Is bread really that bad
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Ericnutrition wrote: »deputy_randolph wrote: »I eat bread everyday...it's delicious. You need carbs for life.
But you don't need bread as your source for carbs.
Wrong...I DO need bread for my source of carbs. Does everyone? I don't know, b/c I don't know everyone. And bread is still delicious.10 -
Bread's fine. I love bread! As long as it fits in your calorie limits and you're also getting enough protein & fat & nutrient dense foods eat whatever you like.
Personally, I look for breads without high-fructose corn syrup - because those actually seem to make me hungrier.0 -
I frequently see a Facebook ad that suggests that bananas are a devil food. I ignore ads. I am also cautious with facebook group claims. The same with reddit. When it comes to aspartame, animal rights, dairy, the 'military diet', fluoride, vaccines, and GMO, I ignore the first page of google hits. I rather check the website of origin.
When I want to get to the truth of a matter, I go to the experts which in this case would be the national agency responsible for health, or the WHO. If I want to dig deeper I read double-blind peer reviewed research.
But I thought bananas were proof that God exists?!6 -
Give us this day our daily protein...6
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Ericnutrition wrote: »HeidiCooksSupper wrote: »It's called insulin response and, yes, it can be affected by consumption of foodstuffs that cause spikes in that insulin response. Here's information from a reliable internet source that explains about carbohydrates and insulin response. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates/carbohydrates-and-blood-sugar/
How dare you post some garbage article by some garbage Google "expert."
Wait a minute, it's from Harvard University! Guess it's not woo after all.
What's woo is taking a normal and appropriate physiological response and pathologizing it.19 -
If the world is ending on Saturday, does it really matter if bread is good or bad for you?7 -
diannethegeek wrote: »JustRobby1 wrote: »Yes, bread and anything that contains so many carbs will cause your insulin to spike and it will be a miracle if you manage to avoid a trip to the ER from it (assuming the paramedics can get to you in time to and revive you). Furthermore, even if you do manage to survive, you will probably gain at least 10 pounds per week from it at a minimum. Even running a marathon will not be enough exercise to work it off because carbs send your body into a form of toxic shock syndrome.
My advice? Clean out your refrigerator immediately and throw it's current contents in the trash. Replace this with an entire slab of beef from a butcher shop, including the innards like the heart, lungs, brain, etc. Also be sure to go to Sam's Clubs and score a 55 gallon drum of butter and a couple of pallets of pork rinds and beef jerky.
If you are lucky, you might still be able to salvage your health.
In a thread where the OP is having a hard time differentiating between good information and bad on the internet, this kind of sarcasm isn't helping.
I suppose you're right. I guess I did neglect to mention the threat of imminent death that surely awaits anyone who strays from the path and consumes food that contains GMO, gluten, and is not certified organic. Thanks for reminding me to dot all my i's and cross all my t's
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The internet is a jerk. Kind of unfortunate, since the MFP community is internet. But we love you and don't want you to be afraid of food.7
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Bread's fine. I love bread! As long as it fits in your calorie limits and you're also getting enough protein & fat & nutrient dense foods eat whatever you like.
Personally, I look for breads without high-fructose corn syrup - because those actually seem to make me hungrier.
The whole sugar in bread thing freaked me out when I went to America. Bread here in Australia just don't have sugar. Even just plain white sandwich bread you buy from the store doesn't have sugar in it... Frankly, American bread was just weird, to me. I couldn't eat it.8 -
In my breadbox, I have a loaf of honey wh. bread, a package of flour tortillas and some sundried tomato wraps. Surprisingly, to me, was the bread is the healthiest option of the 3( I guessed wraps). So I suppose there are much worse things you could eat.3
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Bread's fine. I love bread! As long as it fits in your calorie limits and you're also getting enough protein & fat & nutrient dense foods eat whatever you like.
Personally, I look for breads without high-fructose corn syrup - because those actually seem to make me hungrier.
The whole sugar in bread thing freaked me out when I went to America. Bread here in Australia just don't have sugar. Even just plain white sandwich bread you buy from the store doesn't have sugar in it... Frankly, American bread was just weird, to me. I couldn't eat it.
Yes, it is weird. I'm fortunate to live in an area with lots of quality bakeries. It costs a bit more, but I never have to eat that mass produced kitten.2 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »Bread's fine. I love bread! As long as it fits in your calorie limits and you're also getting enough protein & fat & nutrient dense foods eat whatever you like.
Personally, I look for breads without high-fructose corn syrup - because those actually seem to make me hungrier.
The whole sugar in bread thing freaked me out when I went to America. Bread here in Australia just don't have sugar. Even just plain white sandwich bread you buy from the store doesn't have sugar in it... Frankly, American bread was just weird, to me. I couldn't eat it.
Same. When I went to the US I had to look for specialty breads. I just couldn't eat the bread. I have real issues with savory foods tasting sweet and the sweetness was shocking. I could only eat normal sandwich bread with things like PB&J and had to avoid ordering anything with bread at restaurants.1 -
I have some 40 calorie bread for when I want some toast or a sandwich but I also substitute with lettuce wraps.0
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Bread isn't bad, just eat small amounts.
If you want larger amounts of bread, I highly recommend the danish Rye bread, if you're able to get it somewhere (German version called schwarzbrot is almost as good and slightly more common)
There're barely any wheat in rye bread and it's mainly fiber and wholegrains! it's great (^_^)1 -
Actually both carbs and protein raise insulin. Insulin is not a villain, your body needs it to metabolize food.
Carbs do raise blood glucose levels, but unless you are diabetic or prediabetic, there is no reason you need to worry about this. Your doctor should check your glucose as part of a regular checkup, if you are concerned.
Some of the least obese cultures on earth eat rice and bread every day. If you are well off enough that you eat a variety of foods as well, and you eat within your calories, it's fine.3 -
If bread/carbs were really bad for us, you'd think the human race would have perished long before the keto fad and all the carb fear started. I mean, humans have been eating bread for what, a couple thousand years?
For unleavened bread, try more like 12,000 years. For leavened (yeast) bread, it's about 6,000 years. Earliest archaeological evidence for flour goes back 30,000 years though: http://www.pnas.org/content/112/39/12075.abstract (suck on that, paleo dieters!).
Rice domestication in China dates back to around 9,000 - 10,000 years ago.
So yeah, we're good with eating the bread and rice.16 -
Thank uPaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »The internet is a jerk. Kind of unfortunate, since the MFP community is internet. But we love you and don't want you to be afraid of food.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »If bread/carbs were really bad for us, you'd think the human race would have perished long before the keto fad and all the carb fear started. I mean, humans have been eating bread for what, a couple thousand years?
For unleavened bread, try more like 12,000 years. For leavened (yeast) bread, it's about 6,000 years. Earliest archaeological evidence for flour goes back 30,000 years though: http://www.pnas.org/content/112/39/12075.abstract (suck on that, paleo dieters!).
Rice domestication in China dates back to around 9,000 - 10,000 years ago.
So yeah, we're good with eating the bread and rice.
ThanBread isn't bad, just eat small amounts.
If you want larger amounts of bread, I highly recommend the danish Rye bread, if you're able to get it somewhere (German version called schwarzbrot is almost as good and slightly more common)
There're barely any wheat in rye bread and it's mainly fiber and wholegrains! it's great (^_^)
thanks so much0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »TorresCarmeniifym wrote: »Some are, some are not- Check out, Netflix, "Whats With Wheat" it talks about why so many people now are having issues digesting wheat/gluten. GMO'd wheat does more damage than good. Look for Dave's Killer Bread 21 grain or Non-GMO bread. Sourdough is good because the process to make it is different.
Getting nutrition advice from unreliable sources like Netflix documentaries is part of the problem here. Not the solution.
Exactly. Sources that tell you that there is such a thing as GMO wheat, for instance. There are no strains of GMO wheat on the market. The big genetic modification in wheat happened about 8,000 years ago, when several strains of diploid or tetraploid wheat crossed themselves in some stone-age farmer's field.
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I made some homemade pita breads last night and am super excited to use them in whatever way I see fit. I ain't scared of no ghos--trolls--internet taboo diet tips.4
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I have been trying Cauliflower rice. It is a decent alternative if you are worried about the calories of rice. I am also trying to make bread so that it has less junk in it than store bought. As to the insulin comment, my daughter is a Type 1 diabetic and has to give insulin for all the carbs that she eats. Her body no longer produces the insulin needed. It makes sense that bread and rice or any carb would raise insulin usage.1
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I eat bread every day and I've lost 30 pounds since the spring.3
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wdedoelder wrote: »I have been trying Cauliflower rice. It is a decent alternative if you are worried about the calories of rice. I am also trying to make bread so that it has less junk in it than store bought. As to the insulin comment, my daughter is a Type 1 diabetic and has to give insulin for all the carbs that she eats. Her body no longer produces the insulin needed. It makes sense that bread and rice or any carb would raise insulin usage.
there is a difference though between someone who needs to medicate for insulin and a healthy person who doesn't - which the OP appears to be5 -
there is a difference though between someone who needs to medicate for insulin and a healthy person who doesn't - which the OP appears to be
I do understand that, just saying that it makes sense that the body would need to produce something more for carbs. lol2
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