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Flu shots? For them or against ?

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  • maggibailey
    maggibailey Posts: 289 Member
    So let's use small numbers. 100 healthy adults get the shot and 100 healthy adults do not. So let's say 10 people that don't get the shot get the flu. That would mean that 6 people who got the shot also got the flu? That is the way I'm reading the percentage of success. I'd love a smarter person to tell me if I'm wrong. It has happened once or twice in my life especially when it comes to numbers ;)
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    I've never had the flu so I don't get them. I am not against them though. My daughter has asthma and she is a school teacher. She has always gotten them. If I worked in healthcare or at a school I probably would, but I just usually don't spend the money on it. All in all I am pretty pro vaccines.

    All insurance should cover it...I've never had health insurance that didn't cover immunizations 100%. I've never paid for a flu shot and I get them every year.

    Your daughter has asthma and you don't get flu shots? I can't even...

    My daughter is an adult and she lives 200 miles away from me. If I were to get the flu I think she would be safe. When she lived at home she always got the flu shot but I did not. I have never had the flu.

    It would cost me about $20-$25. Like I said, if I worked at a school or in healthcare I would probably get one, but I don't so I never have bothered.

    Okay, but just as other people live around your daughter, you live around the daughters (or other loved ones) of other people. That your daughter would be okay if you got the flu . . . . that's all it takes for you to disregard everyone else?

    I don't get this. I have family members who would be at a higher risk of complications if they got the flu. I may not see them often, but I realize that my co-workers and neighbors are loved and cherished by their families as much as I love and cherish mine.
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,103 Member
    I work in an office. There are 3 employees. I am the only one who is here most days.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    I work in an office. There are 3 employees. I am the only one who is here most days.

    Like I said to someone else on the last page, most of us encounter people outside of work. We socialize, work, shop, commute, go to public spaces.
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,103 Member
    I am not against the flu shot. I just never have gotten one, nor have I ever had the flu. I am pro vaccines. My kids got all of their vaccines when they were children. The flu shot may or may not protect against the strain of flu that is going around each year so it is only partial protection anyway. I wash my hands a lot, and if I do get sick, (which is pretty rare for me), I stay home.
  • 13bbird13
    13bbird13 Posts: 425 Member
    Like I said, if I worked at a school or in healthcare I would probably get one, but I don't so I never have bothered.
    I work at a school and I don't bother. I also don't get the flu, or any of the other creeping crud that makes the rounds each year. I wash my hands a lot (don't care for the anti-bacterial dispensers, but we have them all over) and just am generally mindful about things like doorknobs and bannisters. I also open the bathroom door with the paper towel I used to dry my hands, then chuck it in the nearest trashcan. Seems to work okay for me so far, but I'm not anti-shot per se.

  • MystikPixie
    MystikPixie Posts: 342 Member
    Every company I have worked for since I was 16 has offered them for free. Whether it works or not, I've never gotten the flu, so I will continue to get them as they are offered. Plus, I don't turn down free.
  • maura_tasi
    maura_tasi Posts: 196 Member
    I work in healthcare and think everyone should get one. I get one every year (and not just because I am required so in the hospital, I've been getting them all my life!).
  • maura_tasi
    maura_tasi Posts: 196 Member
    Whoops, I didn't realize this was from 2016. Didn't mean to bring up an old thread!
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    maura_tasi wrote: »
    Whoops, I didn't realize this was from 2016. Didn't mean to bring up an old thread!

    No need to feel bad. This thread is still active, it's just really old. The conversation is still going on!
  • Fyreside
    Fyreside Posts: 444 Member
    Since I started sharing a house with healthcare professionals, I get the shots because I know they are exposed to people with the flu. Not that I doubt their commitment to hygiene or infection control systems. I'm just happy to use whatever preventative measures are available. Flu's are definitely getting worse over the years.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,289 Member
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    I've never had the flu so I don't get them. I am not against them though. My daughter has asthma and she is a school teacher. She has always gotten them. If I worked in healthcare or at a school I probably would, but I just usually don't spend the money on it. All in all I am pretty pro vaccines.

    All insurance should cover it...I've never had health insurance that didn't cover immunizations 100%. I've never paid for a flu shot and I get them every year.

    Your daughter has asthma and you don't get flu shots? I can't even...

    My daughter is an adult and she lives 200 miles away from me. If I were to get the flu I think she would be safe. When she lived at home she always got the flu shot but I did not. I have never had the flu.

    It would cost me about $20-$25. Like I said, if I worked at a school or in healthcare I would probably get one, but I don't so I never have bothered.

    One thing I don't think you realize is that each year the shot changes. So each shot you get (or the people who are around your daughter, with asthma) gives you an immunity to a new strain of virus. So over the years, you are building an immunity to many strains.

    I am really struggling to understand. Would you tell the people who work with your daughter to not get flu shots? Because that's the risk you are putting everyone else in. You don't go to the grocery? The gas station? You never touch anything that other people touch? You literally only see three people in your office, and that's it? What if one of those three people has a loved one who would be seriously affected? Really? You're that selfish?
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,289 Member
    edited October 2017
    I have never had the flu.

    ..and for the record, I've never had the flu either, as far as I can remember...not sure what that argument means. That you're a special snowflake? Well, me too.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    We got our flu shots Friday.

    My daughter and husband despise needles. They both have been known to faint after getting them, that's how much they hate them.

    But they still got their shots. (My daughter is an adult and has a choice in the matter. She was so upset about getting a needle, she cried through getting it.)

    Why did they put themselves through this?

    Because I'm on immune suppressants.

    My sister took her family to get their flu shots. You know why? Because I'm on immune suppressants.

    I wish I could count on everyone I encounter in public the way I can count on my family.

    In the uk they do a live virus nasal spray for kids....is that something the needle phobic could look int

    Not if you are immunosuppressed or around immunosuppressed people (because of shedding)
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    We got our flu shots Friday.

    My daughter and husband despise needles. They both have been known to faint after getting them, that's how much they hate them.

    But they still got their shots. (My daughter is an adult and has a choice in the matter. She was so upset about getting a needle, she cried through getting it.)

    Why did they put themselves through this?

    Because I'm on immune suppressants.

    My sister took her family to get their flu shots. You know why? Because I'm on immune suppressants.

    I wish I could count on everyone I encounter in public the way I can count on my family.

    In the uk they do a live virus nasal spray for kids....is that something the needle phobic could look int

    Not if you are immunosuppressed or around immunosuppressed people (because of shedding)

    Also, last year, the flu mist was not available in the US due to a study questioning its effectiveness. I don't know about this year.
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