Diet Sodas?

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  • Poisonedpawn78
    Poisonedpawn78 Posts: 1,145 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    pjbarclay55 wrote: »
    You are right im relating the two. My other post was saying sugars, i include them together Sugars/Sweetners) shouldn't but i do. Neither one are probably at all related sugar, aspartame and my personal fat loss but because it happened its kept me continuing what i'm doing. Just an interesting read below:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

    How many people have you seen walking around with a double bacon cheeseburger and the largest french fry available...but it's all good because they're drinking a diet soda? I've seen lots...

    To be fair, it depends on the situation really. I can fit a cheeseburger and fries into my daily goals pretty easily, but a normal coke would destroy it. Id rather have the extra 200ish calories for other food and not drink my calories away.

    On the other hand if they are using the diet coke as justification to add more food without consideration to calories/nutrition, its pretty reckless and silly.
  • Poisonedpawn78
    Poisonedpawn78 Posts: 1,145 Member
    JeepHair77 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    pjbarclay55 wrote: »
    You are right im relating the two. My other post was saying sugars, i include them together Sugars/Sweetners) shouldn't but i do. Neither one are probably at all related sugar, aspartame and my personal fat loss but because it happened its kept me continuing what i'm doing. Just an interesting read below:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

    How many people have you seen walking around with a double bacon cheeseburger and the largest french fry available...but it's all good because they're drinking a diet soda? I've seen lots...

    I hear this all the time, and I know everyone rolls their eyes at me for doing this, but if my calorie limit just barely allows my most-favoritest Whataburger lunch every so often (and as it is, I'm sacrificing the mayo for cheese and skipping breakfast), no way am I going to waste any of those calories on full-sugar soda when the diet version still brings me joy (JOY, I tell you!), and I don't know why this particular meal-ordering phenomenon is so vexing to people.

    If someone could come up with a zero-calorie bacon cheeseburger, I'd order that, too.

    I should have kept reading, you basically said what I did.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    JeepHair77 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    pjbarclay55 wrote: »
    You are right im relating the two. My other post was saying sugars, i include them together Sugars/Sweetners) shouldn't but i do. Neither one are probably at all related sugar, aspartame and my personal fat loss but because it happened its kept me continuing what i'm doing. Just an interesting read below:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

    How many people have you seen walking around with a double bacon cheeseburger and the largest french fry available...but it's all good because they're drinking a diet soda? I've seen lots...

    I hear this all the time, and I know everyone rolls their eyes at me for doing this, but if my calorie limit just barely allows my most-favoritest Whataburger lunch every so often (and as it is, I'm sacrificing the mayo for cheese and skipping breakfast), no way am I going to waste any of those calories on full-sugar soda when the diet version still brings me joy (JOY, I tell you!), and I don't know why this particular meal-ordering phenomenon is so vexing to people.

    If someone could come up with a zero-calorie bacon cheeseburger, I'd order that, too.

    If I order soda, it's diet soda. Period. Regardless of what I'm eating, how many calories I do or don't have left for the day or anything else. I like the taste of diet soda better than regular soda and if I have extra calories available, I'd prefer to expend them on more food rather than a non-diet soda. So whether I'm ordering the double half-pound bacon cheeseburger and chili cheese fries or the lean turkey sandwich wrapped in lettuce and a side salad, it'll be diet soda for me. Or if I don't feel like drinking soda, it'll be iced tea or water.
  • lutzsher
    lutzsher Posts: 1,153 Member
    edited October 2017
    Alatariel75 wrote: »
    lutzsher wrote: »
    In my quest to not only lose weight but to gain better health they are an item I have deleted, partly because of heart disease rampant in my family so I carefully watch sodium intake and all diet soda contains sodium. I have switched to flavored sparkling waters instead. There are many flavors and lots that are sodium free so it works when I have a craving for something bubbly. As for the alcohol, sadly that is another item I have deleted as I have had previous issues with portion control. Plus I realized that when I drink it seems to stall my weight loss even if it is within my calories that day, something about the alcohol just keeps my body hanging onto that weight so it has just been better for me to give it up to save my sanity each week when I get on the scale.

    Just for the record, Coke Zero contains 11mg of sodium per 100ml, where water has 5mg per 100ml.

    Ugh, but Coke Zero tastes like *kitten* :( ha ha. I was never much of a fan of diet soda anyway though, it was always classified as just "mix" in my former life.
  • clicketykeys
    clicketykeys Posts: 6,576 Member
    lostsomeweightonce wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    lostsomeweightonce wrote: »
    mtbusse73 wrote: »
    Ok...I hear that Diet Sodas are bad for you. But are they as bad for you as regular sodas? Is one a day OK? Would I be better off having a glass of dry wine? Thoughts? Suggestions?

    I would choose the wine.

    The wine has calories, the diet soda doesn't. I don't see it as an either/or. It's like asking if I should choose wine or water . . . clearly one can consume both in the same day.

    Very true! But if I had the choice and i had to drink one. I would fit the Dry Wine into my calories. There lots of arguments above about aspartame positive/neutral/negative. I don't know much about it to be honest and don't know if i'm for or against it. I'm just saying I would choose the wine. If my choice was water or wine well then that gets trickier :smile:. If your comparing Diet Soda to Water though I would assume there would be some differences even though they are both zero calorie.
    chaoticdreams wrote: »
    I quit drinking diet soda because my husband and I would go through 6 12 pks a week and it was expensive. It was all I drank and it's not bad for you imo, but the amount I drank made me personally feel like crap I've come to realize. Since I quit, I'm less bloated, have no sugar cravings, and no longer have this weird back ache in the kidney area. I did change other things around the same time, so I can't attribute all that to no longer drinking the equivalent of 1.5 two liters a day of Diet Coke, but I think my body is happier? Eh, just my n=1. I want to stress the only reason we stopped was financial and not because I think it's bad. I still use Equal as my artificial sweetener of choice, so it definitely wasn't the aspartame people like to blacklist.

    Now I drink black coffee in the am, water until after lunch, then I'll have one Coke zero, and then it's unsweet iced tea with a little bit of equal till bed. I just brought in the Coke zero this week because I miss the fizz and hate/detest stuff like LaCroix. So far no detrimental effects and I treat it as an afternoon treat with no calories. After a month off the stuff, I've come to prefer iced tea, which is easy to make and way cheaper.

    The bolded is why I drink water with flavor packets more often than soda, and why I drink soda more often than alcoholic beverages. I usually have a diet A&W with lunch, though sometimes it's a diet ginger ale.

    I'm cheap.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    edited October 2017
    I really have to try Diet A&W. Its highly promoted. So it's either really good or a lot of people work for them, :). Either way, I am down.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I really have to try Diet A&W. Its highly promoted. So it's either really good or a lot of people work for them, :). Either way, I am down.

    It's very good
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I really have to try Diet A&W. Its highly promoted. So it's either really good or a lot of people work for them, :). Either way, I am down.

    Fun fact: I recently got hooked on it by accident. I was so sure I'd hate it. In fact I do not. I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and regular. Maybe the flavors are strong enough to cover up the taste of the sweeteners.
  • Poisonedpawn78
    Poisonedpawn78 Posts: 1,145 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I really have to try Diet A&W. Its highly promoted. So it's either really good or a lot of people work for them, :). Either way, I am down.

    Diet Dr Pepper is also great. And if Dr Pepper wants to sponsor me, I am totally down for it.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,219 Member
    I miss Mr Pibb.
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
    RebeccaHovland wrote: »
    They are not great for you. Aspartame, the artificial sweetener is really bad for you over time. Definitely do some research on that. As for your diet, they will only satisfy your craving for sugar, not curb it. You will still crave sugar because your body will still register that artificial sweetener as the real deal. I only allow myself to have a diet soda like once a month because its just better to go with unsweetened tea, water, or powerade zero.

    Good luck!

    Rebecca

    I drink diet soda daily and have not craved sugar in well over a year. I would be questioning your beliefs as they are kinda wrong as a blanket statement.
  • tomteboda
    tomteboda Posts: 2,171 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    peaceout_aly wrote: »
    I read that Zevia brand sodas are a good sub for "diet" sodas. Still 0 calories but without the chemicals and supposedly cancer-causing sweeteners. Honestly, your best bet if you're into the whole chemical-avoidance thing is water.

    Sweeteners don't cause cancer. And hell, the only rats that got cancers were feed the equivalent of half their BW in aspartame.

    Not aspartame, it was the original artificial sweetener, saccharine.
  • ladyreva78
    ladyreva78 Posts: 4,080 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    shadow2450 wrote: »
    If your a soda addict, diet soda is a good temporary remedy although I wouldnt trust it with the ingredients it contains. Sparkling water is a good way to go, especially if your a soda dependent hoping to quit it. May taste like crap at first but it's varied adjustment.

    So you haven't bothered to read through the thread and the links to the scientific studies showing that there is nothing scary about the ingredients in diet soda?

    That would require reading.
  • Muscleflex79
    Muscleflex79 Posts: 1,917 Member
    lutzsher wrote: »
    In my quest to not only lose weight but to gain better health they are an item I have deleted, partly because of heart disease rampant in my family so I carefully watch sodium intake and all diet soda contains sodium. I have switched to flavored sparkling waters instead. There are many flavors and lots that are sodium free so it works when I have a craving for something bubbly. As for the alcohol, sadly that is another item I have deleted as I have had previous issues with portion control. Plus I realized that when I drink it seems to stall my weight loss even if it is within my calories that day, something about the alcohol just keeps my body hanging onto that weight so it has just been better for me to give it up to save my sanity each week when I get on the scale.

    I guess you didn't take the time to read all the posts ahead of yours where this was covered?? sodium in regular soda and diet soda is barely more than that in water and the same/less than in milk. do you stay away from water and milk because of the sodium as well???
  • Caralarma
    Caralarma Posts: 174 Member
    It amazes me that people still argue about this. *sips Diet Coke*
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I really have to try Diet A&W. Its highly promoted. So it's either really good or a lot of people work for them, :). Either way, I am down.

    Diet Dr Pepper is also great. And if Dr Pepper wants to sponsor me, I am totally down for it.

    Diet Dr Pepper is really, really, really great. I wish I could find the decaffeinated version near me. I don't drink the regular version that often because caffeine and I don't get along well these days.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    ladyreva78 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    shadow2450 wrote: »
    If your a soda addict, diet soda is a good temporary remedy although I wouldnt trust it with the ingredients it contains. Sparkling water is a good way to go, especially if your a soda dependent hoping to quit it. May taste like crap at first but it's varied adjustment.

    So you haven't bothered to read through the thread and the links to the scientific studies showing that there is nothing scary about the ingredients in diet soda?

    That would require reading.

    And opening up to the possibility that they might be incorrect.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    tomteboda wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    peaceout_aly wrote: »
    I read that Zevia brand sodas are a good sub for "diet" sodas. Still 0 calories but without the chemicals and supposedly cancer-causing sweeteners. Honestly, your best bet if you're into the whole chemical-avoidance thing is water.

    Sweeteners don't cause cancer. And hell, the only rats that got cancers were feed the equivalent of half their BW in aspartame.

    Not aspartame, it was the original artificial sweetener, saccharine.

    Saccharine started to get a bad rap in the 1970's because of a rat study. It's now been shown that the cancer scare is to rats, not humans. Ref: National Cancer Institute

    Aspartame came to market in the early 1980's. Ref: Cancer.org The controversial rat study for Aspartame was done in 2007. Ref: Aspartame: A safety evaluation...
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited October 2017
    lutzsher wrote: »
    In my quest to not only lose weight but to gain better health they are an item I have deleted, partly because of heart disease rampant in my family so I carefully watch sodium intake and all diet soda contains sodium. I have switched to flavored sparkling waters instead. There are many flavors and lots that are sodium free so it works when I have a craving for something bubbly. As for the alcohol, sadly that is another item I have deleted as I have had previous issues with portion control. Plus I realized that when I drink it seems to stall my weight loss even if it is within my calories that day, something about the alcohol just keeps my body hanging onto that weight so it has just been better for me to give it up to save my sanity each week when I get on the scale.

    Almost all beverages contains sodium. Soda contains sodium at about the same amount as tap water does. Diet soda has slightly more but only slightly, but it has about 10 times less in it than something like milk. I am really not sure where people got in their head that soda is high in sodium, I mean just look at the ingredient label and then look at the ingredient label for other drinks then compare that to the relatively huge amount you'd get from many different foods. You get something like 35mg of sodium from a diet coke but 1440mg from a can of black beans. I mean the RDA for sodium is in the range of 3500 mg per day which is 100 times what you'd get from one diet soda.

    I mean if you are avoiding sodium for medical reasons I suppose it makes sense in that you don't NEED soda and if soda adds to your sodium content sure. That said its a weird thing to specifically avoid given the low content and I am surprised your doctor suggested you avoid it . But don't just assume if you substitute something else for soda (even tap water) that you are really decreasing your sodium intake by that much. It sounds like you personally have done that by seeking out a bubbly water that at least doesn't list sodium in it (hard to believe it doesn't have any though given that it is almost certainly made from tap water) I'm just talking in general. I see the idea that soda has "tons of sodium" bandied about a lot and it really doesn't.

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