August 2017 Running Challenge

@KatieJane83 - It seems to have worked now

cburke8909 wrote: »

@PastorVincent and @MobyCarp then there is the problem of those who start fast and fade. They run like they're doing a 1/2 mile race when the race is 10k? In a 5k it's not too bad but I still want to race easier the first mile and go for it miles 2 and 3.

From the perspective of a second-tier finisher (behind all the fast young guys), this is not a problem. If they start faster than I do, they're not in my way. By the time they fade, I have room to pass them.

Or, from a race management perspective, the challenge is to know myself and not try to run with the speed demons. In some races, I see pre-pubescent kids going out faster than I do, even when I'm deliberately running the first mile faster than I can hold for the entire race. Most of the time, I will pass them somewhere between a quarter mile and a kilometer into the race. Once in a while, it turns out to be a kid with real speed. In any case, I need to *let them go* early and just run my race.

With more experience, and as I get better at race management, I'm beginning to see this phenomenon later in the race. I saw a clump fade and fall behind me about 1 mile into my last 5K, and I saw a clump fade about 3 miles into a 4 mile race. I suppose that last clump was people who had optimized for a 5K and didn't figure out how to adjust for the 4 mile distance.

@shanaber - It's not chip timing that's the issue, it's gun time versus net time. I have run very few races that were not chip timed, but I have run a lot of races that had no timing mat at the start line. Those races only produce gun time, even though it is chip measured. Other races will have a timing mat at the start line and produce both gun time and net time. For where I line up, there is typically a 2 to 3 second difference for a big race, scaling down to no difference for a smaller race where I can line up right on the line.

When the race produces both net time (frequently labeled "chip time" on the race results) and gun time, gun time is usually used for the awards. Sometimes the race results have a disclaimer that "chip time" (really net time) is provided for information purposes only and official results are gun time. When the race only produces gun time, that's all there is to use.

In contrast to shorter races, marathons will typically have a timing mat at the start, and frequently will have multiple timing mats at 5K distances through the race to provide splits. Every marathon wants to provide net time, because net time is what counts for a BQ. If you're trying to market a marathon you run, you have to have net time. At Boston, the only official time is net time. At Buffalo 2015, results were sorted by gun time but net time was prominently displayed on the results.

When I track my sister running the Lincoln Half Marathon, there is an extended period after the gun where her results say "waiting to start." What's going on is, she is lined up far back of the leaders and takes 15 or 20 minutes to get to the starting mat. In the Lincoln Marathon/Half Marathon, there is no gun time, only net time.

@MobyCarp

IME many races use CHIP TIME for Age Group, but GUN TIME for overall. The race I mentioned above though did not have a starting mat at all, only registered your finish time. So there was confusion at the start when to start running and many in front of me did not start running and I was doing the boogie woogie trying to break free of the pack and all that.

@KatieJane83 Where do you fine the permissions on Google sheets? I'm glad we have a you!

Elise4270 wrote: »

@KatieJane83 Where do you fine the permissions on Google sheets? I'm glad we have a you!

when you share a google sheet or doc with someone, there's a little pencil next to where you type in the Email address. click on that, and the different premissions are there

Elise4270 wrote: »

@KatieJane83 Where do you fine the permissions on Google sheets? I'm glad we have a you!

So I'm on my phone now, so I can't take a screenshot because it looks different on the phone, but somewhere on the top toolbar, to the right hand side is a button that says 'Share'. When you click on that there's a drop down menu with all the different options

Wk 8.7.17 - 8.13.17

M - 10 m. + (11 miles on Bike)
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S - (Half Marathon Scheduled)
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Total - 10 miles. Goal is 50 miles this week.

The amount of messages ITT is massive, is this the most active thread on the forums?

Almost 1/4 of my goal.

PastorVincent wrote: »

Orphia wrote: »

@shrcpr It's my whole mission in life to find decent running bottoms in stock with phone and key pockets!

My wife uses a Roo pouch that we bought at the 1/2 marathon expo. It seems to work really well for her: http://theroosport.com/

Bookmarked! Though I prefer to use as little gear as possible, so that's why I go for bottoms that include pockets.

Love that sparkle skirts item! Not a pink person, but man, those pockets are brilliant!

8.6 easy mostly zone 1 recovery miles