No Calorie Sodas and Weight
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HeidiGrrrl wrote: »This is how it works: Artificial sweeteners (not the natural no-calorie sweeteners) stimulate appetite and trigger the insulin response just as if you had eaten real sugar because they can still spike blood glucose. This is fact, not a biased study. When I switched to diet sodas I gained 30 pounds the first year without changing anything else in my diet. I only use natural non-calorie sweeteners, such as stevia and erythritol. That's why I only drink Zevia Soda, which is sweetened with stevia, as stevia does NOT spike blood glucose, thereby not triggering the insulin response. That being said, stevia CAN do it in some people who are sensitive to it.
Calories are NOT just calories, and eating a calorie deficit is NOT enough to help with weight loss. Initially it works, but this is why diets DON'T work. Constant calorie deficit cannot be maintained long-term, which is why most people regain the weight. What you eat is even more important than how much you eat because there are hormones at play. Hormones regulate weight loss/gain and appetite. This is why you can't just count calories. You have to control your hormones leptin and ghrelin via what you eat.
You can look that up, but go ahead and just listen to these armchair scientists who simply don't want to believe the studies done by actual scientists because they don't want to change their lifestyle permanently and give up not only the occasional Snickers bar, but every Snickers bar from here until the end of their lives.
1). No, artificial sweeteners do not trigger an insulin response...diabetics can drink diet soda...if they triggered an insulin response then diabetics would not be able to drink them. You didn't gain weight from drinking diet soda.
2). The only way you lose weight is with an energy (calorie) deficiency...you don't maintain a constant calorie deficit...you cut weight and when you're done you eat at maintenance. I lost 40 Lbs and I've kept it off for 4+ years.
3). Getting proper nutrition is important...nobody has said it isn't. The context of your diet as a whole is what is important...in the context of a nutritious diet, there's nothing wrong with a snickers.8 -
I like how some people are stating information like it's fact even though it's been proven time and time again that it's simply untrue.
Artificial sweeteners have zero physical impact on your body in terms of weight loss. Zero. None. Whether or not your brain gets triggered to desire sweets is another story. But if you simply drink diet soda and do not give into such cravings, you will see zero negative impact from the diet drink.6 -
You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.23 -
You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
That's exactly the point. They're neutral.
You could say the same for water.8 -
Actually, I'm less hungry on diet cola. I've gone from 45 BMI to 32.5 on diet cola. I have more energy (not a coffee drinker; not big on tea unless freezing or ill; don't eat chocolate regularly; diet cola is my caffeine source) and am able to stay up late and indulge my creative writing streak on diet cola.
Of course diet and exercise are the real reasons for weight loss, but diet cola helps me stick to the plan.3 -
Blah to all the research, for or against it.
Now if you're ordering diet soda to justify the extra large fries in the drive thru? Yep, it'll make you fat.6 -
You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
I'm an almost 40 year old stay at home mom of 3 kids, is that layman enough for you? My experience was that switching from regular soda to diet soda during my weight loss phase cut out calories and contributed to the calorie deficit that I needed, to go on and lose 50lbs. Simple as that.
Since then I've continued to drink diet soda because I enjoy it and it's calorie free, which means it has no impact on my maintenance calorie intake. I've learned how to be smart about how I use my calories and that's a big reason why I've been so successful at this whole thing long term.
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You're missing sarcasm Elle....
Picture ginormous person with a 2k value meal, and the diet Coke
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You're missing sarcasm Elle....
Picture ginormous person with a 2k value meal, and the diet Coke
Yeah, If they're daily allowance is 3500 for weight loss, that's a decent dinner.0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
That's exactly the point. They're neutral.
You could say the same for water.
Right.
So then it comes down to:
would you rather drink non diet soda and have to sacrifice the calories from something else?
would you rather not ever drink any soda at all?
or would you rather keep some soda in your diet but not waste calories on it.
I don't care that much about soda, but if you enjoy it (and I occasionally do), being able to enjoy diet versions makes it a lot easier for those of us who count calories (who are not who the studies address) to have some soda.2 -
You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
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You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
Did you actually read your linked article beyond the headline? Did you notice they say this is an observed conclusion and they do not provide any possible biological or even scientific reason as to why this is the case?
Did you actually read all the responses in this thread? Did you notice that we have provided numerous reasons why drinking diet soda could be correlated with not losing or even gaining weight?
Most people who are obese don't manage to lose weight, regardless of what they drink. If you are accurately counting your calories and stick to your calorie goal, whether you drink water or diet soda or unsweetened tea will NOT cause you to gain weight or stop you from losing weight. This is perfectly understandable to a lay-person - I am not a fitness model, personal trainer, scientist, or medical professional of any kind, and I managed to figure it out pretty quick
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Lol, pretty naive statement. That's like saying "The DMV is not directly involved in car accidents. However because they gave the license to the driver that caused the accident, they are involved non the less."You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
How much sense does that make?
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You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
Did you actually read your linked article beyond the headline? Did you notice they say this is an observed conclusion and they do not provide any possible biological or even scientific reason as to why this is the case?
Did you actually read all the responses in this thread? Did you notice that we have provided numerous reasons why drinking diet soda could be correlated with not losing or even gaining weight?
Most people who are obese don't manage to lose weight, regardless of what they drink. If you are accurately counting your calories and stick to your calorie goal, whether you drink water or diet soda or unsweetened tea will NOT cause you to gain weight or stop you from losing weight. This is perfectly understandable to a lay-person - I am not a fitness model, personal trainer, scientist, or medical professional of any kind, and I managed to figure it out pretty quick
Congratulations on figuring it out real quick.
I think I mentioned that diet soda is not directly responsible for gaining weight?
I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that.
So people that tend to drink diet soda
More likely overweight? Yes
Crave more sweets? Maybe
Eat more because of other factors? Maybe
I can say that people will lose weight if the count calories and are on a deficit, but there are some things that let people blow their calorie in take.
And it is chemical
You can choose to believe that or not6 -
Name one food or drink that's not chemically bonded at the molecular level? If nothing was "chemical" then it wouldn't need to be broken down by the stomach. Just absorbed as is.You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
Did you actually read your linked article beyond the headline? Did you notice they say this is an observed conclusion and they do not provide any possible biological or even scientific reason as to why this is the case?
Did you actually read all the responses in this thread? Did you notice that we have provided numerous reasons why drinking diet soda could be correlated with not losing or even gaining weight?
Most people who are obese don't manage to lose weight, regardless of what they drink. If you are accurately counting your calories and stick to your calorie goal, whether you drink water or diet soda or unsweetened tea will NOT cause you to gain weight or stop you from losing weight. This is perfectly understandable to a lay-person - I am not a fitness model, personal trainer, scientist, or medical professional of any kind, and I managed to figure it out pretty quick
Congratulations on figuring it out real quick.
I think I mentioned that diet soda is not directly responsible for gaining weight?
I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that.
So people that tend to drink diet soda
More likely overweight? Yes
Crave more sweets? Maybe
Eat more because of other factors? Maybe
I can say that people will lose weight if the count calories and are on a deficit, but there are some things that let people blow their calorie in take.
And it is chemical
You can choose to believe that or not
Your understanding of how the body absorbs nutrients and macros seems very very basic at best.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I lost a lot of weight a couple years ago using MFP, pretty quickly too. And I LIVED off Diet Dr. Pepper the whole time. My healthiest habit? Probably not. But did it hinder my weight loss at all? Not even a little bit.4
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You can testify that you've drank a million diet cokes, every day and you became a fitness model, it doesn't mean much to the lay-person.
Fact is, if you are obese and you drink diet soda, you usually don't lose weight.
Diet soda are not directly involved in gaining weight.
But they are involved non the less.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-affect-weight-loss-and-gain-2017-7
I'm not saying anyone should stop eating what they love, but there are no real benefits from diet soda except a temporary good mouth feel.
Did you actually read your linked article beyond the headline? Did you notice they say this is an observed conclusion and they do not provide any possible biological or even scientific reason as to why this is the case?
Did you actually read all the responses in this thread? Did you notice that we have provided numerous reasons why drinking diet soda could be correlated with not losing or even gaining weight?
Most people who are obese don't manage to lose weight, regardless of what they drink. If you are accurately counting your calories and stick to your calorie goal, whether you drink water or diet soda or unsweetened tea will NOT cause you to gain weight or stop you from losing weight. This is perfectly understandable to a lay-person - I am not a fitness model, personal trainer, scientist, or medical professional of any kind, and I managed to figure it out pretty quick
Congratulations on figuring it out real quick.
I think I mentioned that diet soda is not directly responsible for gaining weight?
I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that.
So people that tend to drink diet soda
More likely overweight? Yes
Crave more sweets? Maybe
Eat more because of other factors? Maybe
I can say that people will lose weight if the count calories and are on a deficit, but there are some things that let people blow their calorie in take.
And it is chemical
You can choose to believe that or not
I don't "choose" to believe. A basic understanding of biology is how I know that drinking a zero calorie beverage does not cause weight gain. Someone who is not accurately accounting in some way for their calories "may" end up overeating when drinking diet soda for psychological reasons, but it has nothing to do with artificial sweeteners. In fact many diet-foods and fad health foods, whether they use artificial sweeteners or have fat removed or have a specific "good" ingredient, can subconsciously cause people to feel like they can reward themselves or they have extra calories and can have a treat. That doesn't mean the food causes weight gain, it means people aren't being aware and responsible for their intake.
A basic understanding of chemistry is how I know that "chemicals" is not a reason for anything, since literally every single thing in the known universe is made of chemicals.11
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