August 2017 Running Challenge

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  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    @PastorVincent I've heard of the high kick used in barefoot running circles. I can see how there would actually be less effort to swing the leg forward if the foot is up, and have been trying this myself rather than a horrible tendency I have to straight leg run (made worse by hyperextension meaning my lower leg extends beyond the knee line).

    Completely unscientifically I tested the high leg kick on my run last night (brownie points to me for actually getting out and running like I said). It felt light and easy going, and it is something I think I will explore further.

    Just to confirm, it's a flick back with the foot (kicking your butt) rather than a push.

  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
    edited August 2017
    8/1: 7 miles of Track Tuesday
    8/2: 7.1 miles easy
    8/3: 8 miles "tempo run"
    8/3: 6.3 miles group run
    8/4: Rest day
    8/5: 6 miles
    8/6: 16 miles
    8/7: 6 miles group run + lift/strength
    8/8: 7 miles Track Tuesday
    8/9: 5 miles + lift/strength
    8/10: 6.8 miles "tempo Thursday"
    8/10: 6.1 mile
    8/11: Rest day
    8/12: 6.4 miles
    8/13: 15.8 miles
    8/14: 3.2 miles
    8/15: 9.4 miles of Track Tuesday
    8/16: 5 miles
    8/17: 8 miles "tempo run"

    129.1 miles of 250 goal miles

    Another tempo run thwarted by poo today. I wasn't feeling very peppy from the start, with 62-64F, 96% humidity and a dew point of ~63 (but felt much higher? idk), and my legs still a bit fatigued from Tuesday's track workout. I was keeping up with my group until about 5 miles in and then I slowed, and then the last 2 miles I gave up and walk-ran home instead of finishing the 10 mile route (which was an excellent route and I was bummed to have to cut it short!).

    I never have an issue with pre-run poops except on Thursday. IDK if it's because I'm up just a bit earlier Thursdays than other days of week (we meet at 5:30 instead of 5:45 or 6:00) or if it's because I end up eating later on Wednesday after I do a strength workout Wed evening. I'm going to have to try to change my routine next week to avoid this again because today's run was no fun, especially being a repeat of the same issue as last week!

    However since these miles were so slow today, I am going to try to add the 2 miles I missed to my group run tonight and do some up-tempo miles with the group. Might as well, since I'll have a rest day tomorrow (finally!).


    Upcoming Races:
    Oct 8: Steamtown Marathon
    Oct 22: Perfect 10 (10 Miler)
    Nov 5: Princeton Half Marathon (pacer)

  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
    ereck44 wrote: »

    August 16th.....couldn't do it. I should have run my long run...it was 88 degrees with a heat index of 97. Wimped out and went to the gym. 7 minutes on the stair climber and 29 minutes lifting weights. It was slightly cooler in the gym, only slightly. I haven't lifted weights since last February...boy did I feel weak.

    I had a blast in Iowa. My mother admitted that she couldn't walk very far and opted out of seeing the Hoover home or the Amana colonies. I loved the Hoover museum. There was a blacksmith there (Hoover's dad was a blacksmith) who was blacksmithing and had a lot of insight on that period of history.

    Take care, everyone....off to the State Fair tomorrow.

    @ereck44 Oooh I'm from Cedar Rapids originally (in NJ now) and Amana Colonies is always a fun outing! And the Hoover Museum is great. Enjoy the State Fair!! I'm ashamed as an Iowan to say that I've never actually gone. Sample some deep fried butter for me! ;)
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    8/1- 6.1
    8/1- 4.2
    8/2- 6.1
    8/3- 4.5
    8/3- 6
    8/4- 8.1
    8/5- 15.2
    8/6- 5.1
    8/7- REST
    8/8- 6.6
    8/8- 4
    8/9- 6.2
    8/10- REST
    8/11- 4 icky not so fun miles
    8/12- 18.3
    8/13- REST/Recovery
    8/14- REST/Recovery
    8/15- 6.2
    6/16- 5.1
    6/17- 6.5

    Total: 112.4

    August Goal: Not die while ramping up running mileage and technicality during 100K training
    Nominal mileage goal: 250 miles haha, not going to happen

    Today's notes: First speedwork session in a LONG time. Today's workout was 1 mile warm up in z1, then 12x400m with 200m rest. I'm not near a track, so I had to go with y garmin for split distance. 400m split times were:

    1:55
    1:53
    1:50
    1:52
    1:52
    1:51
    1:51
    1:53<-- dodging cars through ankle deep water
    1:51
    1:51
    1:52
    1:39<-- Decided to drop the hammer a little

    Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the workout. plan was to keep splits at 1:501-:53 and, except the first lap, I managed that. I actually feel great after this run. I haven't done these short interval runs before, so I'm not sure, am I supposed to feel great, or does this mean I can/should be pushing higher on my intervals? Pace for me was roughly 5k pace, for perspective.


    Have a Runderful day everyone!


    2017 Races Scheduled
    6/16- William A Irvin 5k
    6/17- Grandma's Marathon 4:24:06
    7/15- Eugene Curnow Trail Marathon 7:22:23
    8/12- UMTR FatAss "Not Quite" 50k DNF- Too hot and my mind wasn't in it.
    8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
    9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
    10/21 Wild Duluth 100k
    11/23- TBD 5k Turkey
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited August 2017
    JimCrackinDandy wrote: »
    5.5 today. August total 56.47/90

    Look out! Falling caterpillars! As I was l running this am, I noticed a number these large caterpillars all over the road. As I knelt down to inspect one, I heard a wet "smack" and noticed they were dropping out of the tree above me! Uggg!!! Eeekkkk! Got back to the run rather quickly after that <3
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    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday bird that'd be a pizza!
    (Whys has my corrective text gone stupid)
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday that'd be a pizza!

    Umm...errr... what!?!? :confused:
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited August 2017
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday that'd be a pizza!

    Umm...errr... what!?!? :confused:

    Edited to correct corrective text... It seriously getting terrible.

    ETA although, "if I were a birthday" sounds like it could be an amazing thing... :smiley:
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    girlinahat wrote: »
    I didn't get up to go to the gym this morning. Partly because I can't find my gym pass and I don't really do interaction too well in the early morning so getting a replacement wasn't going to happen.

    Partly also because I fancied a lie in with a cup of tea in bed. Which is daft because it's not a weekend and I was up by 7 anyway!!

    BUT I feel so GOOD!!!!

    Swim training this evening.

    Lol! I just love your non-americanese!
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »

    Pace for me was roughly 5k pace, for perspective.


    Have a Runderful day everyone!

    Ok, Disclaimer: I am NOT an expert and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in. But, I think short intervals are supposed to be run at a faster pace. My last summer track workout was 2x 2400m long intervals and the coach told us we should be pushing slightly faster than our 5k pace for those. When we've done shorter interval workouts he's told us to push pretty hard. I know, vague and non-specific, lol.

    Again, I could be totally wrong. Some of our awesomely experienced brethren will, I'm sure, chime in with better info than I have, lol.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday that'd be a pizza!

    Umm...errr... what!?!? :confused:

    Edited to correct corrective text... It seriously getting terrible.

    ETA although, "if I were a birthday" sounds like it could be an amazing thing... :smiley:

    I have autocorrect turned off. I let it underline in red but that is it. For this very reason. :)
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday that'd be a pizza!

    Umm...errr... what!?!? :confused:

    Edited to correct corrective text... It seriously getting terrible.

    ETA although, "if I were a birthday" sounds like it could be an amazing thing... :smiley:

    I have autocorrect turned off. I let it underline in red but that is it. For this very reason. :)

    Well, I can't spell so I kinda need it.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday that'd be a pizza!

    Umm...errr... what!?!? :confused:

    Edited to correct corrective text... It seriously getting terrible.

    ETA although, "if I were a birthday" sounds like it could be an amazing thing... :smiley:

    I have autocorrect turned off. I let it underline in red but that is it. For this very reason. :)

    Well, I can't spell so I kinda need it.

    Same here, hence letting it underline in red instead of autocorrect. I can go back and fix anything it flags.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    girlinahat wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Tobacco horned worm I think. I tell ya, if I were a birthday that'd be a pizza!

    Umm...errr... what!?!? :confused:

    Edited to correct corrective text... It seriously getting terrible.

    ETA although, "if I were a birthday" sounds like it could be an amazing thing... :smiley:

    how cool would it be to be a birthday. Giving joy to others once a year, with surprises up your sleeve and plenty of wrapping paper. Ooh and endless supplies of bubble wrap to roll in. Is it wrong that I am imagining the joy of rolling in bubble wrap?

    If everyone were given an unlimited supply of bubble wrap the world might be a more peaceful place :D:D:D
  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
    edited August 2017
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »

    Pace for me was roughly 5k pace, for perspective.


    Have a Runderful day everyone!

    Ok, Disclaimer: I am NOT an expert and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in. But, I think short intervals are supposed to be run at a faster pace. My last summer track workout was 2x 2400m long intervals and the coach told us we should be pushing slightly faster than our 5k pace for those. When we've done shorter interval workouts he's told us to push pretty hard. I know, vague and non-specific, lol.

    Again, I could be totally wrong. Some of our awesomely experienced brethren will, I'm sure, chime in with better info than I have, lol.

    @KatieJane83 I know the last time I reviewed the Hansons marathon plan, shorter intervals were 5k pace or faster (I was doing 1:40 or less for 400s) and longer internals were just under half or marathon pace (mine were around 7:30 which is 10-30 seconds under MP). I think the speed of the intervals depends on your race goals. If I'm training to run for 3.5 hours, knocking out laps at a sub-5k pace won't do me that much good.

    However when I switch to 5k/10k training this winter... >:)
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »

    Pace for me was roughly 5k pace, for perspective.


    Have a Runderful day everyone!

    Ok, Disclaimer: I am NOT an expert and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in. But, I think short intervals are supposed to be run at a faster pace. My last summer track workout was 2x 2400m long intervals and the coach told us we should be pushing slightly faster than our 5k pace for those. When we've done shorter interval workouts he's told us to push pretty hard. I know, vague and non-specific, lol.

    Again, I could be totally wrong. Some of our awesomely experienced brethren will, I'm sure, chime in with better info than I have, lol.

    Thanks for that. I was using my 5k PR pace plugged into the McMillan calculator to get the pace. That PR is almost a year old, and I haven't run a 5k for speed since then.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    @MNLittleFinn yeah, I think like @kristinegift said, it probably really comes down to what your goals are. If you're working on a 5k race goal the answer will be different than if you're working on a 100k ultra goal.
  • DX2JX2
    DX2JX2 Posts: 1,921 Member
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    8/1: 3.5
    8/3: 3.5
    8/4: 2.7
    8/5: 6.1
    8/7: 2.7
    8/8: 3.5
    8/9: 4.3
    8/10: 4.3
    8/12: 6.2
    8/13: 4.3
    8/14: 3.2
    8/15: 4.3
    8/16: 2.6 (opted for a very easy short run on rest day)
    8/17: 3.5

    Rest day tomorrow and long run on Saturday.

    51 miles out of 80 completed. August goals should be doable given one more normal week and one slightly lighter week (pre Labor Day 5K) to go.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    @MNLittleFinn yeah, I think like @kristinegift said, it probably really comes down to what your goals are. If you're working on a 5k race goal the answer will be different than if you're working on a 100k ultra goal.

    Yeah, The Ultra plan I'm going with has speedwork included with it and 400 repeats were one of the suggested workouts. Ian Torrance (paced Scott Jurek at WS100) recommends doing speedwork, even for ultra training because of the benefits to VO2MAX and overall fitness. Just anecdotally, but Scott Jurek did 1600 repeats in prep for WS100 (no, I don't have any thoughts that I could do that ever), basically because of the overall fitness improvements. So, all that said, I think I might want to keep pace and increase the distance of intervals.
  • karllundy
    karllundy Posts: 1,490 Member
    8/1 - Rest/sick day - feeling better, but not sure running would have been good. Hoping for tomorrow.
    8/2 - 4.5 miles of hill repeats. Glad I did it, more glad I'm done.
    8/3 - 3.5 short miles before getting in the car with the family.
    8/4 - Road trip / vacation
    8/5 - Road trip / vacation / anniversary
    8/6 - 5 miles. Gorgeous morning for a run!
    8/7 - 5 miles. Again, beautiful morning!
    8/8 - 5 miles. Another nice morning!
    8/9 - 4.6 miles of hill repeats with group. I am soooo tired and sleepy today.
    8/10 - 4.4 treadmill miles / trek class. Then upper body weights/abs.
    8/11 - Rest day because I have to.
    8/12 - 6.6 mile group run. Perfect weather.
    8/13 - 2.3 treadmill miles. Then quick upper body weights.
    8/14 - 5.3 miles track / intervals.
    8/15 - 5 miles. Another relatively cool, delightful morning to run.
    8/16 - 4.85 miles of group hill run. Rough, but good.
    8/17 - Rest day. If I run more than 5 days in a row, bad things tend to happen.

    @MobyCarp - Sorry you are injured. Take care of yourself!
    @kristinegift - I'm an Iowan, not a huge fan of the fair. It isn't bad, but I can overeat, people watch and sweat my *kitten* off for much less money in other ways and experience something that isn't about the same every year. Just my $0.02. I do love to see all the animals, though and the B-list bands at the free stages. That said, @ereck44, I hope you have a fabulous time!
    @Elise4270 - If you're a birthday, I wanna be a holiday! Perhaps a minor one, like Flag Day or President's Day.
  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
    edited August 2017
    @MNLittleFinn Track work can be really beneficial for trails and vice versa. Track work will help your overall fitness and speed, and trail runs will help with cadence and strength. Best of both worlds!! This winter/spring before I got lazy for 3 months, combining the two led to huge gains and my HM PR.
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    8/1 8miles 1hr:16m:25s
    8/2 6miles 60m:39s
    8/3 5miles 46m:32s
    8/4 rest
    8/5 12miles 1hr:57m:36s
    8/6 rest
    8/7 6miles 57m:25s
    8/8 5miles 49m:20s
    8/9 rest
    8/10 13.1miles!!!! 2hr:04m:17s
    8/11 6mi 56m:44s
    8/12 5mi 48m:30s
    8/13 rest
    8/14 6miles 57m:56s
    8/15 9miles 1h:29m:30s
    8/16 rest
    8/17 12miles 2h:02m:55s

    I haven't checked in since Saturday and I've got over 300 posts to catch up on!

    Monday and Tuesday were really muggy miles. My 9 mile run on Tuesday felt like running through a sauna. I don't think I've ever been so completely soaked- even my socks were soaked. I was shocked I even finished.

    I decided to go for my long run this morning because it was supposed to be a bit cooler than tomorrow. I'm glad I did- it was 72 degrees and much less humid at 5:30am. I was really slow. I think the late nights are catching up with me.

    One more run tomorrow then we have to pack everything up. The week here always go by too fast.

    I'm sitting on the beach under an umbrella watching my kids play. I'll catch up on all the posts since Saturday!
  • Dcorrick
    Dcorrick Posts: 56 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    Dcorrick wrote: »
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    It was only 88F, but it was still so humid.

    THAT'S what I'm talkin' about! I'm so envious of all the folks that say their midday run was 74 degrees with 50% humidity. Come run in the Florida swamps, where if the sun is up, you can cook your breakfast egg on the sidewalk!

    just as long as you come run with me when it's -12 with a -40 windchill. then it's fair.

    Nope; I claim no ability to deal with cold. As long as I'm not wearing a lot of silly work clothes, I thrive in the heat. Native Floridian: cold is a malevolent mystery to me.
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