Diet Sodas?
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I really have to try Diet A&W. Its highly promoted. So it's either really good or a lot of people work for them,
. Either way, I am down.
Fun fact: I recently got hooked on it by accident. I was so sure I'd hate it. In fact I do not. I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and regular. Maybe the flavors are strong enough to cover up the taste of the sweeteners.1 -
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I miss Mr Pibb.2
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RebeccaHovland wrote: »They are not great for you. Aspartame, the artificial sweetener is really bad for you over time. Definitely do some research on that. As for your diet, they will only satisfy your craving for sugar, not curb it. You will still crave sugar because your body will still register that artificial sweetener as the real deal. I only allow myself to have a diet soda like once a month because its just better to go with unsweetened tea, water, or powerade zero.
Good luck!
Rebecca
I drink diet soda daily and have not craved sugar in well over a year. I would be questioning your beliefs as they are kinda wrong as a blanket statement.2 -
peaceout_aly wrote: »I read that Zevia brand sodas are a good sub for "diet" sodas. Still 0 calories but without the chemicals and supposedly cancer-causing sweeteners. Honestly, your best bet if you're into the whole chemical-avoidance thing is water.
Sweeteners don't cause cancer. And hell, the only rats that got cancers were feed the equivalent of half their BW in aspartame.
Not aspartame, it was the original artificial sweetener, saccharine.0 -
Diet sodas are NOT healthy
But if you have to drink a soft drink, definitely pick them over the regular sodas. At least you'll get far less calories 16 -
If your a soda addict, diet soda is a good temporary remedy although I wouldnt trust it with the ingredients it contains. Sparkling water is a good way to go, especially if your a soda dependent hoping to quit it. May taste like crap at first but it's varied adjustment.16
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shadow2450 wrote: »If your a soda addict, diet soda is a good temporary remedy although I wouldnt trust it with the ingredients it contains. Sparkling water is a good way to go, especially if your a soda dependent hoping to quit it. May taste like crap at first but it's varied adjustment.
So you haven't bothered to read through the thread and the links to the scientific studies showing that there is nothing scary about the ingredients in diet soda?5 -
WinoGelato wrote: »shadow2450 wrote: »If your a soda addict, diet soda is a good temporary remedy although I wouldnt trust it with the ingredients it contains. Sparkling water is a good way to go, especially if your a soda dependent hoping to quit it. May taste like crap at first but it's varied adjustment.
So you haven't bothered to read through the thread and the links to the scientific studies showing that there is nothing scary about the ingredients in diet soda?
That would require reading.1 -
In my quest to not only lose weight but to gain better health they are an item I have deleted, partly because of heart disease rampant in my family so I carefully watch sodium intake and all diet soda contains sodium. I have switched to flavored sparkling waters instead. There are many flavors and lots that are sodium free so it works when I have a craving for something bubbly. As for the alcohol, sadly that is another item I have deleted as I have had previous issues with portion control. Plus I realized that when I drink it seems to stall my weight loss even if it is within my calories that day, something about the alcohol just keeps my body hanging onto that weight so it has just been better for me to give it up to save my sanity each week when I get on the scale.
I guess you didn't take the time to read all the posts ahead of yours where this was covered?? sodium in regular soda and diet soda is barely more than that in water and the same/less than in milk. do you stay away from water and milk because of the sodium as well???1 -
It amazes me that people still argue about this. *sips Diet Coke*2
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@Aaron_K123
"I just wish I'd get an answer when I do that. I'm not asking those questions rhetorically I genuinely want to know how people draw the line between "natural" and "chemical" because the way people use those words it seems completely arbitrary."
If Stevia you buy in a store is "natural" then by the same definition so is aspartame or aspirin. If aspartame or aspirin are not natural because there are processing steps involved (purification or chemical modification) before they arrive on the shelf then Stevia isn't natural either.[/quote]
Most people don't want to hear the real answers. Vilifying things like aspartame or GMOs is easier than doing research, especially when people want to find/create excuses as to why they may be overweight, ill, low energy, underweight, etc. If it isn't da chemicalz, it's their "food allergies." (not legit ones, peeps)
I had a friend who recently went to some clinic to get tested for "inflammatory triggers" or something. They came back saying she's allergic to pretty much everything from meats to fruits and vegetables - and of course, grains. So she points to her mid-section (and she is close to 300 lbs) and says "all this? isn't fat, it's inflammation in my gut." So now she is blaming all foods, processed or otherwise, for her size. Prior to that, her blame was directed more to sweeteners, and carbs.
I don't understand half the terms you sometimes use as I was never strong in chemistry, but I try to look up those terms, read your posts multiple times and learn more from it. Thank you for taking the time to write them out, I for one appreciate it.7 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Diet Dr Pepper is really, really, really great. I wish I could find the decaffeinated version near me. I don't drink the regular version that often because caffeine and I don't get along well these days.1 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »shadow2450 wrote: »If your a soda addict, diet soda is a good temporary remedy although I wouldnt trust it with the ingredients it contains. Sparkling water is a good way to go, especially if your a soda dependent hoping to quit it. May taste like crap at first but it's varied adjustment.
So you haven't bothered to read through the thread and the links to the scientific studies showing that there is nothing scary about the ingredients in diet soda?
That would require reading.
And opening up to the possibility that they might be incorrect.4 -
sparklyglitterbomb wrote: »@Aaron_K123
"I just wish I'd get an answer when I do that. I'm not asking those questions rhetorically I genuinely want to know how people draw the line between "natural" and "chemical" because the way people use those words it seems completely arbitrary."
If Stevia you buy in a store is "natural" then by the same definition so is aspartame or aspirin. If aspartame or aspirin are not natural because there are processing steps involved (purification or chemical modification) before they arrive on the shelf then Stevia isn't natural either.
Most people don't want to hear the real answers. Vilifying things like aspartame or GMOs is easier than doing research, especially when people want to find/create excuses as to why they may be overweight, ill, low energy, underweight, etc. If it isn't da chemicalz, it's their "food allergies." (not legit ones, peeps)
I had a friend who recently went to some clinic to get tested for "inflammatory triggers" or something. They came back saying she's allergic to pretty much everything from meats to fruits and vegetables - and of course, grains. So she points to her mid-section (and she is close to 300 lbs) and says "all this? isn't fat, it's inflammation in my gut." So now she is blaming all foods, processed or otherwise, for her size. Prior to that, her blame was directed more to sweeteners, and carbs.
I don't understand half the terms you sometimes use as I was never strong in chemistry, but I try to look up those terms, read your posts multiple times and learn more from it. Thank you for taking the time to write them out, I for one appreciate it. [/quote]
I failed chemistry on purpose (long story) because I didn't want to take it because it's not my thing. I follow along as best as I can and can understand enough of what Aaron is saying to feel informed enough on the subject (and when in doubt, I look things up as well.)
I also appreciate him taking the time to type everything out and really just wanted to let Aaron know that his efforts are appreciated. For every person who seems to ignore what he's saying, there are more of us who are learning and absorbing.
Don't forget how many people lurk and say nothing!5 -
peaceout_aly wrote: »I read that Zevia brand sodas are a good sub for "diet" sodas. Still 0 calories but without the chemicals and supposedly cancer-causing sweeteners. Honestly, your best bet if you're into the whole chemical-avoidance thing is water.
Sweeteners don't cause cancer. And hell, the only rats that got cancers were feed the equivalent of half their BW in aspartame.
Not aspartame, it was the original artificial sweetener, saccharine.
Saccharine started to get a bad rap in the 1970's because of a rat study. It's now been shown that the cancer scare is to rats, not humans. Ref: National Cancer Institute
Aspartame came to market in the early 1980's. Ref: Cancer.org The controversial rat study for Aspartame was done in 2007. Ref: Aspartame: A safety evaluation...0 -
peaceout_aly wrote: »I read that Zevia brand sodas are a good sub for "diet" sodas. Still 0 calories but without the chemicals and supposedly cancer-causing sweeteners. Honestly, your best bet if you're into the whole chemical-avoidance thing is water.
Sweeteners don't cause cancer. And hell, the only rats that got cancers were feed the equivalent of half their BW in aspartame.
Not aspartame, it was the original artificial sweetener, saccharine.
Saccharine started to get a bad rap in the 1970's because of a rat study. It's now been shown that the cancer scare is to rats, not humans. Ref: National Cancer Institute
Aspartame came to market in the early 1980's. Ref: Cancer.org The controversial rat study for Aspartame was done in 2007. Ref: Aspartame: A safety evaluation...
The reference you cite as the "controvertial study" suggesting harm was a link to a review of the field concluding there is no evidence of harm. I think the study you meant to link to was the 2006 Sofritti study which is the one commonly cited as "evidence" of the harm of aspartame https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16507461. There was another study they produced in 2007 by the same group as well here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805418. In fact if you look up Soffritti almost all of their publications are showing cancer appearing in Sprague-Dawley rats from a lot of different sources. I've gone over this study many times on different threads so don't really want to launch into it again.5 -
In my quest to not only lose weight but to gain better health they are an item I have deleted, partly because of heart disease rampant in my family so I carefully watch sodium intake and all diet soda contains sodium. I have switched to flavored sparkling waters instead. There are many flavors and lots that are sodium free so it works when I have a craving for something bubbly. As for the alcohol, sadly that is another item I have deleted as I have had previous issues with portion control. Plus I realized that when I drink it seems to stall my weight loss even if it is within my calories that day, something about the alcohol just keeps my body hanging onto that weight so it has just been better for me to give it up to save my sanity each week when I get on the scale.
Almost all beverages contains sodium. Soda contains sodium at about the same amount as tap water does. Diet soda has slightly more but only slightly, but it has about 10 times less in it than something like milk. I am really not sure where people got in their head that soda is high in sodium, I mean just look at the ingredient label and then look at the ingredient label for other drinks then compare that to the relatively huge amount you'd get from many different foods. You get something like 35mg of sodium from a diet coke but 1440mg from a can of black beans. I mean the RDA for sodium is in the range of 3500 mg per day which is 100 times what you'd get from one diet soda.
I mean if you are avoiding sodium for medical reasons I suppose it makes sense in that you don't NEED soda and if soda adds to your sodium content sure. That said its a weird thing to specifically avoid given the low content and I am surprised your doctor suggested you avoid it . But don't just assume if you substitute something else for soda (even tap water) that you are really decreasing your sodium intake by that much. It sounds like you personally have done that by seeking out a bubbly water that at least doesn't list sodium in it (hard to believe it doesn't have any though given that it is almost certainly made from tap water) I'm just talking in general. I see the idea that soda has "tons of sodium" bandied about a lot and it really doesn't.3 -
sparklyglitterbomb wrote: »Most people don't want to hear the real answers. Vilifying things like aspartame or GMOs is easier than doing research, especially when people want to find/create excuses as to why they may be overweight, ill, low energy, underweight, etc. If it isn't da chemicalz, it's their "food allergies." (not legit ones, peeps)
I had a friend who recently went to some clinic to get tested for "inflammatory triggers" or something. They came back saying she's allergic to pretty much everything from meats to fruits and vegetables - and of course, grains. So she points to her mid-section (and she is close to 300 lbs) and says "all this? isn't fat, it's inflammation in my gut." So now she is blaming all foods, processed or otherwise, for her size. Prior to that, her blame was directed more to sweeteners, and carbs.
I don't understand half the terms you sometimes use as I was never strong in chemistry, but I try to look up those terms, read your posts multiple times and learn more from it. Thank you for taking the time to write them out, I for one appreciate it.
Thank you, that is heartening to hear. If you ever feel like you'd benefit from me trying to explain something you are interested in in a different way because the jargon was confusing I could definitely try and if you don't want to do so in public can always hit me up with a PM. Cheers.6
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