is amazing

    Had kind of an extravagant weekend, so hopefully it didn't put too much of a dent in my cut. I really gotta buckle down here. Maybe more consistent logging of the foods is in order, urg.. :s
    heh Yeah- see above.
    me to- back on the case in a very very mean manner. I'm considering dropping calories 2000 seems to be too big for what I need- I haven't dropped enough fast enough- if it's a deficit at all- it's barely a deficit. :( womp womp.

    Me, too. I'm going to try to up the CO side first - ugh.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Looking good my friend!!!

    also- quad sweep is smexy smexy!!!
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Looking good my friend!!!

    also- quad sweep is smexy smexy!!!

    Agreed! Along with that #squatbooty!
  • AMSmit88
    AMSmit88 Posts: 100 Member
    Back from my holiday and a kilo up from before I left. Tried to keep it restrained but I just can't resist Mediterranean food! First morning back in the gym today though and I felt fricking strong again - refeed was clearly needed. Now back to it but slowly. Think I want to lose another 4kg but realise this is partly how I view myself in the mirror at play. Will take the cut slow and see how it goes, who knows, maybe I'll get that look I'm after sooner than I think?! #wishfulthinking

    ps @TresaAswegan looking awesome!
  • jdscrubs32
    jdscrubs32 Posts: 515 Member
    Back from my holiday and a kilo up from before I left. Tried to keep it restrained but I just can't resist Mediterranean food! First morning back in the gym today though and I felt fricking strong again - refeed was clearly needed. Now back to it but slowly. Think I want to lose another 4kg but realise this is partly how I view myself in the mirror at play. Will take the cut slow and see how it goes, who knows, maybe I'll get that look I'm after sooner than I think?! #wishfulthinking

    ps @TresaAswegan looking awesome!

    Yes Mediterranean food is hard to resist alright @anna_glassshoes . Was in Italy myself last week and like you, while I attempted to restrain myself, it didnt really work but I enjoyed all the delicious food immensely. Was up 1.5kg after it, a KG of which is nearly gone by now so like you will do a slow defluff (hate the word cutting)
  • AMSmit88
    AMSmit88 Posts: 100 Member
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    Back from my holiday and a kilo up from before I left. Tried to keep it restrained but I just can't resist Mediterranean food! First morning back in the gym today though and I felt fricking strong again - refeed was clearly needed. Now back to it but slowly. Think I want to lose another 4kg but realise this is partly how I view myself in the mirror at play. Will take the cut slow and see how it goes, who knows, maybe I'll get that look I'm after sooner than I think?! #wishfulthinking

    ps @TresaAswegan looking awesome!

    Yes Mediterranean food is hard to resist alright @anna_glassshoes . Was in Italy myself last week and like you, while I attempted to restrain myself, it didnt really work but I enjoyed all the delicious food immensely. Was up 1.5kg after it, a KG of which is nearly gone by now so like you will do a slow defluff (hate the word cutting)

    Lol I flippantly said I was cutting in the office one day when my manager commented on me not taking any of the usual office treats and the look of alarm on people's faces :s I just don't like saying 'dieting' either because then everyone wants to give you their woo advice.

    Yeah I'm not stressing about 1kg, like yours it will hopefully be just water weight and whoosh off pronto. Even if it doesn't, the boyfriend's mum's Maltese cooking made it totally worth it. Mediterranean mammas are such feeders :D
  • jdscrubs32
    jdscrubs32 Posts: 515 Member
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    Back from my holiday and a kilo up from before I left. Tried to keep it restrained but I just can't resist Mediterranean food! First morning back in the gym today though and I felt fricking strong again - refeed was clearly needed. Now back to it but slowly. Think I want to lose another 4kg but realise this is partly how I view myself in the mirror at play. Will take the cut slow and see how it goes, who knows, maybe I'll get that look I'm after sooner than I think?! #wishfulthinking

    ps @TresaAswegan looking awesome!

    Yes Mediterranean food is hard to resist alright @anna_glassshoes . Was in Italy myself last week and like you, while I attempted to restrain myself, it didnt really work but I enjoyed all the delicious food immensely. Was up 1.5kg after it, a KG of which is nearly gone by now so like you will do a slow defluff (hate the word cutting)

    Lol I flippantly said I was cutting in the office one day when my manager commented on me not taking any of the usual office treats and the look of alarm on people's faces :s I just don't like saying 'dieting' either because then everyone wants to give you their woo advice.

    Yeah I'm not stressing about 1kg, like yours it will hopefully be just water weight and whoosh off pronto. Even if it doesn't, the boyfriend's mum's Maltese cooking made it totally worth it. Mediterranean mammas are such feeders :D

    I'm surprised how much the water weight has whooshed off me in the space of a week which is great. I can see how using the word "cutting" would put the look of horror on peoples faces. I just dont like the word as it sounds so mechanical.

    While I didnt have any Mediterranean mammas feeding me, mores the pity, I was an Italian wedding where its all about the food and then some. You name it, I had it and it was delicious.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    Nearly doubled my sodium intake over the last 72 hours. I had been having some "blah" lifting and recovery days, and finally found out why. 115/71 BP, 30 minutes after a massive stim dose and an excessive salt day. I don't even want to know how low it was before.

    Anyway, as a result, picked up four pounds over said 72 hours, but I fully expect my trend line to smooth out once my body adjusts to the new quantities. Still have abs in the morning in spite of the water weight, so not even the first bit of worry over it.

    And everyone wonders why I am so data obsessed. xD
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    So finally had a second to take some pictures. There are more but this will do for now.
    I've eaten across the board significantly less than my alloted 2k this week and feel reasonable well. Not sure how long that will last.
    But.. Controlling fat and actually aiming for protein more I think is helping so on ward and downward? Whatever. Meandering progress I'd say but progress none the less. Lol yh2jibw9zwtd.jpg

    So freaking HAWT! Great work!
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    I started my cut yesterday. My PL meet was last Saturday. Weighed in at 176.4lb and my 7-day rolling average is 176.6. I was happy with my bulk and meet results. Gained about 16 pounds since Sept, some of which includes consistent creatine in the last 2 months. S: 337, B: 253, DL: 440. I'd like to compete Oct 28 under 165lb and match or beat my recent platform PRs.
    I gained about 2 inches on my waist. I haven't measured anything else but plan to take additional measurements and pictures tonight.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
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  • leajas1
    leajas1 Posts: 823 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    thanks lovey- now that I sat down and looked- I'm like- oh look- I have an actual a** again.
    And a waist.

    LOOK AT THAT. A WAIST.

    Yes, for sure! You're looking all hour glassy - very nice!
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    leajas1 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    thanks lovey- now that I sat down and looked- I'm like- oh look- I have an actual a** again.
    And a waist.

    LOOK AT THAT. A WAIST.

    Yes, for sure! You're looking all hour glassy - very nice!

    sometimes hour- gassy too.
    ;)

    lifts are feeling pretty solid except for the squat. Squat feels meh- but DL and bench are moving really well- so I'm pleased pleased pleased.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Got a lot going on there @psuLemon - hopefully you can get some rest and heal your arm.

    And heh- also - win for the barely fit in the pants!!! I mean- as long as it isn't fat LMAO.
    I ordered new pants- but unfortunately they aren't the yoga pants I wanted- so I'm going to take one of them back. I'll keep the other pair- so I have "real pants" (eye roll)
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